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If voter ID laws were ever commonplace, we could have some fair elections. Since that is not likely to happen, civil war 2.0 and splitting up the current US into at least 6 independent sovereign territories is the only other option.
Having to show id is racist!

Everyone should have yo dip their thumb in ink like Iraq. And facial screening should be used to detect double voters. Should be a death penalty offense.
 

Aries256

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We have to come out and vote in massive numbers. The dems are against the wall and will use cheating methods like they did in 16 more aggressively. We need numbers to overcome the illegals voting, the dead voting and all the other illegal nonsense the dems will pull (all the while the govnt doing jack shit to stop said voter fraud)
 

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What can we do to insure this happens?
Stop allowing those that suck from the tit to vote. You don't own property, you're not allowed to vote. You drink an drive you don't vote. You do drugs you don't vote. Your credit score is below XXX you don't get to vote.
Anyone that proves they can not control their lives, an is still allowed to vote the direction of this country to me,.... is national Insanity
 

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Grammer...grammar, who cares if I want to remain an ignoramus. i a gude speler, i can spel antidisestablishmentarianism, just dont aske me to spel supercalifrag... :(
 

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Who and what does the counting will be a formidable foe.

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Made much more difficult since while nobody was looking the elections for those that are responsible for certifying and making rulings on vote counts etc. were bought and paid for by those Elites who want to take our freedoms and make sure the Communists win.

The enemies of freedom are expert at playing the long game and finding out where little elections nobody cares about can have big consequences later on. It's too bad the believers in freedom are not nearly as organized and diligent.
 

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Stop allowing those that suck from the tit to vote. You don't own property, you're not allowed to vote. You drink an drive you don't vote. You do drugs you don't vote. Your credit score is below XXX you don't get to vote.
Anyone that proves they can not control their lives, an is still allowed to vote the direction of this country to me,.... is national Insanity
Yeah I was talking about things that can be accomplished.

The above will never be happen as long as women vote
 

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Stop allowing those that suck from the tit to vote. You don't own property, you're not allowed to vote. You drink an drive you don't vote. You do drugs you don't vote. Your credit score is below XXX you don't get to vote.
Anyone that proves they can not control their lives, an is still allowed to vote the direction of this country to me,.... is national Insanity
Well i agree except with the own property bit. Just simply if you’re on welfare, no vote. If youre not a citizen, no vote.
 

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Well i agree except with the own property bit. Just simply if you’re on welfare, no vote. If youre not a citizen, no vote.
At the early on set of this country, you had to own property to be able to vote, but alas we no longer believe in many things that were instilled as a checks an balance system. Much like what we are seeing in many things theses days.

I'm to the point of why don't we just allow our enemy's, to come vote as well, or at least absentee? I need ID to hunt, fish, drive, fly, DR's office, bank ect. However to vote I need nothing but a warm body an ability to show up. I take heart in the fact even in many places, the dead still get to vote,...Nothing like serving up your freedoms an country on a silver platter to those who have shown to be our worst within enemy's, from the get go. The almighty tax dollar buys/pays for it all,... yet we are not free enough to stop the take over are we? A free people my ass,...
 

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At the early on set of this country, you had to own property to be able to vote, but alas we no longer believe in many things that were instilled as a checks an balance system. Much like what we are seeing in many things theses days.

I'm to the point of why don't we just allow our enemy's, to come vote as well, or at least absentee? I need ID to hunt, fish, drive, fly, DR's office, bank ect. However to vote I need nothing but a warm body an ability to show up. I take heart in the fact even in many places, the dead still get to vote,...Nothing like serving up your freedoms an country on a silver platter to those who have shown to be our worst within enemy's, from the get go. The almighty tax dollar buys/pays for it all,... yet we are not free enough to stop the take over are we? A free people my ass,...
Well to enforce the whole need to own property to vote will boot many of us 2nd A, constitutionalists that live in areas where owning property is either not possible, or a losing proposition (ie commifornia) off voting, and raise up things like libtard holloweird.
 

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Well to enforce the whole need to own property to vote will boot many of us 2nd A, constitutionalists that live in areas where owning property is either not possible, or a losing proposition (ie commifornia) off voting, and raise up things like libtard holloweird.
Don’t care. It will be we’ll worth it to get rid of the parasites and blue hive leeches
 
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Well to enforce the whole need to own property to vote will boot many of us 2nd A, constitutionalists that live in areas where owning property is either not possible, or a losing proposition (ie commifornia) off voting, and raise up things like libtard holloweird.
While I understand where your coming from, however I would vote for the property rule in a heart beat, as I am not just a one issue voter. The other thing the property rule had going for it was no one could buy votes with money that the none property owners of the day would trade their souls for, thus insuring the wealthy got their way at the voting booth. If we removed all those I listed prior, this country would revert quickly to what it was intended to be. However when you pay people to be sorry they will never disappoint you an will breed like rabbits to preserve "THEIR" way of life. I don't feel I should be forced to support killing baby's, an a lot of other Bull Shit with my Tax money but if I don't it's jail for a peasant like me. Is that what we call freedom in the land of the free?
 

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Don’t care. It will be we’ll worth it to get rid of the parasites and blue hive leeches
sooo in essence screw my voting rights, just because I dont want to spend 100k$ for a 1br in a shitty neighborhood. Instead of just booting the welfare leeches off the rolls.
 

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Women will vote overwhelmingly for those that they think will take care of them. While I do respect women that have truly made it on their own, they are sadly only at best 5% of the female voting population.
 

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Nationally, if you pay into the tax system, you get a vote. You don't pay, no vote. Year by year.

States get your property taxes, so more appropriate at the state level for land ownership.
 
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The rule that you had to own property to vote was great back in the day, but I think today it wold have unintended consequences and would no longer bring the results one might think longer term.

NO vote if you collect govt assistance AND have no job sounds like a great idea though, but it would never happen.

Voting in the US will forever be corrupt and manipulated, we have the technology to fix it, just not the desire.
 

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The rule that you had to own property to vote was great back in the day, but I think today it wold have unintended consequences and would no longer bring the results one might think longer term.
Please explain why you believe it would. I have found property owners have more compassion for those less fortunate than the other way around. I've found those that have no skin in the game will always vote their wallet for short term goals, vs what is better for their kin after they are gone. You/I see it every day, the founder builds something an when they are gone or at times before , the kids are selling it off to party on, Tomorrow be damned. One of the reasons we are as a nation are where we are today.
The truthful saying,... No pain no gain, is lost on many.
I understand how many feel priced out of the market but that's because they only think within the box, or are but a one trick pony, by choice. I know many who had nothing when they put their nose to the grind stone an have been mortgage free for over 30-60 years. You don't get to that point by partying or keeping up with the Jones's. Life is about choices an to get something you have to give up something, many these days what every thing right now w/o giving up anything.
My Great Uncle made a comment to me when I was 12 that I never understood until I went to the bank the first time. Only a rich man can afford to finance anything.
The last home I built in Fla cost 38K from dirt (including dirt)to turning the lock on the door to move in. It was appraised at 125K the day we moved in. When we moved out the people that bought it inked paper for 30 years at 850.00 a month. I redid the home take off list, an that days dirt price the total came to 47K. For 47K hip National they could have built that same home but they chose the easy way out, aka how much a month?
Thinking out of the box an hard work pays off, but it's easier to say I'm price out of the market. That may be but, what about other markets or have you chained yourself into lock step thinking, of which you hold the key to? Most people belong to what many call the thundering heard, for very good reasons.
 

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Just one correction.
"Less Fortunate". That's a PC, liberal, progressive term. I didn't hit the lottery and it doesn't sound like you have either. Like many of us we worked out asses off either early on getting the grades and education or the blisters and rough skin to be where we are. Less Fortunate goes along with that other bullshit..... "you didn't build that".
The other day a local guy won $150K on a scratch off lottery ticket. $37K to the government right off the bat. Seems like they are the ones that "Didn't build that"

Please explain why you believe it would. I have found property owners have more compassion for those less fortunate than the other way around. I've found those that have no skin in the game will always vote their wallet for short term goals, vs what is better for their kin after they are gone. You/I see it every day, the founder builds something an when they are gone or at times before , the kids are selling it off to party on, Tomorrow be damned. One of the reasons we are as a nation are where we are today.
The truthful saying,... No pain no gain, is lost on many.
I understand how many feel priced out of the market but that's because they only think within the box, or are but a one trick pony, by choice. I know many who had nothing when they put their nose to the grind stone an have been mortgage free for over 30-60 years. You don't get to that point by partying or keeping up with the Jones's. Life is about choices an to get something you have to give up something, many these days what every thing right now w/o giving up anything.
My Great Uncle made a comment to me when I was 12 that I never understood until I went to the bank the first time. Only a rich man can afford to finance anything.
The last home I built in Fla cost 38K from dirt (including dirt)to turning the lock on the door to move in. It was appraised at 125K the day we moved in. When we moved out the people that bought it inked paper for 30 years at 850.00 a month. I redid the home take off list, an that days dirt price the total came to 47K. For 47K hip National they could have built that same home but they chose the easy way out, aka how much a month?
Thinking out of the box an hard work pays off, but it's easier to say I'm price out of the market. That may be but, what about other markets or have you chained yourself into lock step thinking, of which you hold the key to? Most people belong to what many call the thundering heard, for very good reasons.
 

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"Less Fortunate". That's a PC, liberal, progressive term.
I understand that and would agree,...if we were allowed to choose our parents an kin folk.
Many people live in a very small world an have never had, nor took the opportunity to look outside of same. I've was Fortunate in who I was born to an where, an how I grew up. All that said, most people try to skate thru life, but at some point that payment comes due. Some pay for it all their lives , some only pay at the closing days, but regardless payment will be made one way or the other. Other start reaping an saving the benefits early, knowing the road ahead, an toll booths along the way.
 
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That poll was taken after most people listened to the one sided DEM argument. I am sure most open minded folks will think differently after the Presidents team presents their rebuttal to Schiff and Nadler's lies.
 

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That poll was taken after most people listened to the one sided DEM argument. I am sure most open minded folks will think differently after the Presidents team presents their rebuttal to Schiff and Nadler's lies.
I think you overestimate the intelligence of your fellow Americans.

How many people realize today that what the Dems allege, even if they could prove it, does not qualify as crimes that would justify impeachment according to the law, i.e the Constitution.

An analogy to this kangaroo court in Washinton would be you or me being accused in court of 'micro-aggression' and 'not pleading guilty'. Today, that would be thrown out of court because neither one is a crime - yet. After November, that could become the new 'normal' for everyone of us. If you don't agree with the progressive agenda, then you are a criminal.(period)

AOC: "Being Morally Right Is More Important Than Being Factually Correct".

How is Trump going to win against the Left's propaganda machine, formerly known as the press, and a multi-billionaire who can and WILL outspend him by a factor of at least 5 with ads? When over half of the voters are already idiots as demonstrated in 2016.

Once the Left controls all branches of the federal government, the same will happen as you see in VA. The opposition will demonstrate peacefully for their rights, clean up their trash, and then bend over. Unlike the 'greatest generation', our generation will be remembered as the wimps who surrendered peacefully to the enemies of freedom and ushered in the end of this great country.

Hoping for some basement commandos saving the day at the eleventh hour because King Bloomturd comes for their ARs is a fools errand as you see in VA. They don't even have the balls for unarmed civil disobedience like you see in other countries.

The only thing we can do, after being asleep on the wheel for 30+ years, is to drag everyone we know to the voting booth's in November and tell everyone of these folks to drag another two off their couches. And pray to God.

If that does not do it, we deserve what will come our way. Being a conservative in the new progressive socialist america (not capitalized on purpose) will be like the fate of the two missionaries who got caught by primitives:

 
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