Looks like they are continuing with the same lineup... haven’t seen a thread confirming this yet.... I was googling bae oasys and came upon the new trijicon oasys website.
So let me get this right... if I were to purchase a UTC second hand even with release papers and it took a shit... well it would be a paper weight? I thought the release papers meant not only is it a legal unit that was sold legitamitely, but that if something broke it would be worked on...I clicked around on everything I could on that site, but don't see any pricing yet.
At SHOT we heard "2 months" for the SKEET ... and that was all. So maybe, by 1 April, we will hear more. But I wouldn't count on it.
Also, 4 of the six products have high power laser pointers ... the SKEET, the UTM, the UTB and the UTB LRF, so they will either have to down grade the laser pointers to low power or remove them, in order to sell them to civilians. Only the UTC (x and xii) are laser-pointer-less ... and hence can be sold as is. So we will have to see how this unravels as well.
The 1 year warranty, is better than nothing. And the ability to pay to get the units repaired even after the 1 year, is better than what BAE OASYS owners have now.
And I'm curious if one day, they will repair (for a price) existing BAE OASYS units. Hoping they will. At least the ones for people who "have papers".
Well that was true 22 months ago when I bought my UTC-x ... but then 5 months later it was no longer true, when BAE "shut down the program". The people who knew how to work on them were no longer doing that. The supply chain was shut down, etc. No body home !... So let me get this right... if I were to purchase a UTC second hand even with release papers and it took a shit... well it would be a paper weight? I thought the release papers meant not only is it a legal unit that was sold legitamitely, but that if something broke it would be worked on...
Looks like I'll be waiting on a trijicon UTCX.... cause I'll be damned if I spend over 10 grand on something and cant get any support if it has a problem down the line. Now how to fund another 10-15 for the X... 10k to 25k is a big jumpWell that was true 22 months ago when I bought my UTC-x ... but then 5 months later it was no longer true, when BAE "shut down the program". The people who knew how to work on them were no longer doing that. The supply chain was shut down, etc. No body home !
There are people who can do this and that ... so depending on the problem there is some help ... but as of right now, if you were to drive your spear thru one of the lenses .. you are hosed. As an example.
Do you have a pic ?... So will Larue now sell the mount for the UTC that fits the UTM? ...
If they can downgrade some of the parts ... i.e. substitute lower cost parts ... they might be able to get the price down some ... my hope is around $15k ... but until they publish the new prices, we have no idea.... what will the Utc sell for ? ...
My UTMx is very repeatable in a clip on role. As a stand alone it is not. Honestly IMHO anything above 6x is pushing it with that class of optics. It shines 1-4x. The laser on the optic is really a moot point because unless they release the Larue mount or something similar you will not maintain zero with the laser and wilcox mount. The laser would better serve to walk someone with NODs onto a target you spotted with the thermal.Wig, not trying to derail the thread but as far as the skeetir s go would they be a good candidate for a sub 200yard clip on in front of a nxs 1-8 let’s say? Atleast where space is an issue in mounting a full sized clip on?
Here’s my train of thought... for the cost of one utcX which is essentially a dream as I have no need for the power or range ( I shoot custom airguns after all) ( hardly if ever see myself taking shots beyond 200 on an animal) I can buy a NV clip on of my choice for long range night shooting( on steel) , a thermal monocular for scanning / target ID, (l3 mtm a320) as well as a used skeet Ir or UTM for a clip on role in front of a short carbine length .457 air rifle I am building over the summer that will be shooting 265gr bullets. That puts me at 2 fully built and night time ready rifles & a dedicated monocular as well. I guess it’s all perspective. For the past couple years I’ve wanted & worked towards the best of the best. I.e. a Hensoldt for example. Not truly capitalizing on the fact that a Hensoldt only has 14mils of elevation and I need a scope with 30mils just to reach 500yards with my current setup. I believe it was with you that I had a conversation via PM’s about what these air rifles were capable of, I said I’d have no problem shooting out to 400 or so on game. Now I realize that’s not a reality, while the accuracy is there. (I have acquaintances that shoot sub 2inch groups at 400 with the same custom platform I have) it just wouldn’t be humane if for any reason shot placement was off, as the knockdown power or “shock” isn’t the same as a supersonic round. Which brings me back around to my question, within 200 yards, what will do the job and keep the rifle somewhat small / light.
I'm not so sure. the drop is pretty intense due to the low speed of the airguns. I'll be shooting these. They just released as the newest and best flying projectiles for long range in the .45 class . The rifle will be bone stock for this season as far as power goes and I'm looking at 800 fps. I dont wanna send it to my Smith and miss half the season like last years build. Next year I should be able to push these at 950 or so... which means I'm packing quite a punch.Dedicated thermal could still be an option...
I just started playing with the pulsar xp50 but it has three different zero profiles. Each of which consists of like 10 additional drop points. So you could just say have a 50 yard zero and nine more reference points from there out. They also have a "mildot" reticle m56fi I think it was that functions as a FFP mildot when you zoom. So you could simple have ten "zeros" at five or ten mil increments.
And yes the "tech" I spoke with at pulsar is full of bull scat about the mount being ok and it's meant to be where you can move it by hand so you can "line it up"
The SNIPE will work like a thermal clipon ... it IS a thermal clipon ... you can use your day scope reticle .. BUT you will be limited to about 7x of magnification ... I ran it on 8x ... but it was getting a little fuzzy ...... if the snipe Ir will work like a night vision clip on ...