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Won’t get to shoot it until it gets delivered but I got to visit Q and build my 6.5 Fix yesterday. Awesome experience. I would encourage everyone to make the trip if possible. I wanted to take pics (and they offered to do so) but I was having so much fun I forgot to take some. Spent a total of 21 hours over a 36hr period on the road and it was worth every minute.

They also went above and beyond to fix an issue caused by my personal preference (Surefire brake instead of theirs due to me not having a Q Suppressor YET). They had no obligation but insisted on making it work despite the threads on my brake being bad and ruining the threads on their barrel.

Can’t wait until the rifle comes in to shoot. Awesome experience, awesome gun but even better we’re the people I met.
That is so cool. Waiting for my trip there when the 8.6 Fix pistol comes out next year. I am willing to book a spot now if could. I don’t have instagram so I keep checking their site. I would almost buy a 6.5 creedmoor barrel now so can swap out later
Glad you had the opportunity to build your gun.
 
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I'm pretty sure that no one will have any direct experience, but hopefully someone here may have some insight into how a 280 Rem AI would work in the Fix? Looking for a bit more punch than the 6.5 or .308 in the short action standard bolt face. Application is mostly for hunting.

Not sure how recoil, feeding etc. may be. Or if its is a dumb question please let me know. I realize that barrels for these things are hard to find, but I think if a guy sends a barrel to Q they will add the extension for a fee. Likely the only way to get barrel like this. May be cost prohibitive, but just checking into options. Any insight would be appreciated.
You could look at the 7SAW, it looks interesting.

 
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I forgot to re-torque some screws after my scope sat on the shelf for about a month... you thought you were some kind of damn genius and spun a spring around a few times claiming it lightened the bolt lift (we obviously know how that turned out)... but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and call it a wash. Maybe there are a lot of rifles that don't have any issues whatsoever and thats awesome. There are people I know personally here on this thread and they have a different opinion than I do and thats great but I do think that there are issues that people need to consider before buying this rifle. If you are someone with extra money to spend, buy one... its a cool rifle, but if a 3k rifle is something you are going to have to save for and it might be your only buy for awhile or you are going to have to hear about it from your wife for the next year, I would seriously look around before jumping on the whole Fix bandwagon. Maybe the 6.5s are better, maybe the proofs are better, idk, i don't care, in my experience this is an overhyped sub par rifle. And when people had issues KB/Q just seemed to want to deflect and be a complete bitch about it, so until they show some initiative and make sure that no one has a similar experience (to me and several other people y'all have tried to run off), I'm going to continue to come here, be an asshole, and remind everyone how much I dislike this rifle and this company and why. I will give KB credit for listening to the complaints about barrel availability. "🤙"
Woah, keyboard warrior. Lookout 😯😯 - I’m not going to go back and forth with you because it’s literally a waste of my life. But, yeah. I had an absolutely awesome experience with Q/Nick/KB/their customer service and everything about the rifle, thus far. So, every time you feel the need to piss and moan about something in your life and why this rifle shit in your Cheerios, I’ll post right after and let everyone know how dope mine is :)

Side note - that bolt moa is complex as shit, not just torquing down some rings ;) 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼 Thanks for the laughs, homie.
 

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Beginner here, and I just wanted my first rifle really bad so I jumped on the chance to grab a Fix in 6.5 creedmoor even though I was originally planning on waiting for an SRS-A2 with a 223 conversion. It has been over 20 years since I shot any kind of rifle and I really struggled to feel comfortable, and even the 6.5 creedmoor beat me up a little bit between my shoulder and jaw bone. I guess I am just sensitive to recoil and that may take a while to sort out.

Anyway, my LGS dealer (JT guns in Des Moines) installed an EOTech Vudu 5-25x50 and sighted it in for me. A week later I made it out to the range and here are my first 9 shots at 100 yds, then I was done for the afternoon... I was expecting much worse given my skill level so it felt good to walk up and see this target after having the rifle jump around on me with each shot.7080625
 

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This thread has been a great read took me a good while lot to digest. Can't wait to get my Fix! Buddy just got his last week he is flippin over the moon. There is not a thing I'd change out of the box it's everything I want.
 

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Just want to add that I live my rifle, and Q has been just fine to work with. I go shooting with a buddy who is a heavy custom rifle PRS type shooter. The fix hangs. Then when my buddy breaks out his lighter hunting rifle, the fix still hangs. If you want an all around great rifle, this is it. If you want the best PRS gun, go buy something else. But then again, I’m going to do my best to add more weight to mine and see how it does. That’s the best pet about this rifle, make it how you want it.
 

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Just want to add that I live my rifle, and Q has been just fine to work with. I go shooting with a buddy who is a heavy custom rifle PRS type shooter. The fix hangs. Then when my buddy breaks out his lighter hunting rifle, the fix still hangs. If you want an all around great rifle, this is it. If you want the best PRS gun, go buy something else. But then again, I’m going to do my best to add more weight to mine and see how it does. That’s the best pet about this rifle, make it how you want it.
10000% this - I think with the bolt knob and like a raz HD on top, or something heavy, it could hang with the PRS boys. The addition of a bolt knob is going to be a game changer for running the bolt with the fix.
 

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Just want to add that I live my rifle, and Q has been just fine to work with. I go shooting with a buddy who is a heavy custom rifle PRS type shooter. The fix hangs. Then when my buddy breaks out his lighter hunting rifle, the fix still hangs. If you want an all around great rifle, this is it. If you want the best PRS gun, go buy something else. But then again, I’m going to do my best to add more weight to mine and see how it does. That’s the best pet about this rifle, make it how you want it.

I agree with everything but the adding weight part. Certainly your choice, but for me the low weight and compactness while folded is its greatest attraction to me. I’ve owned a pile of customs, and this thing is just plain interesting to me. I really enjoy it.


Mine has a heavy 22” 6.5 cm barrel. As soon as my sendero lite proof blank gets here, it’ll be a 16.5” 6.5 Lapua.
 

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Just want to add that I live my rifle, and Q has been just fine to work with. I go shooting with a buddy who is a heavy custom rifle PRS type shooter. The fix hangs. Then when my buddy breaks out his lighter hunting rifle, the fix still hangs. If you want an all around great rifle, this is it. If you want the best PRS gun, go buy something else. But then again, I’m going to do my best to add more weight to mine and see how it does. That’s the best pet about this rifle, make it how you want it.
That was the idea...
 

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Question: Would it make sense to convert my Fix from 6.5 creedmoor to 300 BLK, or would it be much smarter to just wait for the Mini Fix and then sell my Fix to fund the next purchase? I am convinced that I would be happier with a more mild cartridge in general, would have a lot of fun with subsonic and a suppressor, and will end up shooting 100-500 yards the vast majority of the time anyways. Any advice?
 

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Question: Would it make sense to convert my Fix from 6.5 creedmoor to 300 BLK, or would it be much smarter to just wait for the Mini Fix and then sell my Fix to fund the next purchase? I am convinced that I would be happier with a more mild cartridge in general, would have a lot of fun with subsonic and a suppressor, and will end up shooting 100-500 yards the vast majority of the time anyways. Any advice?
Have both!
 

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Question: Would it make sense to convert my Fix from 6.5 creedmoor to 300 BLK, or would it be much smarter to just wait for the Mini Fix and then sell my Fix to fund the next purchase? I am convinced that I would be happier with a more mild cartridge in general, would have a lot of fun with subsonic and a suppressor, and will end up shooting 100-500 yards the vast majority of the time anyways. Any advice?
Probably make more sense buying a 308 barrel and running 308 sub Sonics through it. Same-ish energy as 300 blackout
 

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Thanks for the response... I can only afford to have one really nice rifle and scope, but I have the same question into Q customer service so we shall see what they come up with. 308 sub is viable, but there are three downsides to that path: 1) factory ammo is significantly more than 300 BLK in most cases, 2) many more options and optimized cartridges to be found in the very healthy 300 BLK market, 3) The supersonic option in 300 BLK is just the kind of mild, low recoil caliber I am looking for as 6.5 creedmoor is a little too stout for me and 308 would be a little worse rather than better. Will be interesting to see exactly whre the Mini Fix and the Fix are different in terms of parts/components. But even if this costs me a bit of extra coin to finally get right, I am glad I have the Fix in hand right now as I will still enjoy shooting it while I wait for either the Mini Fix or a conversion opportunity.
 
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Thanks for the response... I can only afford to have one really nice rifle and scope, but I have the same question into Q customer service so we shall see what they come up with. 308 sub is viable, but there are three downsides to that path: 1) factory ammo is significantly more than 300 BLK in most cases, 2) many more options and optimized cartridges to be found in the very healthy 300 BLK market, 3) The supersonic option in 300 BLK is just the kind of mild, low recoil caliber I am looking for as 6.5 creedmoor is a little too stout for me and 308 would be a little worse rather than better. Will be interesting to see exactly whre the Mini Fix and the Fix are different in terms of parts/components. But even if this costs me a bit of extra coin to finally get right, I am glad I have the Fix in hand right now as I will still enjoy shooting it while I wait for either the Mini Fix or a conversion opportunity.
I doubt there will be a conversion to .300BO for the Fix, different actions. The MiniFix is built around AR-15 mags and is available to pre-order/order now in .224 Valkyrie and could be easily changed to .300BO.
 
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So I’m back from home from my weekend class with @Lowlight up here in Alaska, and man was it a blast. I took my Fix with me equipped with the Proof 6.5 barrel shooting Hornady 147s. That was my first time shooting beyond 500 yards and it was pretty exciting. Unfortunately I was having too much fun and didn’t take too many pictures. I did not realize how bad my fundamentals were until I had Marc and Frank yelling in my ear what I was doing wrong.
I shot a 1moa 5 shot group at 100yards the first day for my eval, and at the end of day two I would of shot a .25moa group, but got excited on shot four and pulled a flier. So much for concentrating on my fundamentals.
Now that I’m home, I need to hit the range and make sure I haven’t forgotten everything. And I’ll make sure to take pictures of my groups this time.
The rifle performed flawlessly, and didn’t have a single issue. If anyone has any doubts on how the rifle shoots, I’d recommend taking a class from Frank.

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Photo credit of my rifle goes to @JT505
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Side note, it was pretty awesome watching Frank grab my gun, dial on my dope to 1000, and go 3 for 3.
 

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So I’m back from home from my weekend class with @Lowlight up here in Alaska, and man was it a blast. I took my Fix with me equipped with the Proof 6.5 barrel shooting Hornady 147s. That was my first time shooting beyond 500 yards and it was pretty exciting. Unfortunately I was having too much fun and didn’t take too many pictures. I did not realize how bad my fundamentals were until I had Marc and Frank yelling in my ear what I was doing wrong.
I shot a 1moa 5 shot group at 100yards the first day for my eval, and at the end of day two I would of shot a .25moa group, but got excited on shot four and pulled a flier. So much for concentrating on my fundamentals.
Now that I’m home, I need to hit the range and make sure I haven’t forgotten everything. And I’ll make sure to take pictures of my groups this time.
The rifle performed flawlessly, and didn’t have a single issue. If anyone has any doubts on how the rifle shoots, I’d recommend taking a class from Frank.



Photo credit of my rifle goes to @JT505



Side note, it was pretty awesome watching Frank grab my gun, dial on my dope to 1000, and go 3 for 3.
Haha, that's awesome! Well done!
 

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I saw an image of the mini-fix in 300 blk, but there doesnt seem to be any info on their site (and i cant get on the social media since i was blocked by Kevin)
Does the Fix match the HB w/ a 7" 1-5 twist 300 blk?
What is the reasoning for the incredibly fast twist?
 
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I saw an image of the mini-fix in 300 blk, but there doesnt seem to be any info on their site (and i cant get on the social media since i was blocked by Kevin)
Does the Fix match the HB w/ a 7" 1-5 twist 300 blk?
What is the reasoning for the incredibly fast twist?
Most likely will be 1:5 twist. It’s for stabilizing heavy subsonic bullets.
 

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I saw an image of the mini-fix in 300 blk, but there doesnt seem to be any info on their site (and i cant get on the social media since i was blocked by Kevin)
Does the Fix match the HB w/ a 7" 1-5 twist 300 blk?
What is the reasoning for the incredibly fast twist?
The stat I saw on the gram was a 8” barrel, probably a 1-5 twist I’m guessing since it wasn’t listed.
Kit Badger has a few posts on Instagram and did a video series about it.
 
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That is beautiful where abouts in AK? Like you I've been stuck at 550 yards can't wait to start the learning! Love the Fix that's on my radar downstream. Have done a ton of fishing out of Bristol Bay Lodge.....Togiak is freaking amazing
The class is held in Talkeetna, about a 2hr drive north of Anchorage. Everyone stays at the Sheep Creek Lodge, which has some wonderful staff and a well stocked bar, at least it was well stocked before the classes started😂.
I live a little farther south in Kodiak.
 

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I mean that, accuracy, and the projectile expands fast and better due the rpm. That’s all I can think of
I am sorry, I am still new to this. Can you clarify this? "the projectile expands fast and better due to the rpm"?

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I am sorry, I am still new to this. Can you clarify this? "the projectile expands fast and better due to the rpm"?

Ephram
Prarie dog shooters have long noted this, faster twist and the bullets make a bigger spray/more aerobatic display out of the prairie dogs than a slower, gentler twist.
How much difference it will make in a subsonic 30 cal? I suspect not much... but maybe that little extra twist will actually be enough for a subsonic to actually expand for once? Doubt it though.
 

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Prarie dog shooters have long noted this, faster twist and the bullets make a bigger spray/more aerobatic display out of the prairie dogs than a slower, gentler twist.
How much difference it will make in a subsonic 30 cal? I suspect not much... but maybe that little extra twist will actually be enough for a subsonic to actually expand for once? Doubt it though.

KB has talked about this quite a bit in his podcast, and basically its about expansion and more revs turned inside the target. He said the 12” 8.6 Creed barrels may be as fast as 1 in 3 with a 300 plus grain bullet.
 

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For you guys running 16" 6.5's how far have you stretched it out? I had never considered anything but 22-24" in a 6.5, but ran some ballistics on various factory loads which shows you can still reach out to ~ 1,100ish(I took some assumptions on MV from the Rifleshooter article on shorterning 6.5 barrel lengths. ~ 2500 with 16").
 

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For you guys running 16" 6.5's how far have you stretched it out? I had never considered anything but 22-24" in a 6.5, but ran some ballistics on various factory loads which shows you can still reach out to ~ 1,100ish(I took some assumptions on MV from the Rifleshooter article on shorterning 6.5 barrel lengths. ~ 2500 with 16").
I’m very interested to see results.

Will 120’s be worth the initial velocity?

I have a 20” bartlein and a 24” proof carbon barrel.

If I see good results the 20” will definitely get chopped.

The handling of the 16” .308 bartlein is something else.

However with my current stock I want a 6mm barrel. Either 6XC or a 6mmbr
 
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I’m very interested to see results.

Will 120’s be worth the initial velocity?

I have a 20” bartlein and a 24” proof carbon barrel.

If I see good results the 20” will definitely get chopped.

The handling of the 16” .308 bartlein is something else.

However with my current stock I want a 6mm barrel. Either 6XC or a 6mmbr
I run a Q Thunder Chicken and have wondered if there might be any MV I pick up with that on a 16". That's a question that's always bugged me if I'm wasting powder burn in a shorter barrel does my can potentially pick some of that up? Anywho....if I can reach 1,000 with a 16" I'm probably gonna be pretty happy with that the more I think about it.
 

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I run a Q Thunder Chicken and have wondered if there might be any MV I pick up with that on a 16". That's a question that's always bugged me if I'm wasting powder burn in a shorter barrel does my can potentially pick some of that up? Anywho....if I can reach 1,000 with a 16" I'm probably gonna be pretty happy with that the more I think about it.

There is no reason whatsoever why you can’t reach 1k with a 16” 6.5 creed. You'll still be spanking the average 308 in drift. I wouldn’t bank on any additional velocity with the suppressor. Whatever it does, it will be marginal.
 
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There is no reason whatsoever why you can’t reach 1k with a 16” 6.5 creed. You'll still be spanking the average 308 in drift. I wouldn’t bank on any additional velocity with the suppressor. Whatever it does, it will be marginal.
Great thanks man
 

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For you guys running 16" 6.5's how far have you stretched it out? I had never considered anything but 22-24" in a 6.5, but ran some ballistics on various factory loads which shows you can still reach out to ~ 1,100ish(I took some assumptions on MV from the Rifleshooter article on shorterning 6.5 barrel lengths. ~ 2500 with 16").
Ive killed big game animals out to 800yrds with my shorty creedmore. You wont have issues, my shorty grendel makes it to 1k
 

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I saw an image of the mini-fix in 300 blk, but there doesnt seem to be any info on their site (and i cant get on the social media since i was blocked by Kevin)
Does the Fix match the HB w/ a 7" 1-5 twist 300 blk?
What is the reasoning for the incredibly fast twist?
Wonder why you were blocked?

8" 1:5
Stabilizes heavy subs, more accurate, better consistency and terminal performance from higher rpm.
 

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Prarie dog shooters have long noted this, faster twist and the bullets make a bigger spray/more aerobatic display out of the prairie dogs than a slower, gentler twist.
How much difference it will make in a subsonic 30 cal? I suspect not much... but maybe that little extra twist will actually be enough for a subsonic to actually expand for once? Doubt it though.
It works. Consistently.
 

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KB has talked about this quite a bit in his podcast, and basically its about expansion and more revs turned inside the target. He said the 12” 8.6 Creed barrels may be as fast as 1 in 3 with a 300 plus grain bullet.
We are testing down to 1:1. RPM is part of the energy on target equation.
 

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For you guys running 16" 6.5's how far have you stretched it out? I had never considered anything but 22-24" in a 6.5, but ran some ballistics on various factory loads which shows you can still reach out to ~ 1,100ish(I took some assumptions on MV from the Rifleshooter article on shorterning 6.5 barrel lengths. ~ 2500 with 16").
Short 6.5CM barrels (~10") are are still supersonic at 1,000 yards. The 143eldx expands to 600yards out of the 16" barrel. I've shot deer at over 500 yards with it.
 

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I run a Q Thunder Chicken and have wondered if there might be any MV I pick up with that on a 16". That's a question that's always bugged me if I'm wasting powder burn in a shorter barrel does my can potentially pick some of that up? Anywho....if I can reach 1,000 with a 16" I'm probably gonna be pretty happy with that the more I think about it.
Can definitely reach 1,000 yards with 16". Silencers will provide only a slight velocity increase, likely similar to your SD's.
 
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Wonder why you were blocked?

8" 1:5
Stabilizes heavy subs, more accurate, better consistency and terminal performance from higher rpm.
We covered this a few weeks back, but I was the one questioning how you tested to find the 8.6 to be quieter than a 22lr sub, but we already hashed that out on here.

thanks for answering my question. Did you test anything faster, or did you just keep going faster until you were happy? At what legnth would you say a 1-7 will stabilize the 230s to your satisfaction? Not that theres much reason to in a platform like this, but how would supers perform in the 8" 1-5"?
 
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We covered this a few weeks back, but I was the one questioning how you tested to find the 8.6 to be quieter than a 22lr sub, but we already hashed that out on here.

thanks for answering my question. Did you test anything faster, or did you just keep going faster until you were happy? At what legnth would you say a 1-7 will stabilize the 230s to your satisfaction? Not that theres much reason to in a platform like this, but how would supers perform in the 8" 1-5"?
You are welcome.

We always test to destruction or failure. The problem going faster than 1:5 in 300blk is that the, at the time, .mil selected sub barrier blind ammo would expanded upon muzzle exit.

I'm comfortable with 16" 1:7 for 230gr subs.

Supers are better spinning faster, for energy on target.
 

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I know all the rage is a compact pistol config, but will you be offering the Mini Fix in 300 BLK with a 16 inch barrel and the regular adjustable rifle buttstock?