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That with the current shit show in DC, that they will get past the tip of the iceberg and look at... Fast and Furious (Holder), The Klinten Crime Foundation, the Uranium Deal with Russia, the Pallets of money shipped overseas, The alphabet agencies corruption,...

Aw hell I want to be optopistic, but the Swamp is deep. We likely only have tidbits of info on how bad the corruption is.... and the Tyranny that has and is occurring.
 

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I honestly believe the best chance we'll ever have in our lifetimes to see just how deep these POS can go to is TRUMP 2020. Nobody else is going to uncover the corruption. It's too deep. If President Trump gets reelected, I want him to go for broke. Pull the sheets back? Nah. Tear the bed apart. They deserve nothing less than to be completely exposed. ALL of them. We deserve, and have the right to know, EXACTLY who's zooming who and for what. Yep, we'll see.....
 

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And yet...nothing will happen.
 

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I would hope that Trump's second term will open the doors to those investigations, but I'd be lying to you if I thought it would actually happen.
 

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IF "WE THE PEOPLE", don't get POTUS re-elected for another term, it will go back to "status quo" in .gov.. That's why the D's didn't want Bernie in there, they wanted Hilldabeast, so the Machine could keep chuggin along. Trump F'd up their system. All I know is, the Rep. better start grooming Trump's replacement NOW. IF another D gets in, we're F'd! Mac :rolleyes:
 

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Trump can't do it alone.
We need to get a dozen or more Trumpsters to be elected in the House and a few more in the Senate. A super majority in the Senate and a clear majority in the House would go a long way to fixing the country's problems.
 

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I want to see the sheets pulled back. But for goodness sake I don't want to see Hillary naked. Too much trauma.
 
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My concern is 2024. I think, barring any craziness, Trump gets re-elected easily in 2020. I'm glad. But the pessimist in me fears a return to the status quo of screwing us over and having a POS RINO or Dem in 2024.
There are far, far more RINOs than there are outsiders. In 2024, we've got much better chances of getting another Romney than we do another Trump. And every dedicated conservative will hold their nose and vote for that candidate, which is why the party will generally continue getting away with nominating that type of shithead.
 
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Rudy G is carpet bombing the Bidens and Obama on Fox this morning. Looks like the bomb throwing has begun!!!
Eh, he needs to show some proof or STFU. Either Rudy is blowing smoke, or his opposition has as much dirt on him than he has on the Bidens (and for the record, I firmly believe it's the latter since the Bidens are as dirty as it gets).
 
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Eh, he needs to show some proof or STFU. Either Rudy is blowing smoke, or his opposition has as much dirt on him than he has on the Bidens (and for the record, I firmly believe it's the latter since the Bidens are as dirty as it gets).
I think he said he'd be presenting it today at noon.
 
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I think he said he'd be presenting it today at noon.
I will be waiting anxiously, but will not be holding my breath (well, unless someone rips a nasty one in the lunch room).

It wasn't long all that Rudy was just another party insider. I want to believe he's going to rip the lid off this mess, but I gotta see something more than just a bunch of vague accusations and some general scolding of the media for not taking him more seriously.
 
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Obama still has executive privilege on everything in his 8 years, so no you won't get any more info on much of this especially F&F or the pallets of cash. I would sure like to know how much of the cash was kick backed to O, Kerry, Biden, ...

I guess you could challenge his privilege in court, but what R's have the balls to do that?


That with the current shit show in DC, that they will get past the tip of the iceberg and look at... Fast and Furious (Holder), The Klinten Crime Foundation, the Uranium Deal with Russia, the Pallets of money shipped overseas, The alphabet agencies corruption,...

Aw hell I want to be optopistic, but the Swamp is deep. We likely only have tidbits of info on how bad the corruption is.... and the Tyranny that has and is occurring.
 
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Hahaha. This glimmer of hope you feel is designed. It has utility. If Trump isn’t deep state he’s being manipulated and used by them.
Research the missing thirteenth amendment and executive order 11110 and tell me you think there’s hope.
 
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We should not think for a second that the dems are not running their plays exactly as they want. My guess is their wish is too drag this impeachment out as long as possible to try and influence the 2020 election. Then factor in how the dems are already trying to manipulate the elections (CA where you can vote by canvassing workers, or look at VA results) every single one of us must remain vigilant and continue working for our rights.

(Side note, my typo put "Tights" on that last sentence... that woulda changed to entire thought)
 

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I'm sure the evidence of corruption will come out, but the courts are just as deep, the agencies investigating are stacked with party loyalist, and we the people are to comfortable to risk our exorbitant lifestyles to push for action, little own to take action.

This isn't all of us, but even with things as they are the vast majority of Americans are still unwilling to speak up as they feel their words fall on deaf ears.
 

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This is all to assure Biden is the candidate... and the Ukraine goes a lot deeper than whats been release so far and encompasses many.
ukraine aid disappearing and money laundering into the US is billions of dollars.
only a tiny fraction went to hunter, but millions went in all directions.
shortly after obama nearly doubled aid, ukraine donated millions to the clinton foundation.
 

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I wish I could believe we will "vote" our way out of the current mess. The Republic is owned and operated by a global Oligarchy and it matters not how you vote, both of your choices work for that same Oligarchy.

I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this — who will count the votes, and how. attributed to Stalin

I see this Republic in steep decline and nothing to be done about it as it has gone too far. I don't see it getting fixed let alone fixed in the coming election.

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The general public are just stupid sheep, not realizing Trump is financially helping them (teach a man to fish) and dems are already giving up their soul to satan over abortion /lgbt bs. I wish i had more faith but am a realist.
 

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I think he said he'd be presenting it today at noon.
Well, did Rudy present anything today? Or is he going to hold onto his bombshell evidence until it's really time to deploy it?

Rudy might be the guy to dig up dirt on the Bidens, as I suspect he has first-hand experience in this sort of entanglement with foreign governments and businesses. It's gonna take someone who is much cleaner to make the public case, though.
 
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Dem nuts are surely scared out of their minds of an even more popular, second term, Trump.

Looking forward to the squirm!

I was on business in Chicago on election night 2016. Believe it or not, not all of them were whaling and nashing teeth.
 
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I agree the chance is there but it will be a rough road
 

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I do believe that President Trump will go Spider Monkey crazy on the swamp during his last 12-18 months in office. If it helps his cause (a real republican being elected), I think he'd do just about anything to expose members of the swamp.
 
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Trump could run repeatedly as Vice President, no term limits on Vice President. Imagine the heads that would explode if he continued his path but as Vice President.
 

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I think it is one of the reasons the Dems / deepstate want us disarmed so bad they are scared of the boiling point when the public has finally had enough and grabs their pitchforks/AR15s. I think VA is a litmus test to test the waters on just how much they can get away with.
 

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I think it is one of the reasons the Dems / deepstate want us disarmed so bad they are scared of the boiling point when the public has finally had enough and grabs their pitchforks/AR15s. I think VA is a litmus test to test the waters on just how much they can get away with.
I don't think VA is even a litmus test to see what they can get away with, I think it is a means to an end. We are seeing gun control legislation all across the south east and I believe they picked the south east because we are the most willing to resist. Anti gun legislation is going to get passed across the south east, like in VA, then they will start selectively enforcing it trying to get the reaction they want then the media will use it as proof that they were right. They will use those who resist violently as an excuse to have the UN step in to help our government disarm Americans under the guise of conducting peacekeeping operations here.
Here is a UN job listing for for a disarmament officer.

I believe we have about a year before things really start to heat up. After those elected take office in this next election we will see widespread anti gun legislation. The political machine trying to disarm, and enslave, us will use voter fraud, voting machine tampering and criminal activity to ensure there is a widespread blue wave this next election. They have been perfecting it since Obama got elected. I believe this is why they are so upset at Trump, they believed they had done enough to ensure Hillary would win. The next election they will go far beyond what they think they will need to ensure a victory.

States are posturing by passing laws nullifying the electoral college as well as giving their electoral college points to the popular vote winner. If their candidate wins the popular vote but not electoral college they will protest. If their candidate wins the electoral college but not the popular vote they will abide by the electoral college win. Some states have said Trump will not be on their state ballot and by the time it is proven illegal their candidate will be in office already.
 

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I don't think VA is even a litmus test to see what they can get away with, I think it is a means to an end. We are seeing gun control legislation all across the south east and I believe they picked the south east because we are the most willing to resist. Anti gun legislation is going to get passed across the south east, like in VA, then they will start selectively enforcing it trying to get the reaction they want then the media will use it as proof that they were right. They will use those who resist violently as an excuse to have the UN step in to help our government disarm Americans under the guise of conducting peacekeeping operations here.
Here is a UN job listing for for a disarmament officer.

I believe we have about a year before things really start to heat up. After those elected take office in this next election we will see widespread anti gun legislation. The political machine trying to disarm, and enslave, us will use voter fraud, voting machine tampering and criminal activity to ensure there is a widespread blue wave this next election. They have been perfecting it since Obama got elected. I believe this is why they are so upset at Trump, they believed they had done enough to ensure Hillary would win. The next election they will go far beyond what they think they will need to ensure a victory.

States are posturing by passing laws nullifying the electoral college as well as giving their electoral college points to the popular vote winner. If their candidate wins the popular vote but not electoral college they will protest. If their candidate wins the electoral college but not the popular vote they will abide by the electoral college win. Some states have said Trump will not be on their state ballot and by the time it is proven illegal their candidate will be in office already.
Man you paint a grim future I pray you are wrong, but I fear your predictions are accurate.
 

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Well, did Rudy present anything today? Or is he going to hold onto his bombshell evidence until it's really time to deploy it?

Rudy might be the guy to dig up dirt on the Bidens, as I suspect he has first-hand experience in this sort of entanglement with foreign governments and businesses. It's gonna take someone who is much cleaner to make the public case, though.
Uh, I'm not Rudy's spokesman. I was working all day, so I have no idea. I was just saying that's what I think I heard him say earlier in the day. Regardless of what he does or doesn't have, i believe it will make absolutely no difference.
 

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The Senate will turn Trump loose no matter what so it matters not what is found on the Bidens now anyway. And it doesn't matter how much dirt they dig up on Joe Biden and Hunter. The whole fucking Government is bought and paid for and they throw boogers at each other to keep US all looking at that BS and reacting in shock like it hasn't been going on for decades now.

They (our Representation/Politicians) are fleecing US and raping our nation. Vote for Trump or Vote for...whoever. I'm convinced Biden will be the Democrat nominee no matter how much fucking dirt they dig up on him. He won't beat Trump and that's *not* because the US likes Trump better.

It's because Democrats won't vote for Biden for the same fucking reason they didn't vote for Hillary. Democrats are sick of their candidates being "nominated" behind closed doors in a rigged and controlled "Primary" and they don't want Joe like they didn't want Hillary.

It's all a fucking game to keep US children watching the slight of hand while the real business of conquering US goes on behind closed doors by criminals. It's all a rigged and scripted Reality Show and we are all watching it like it's "real" while the real dirt is being done behind closed doors by people protected by the actors playing Senator, Congressman, Governor, President, etc. who are playing their part for the big Corporate Oligarchy $.

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