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As mentioned earlier, what I got from Ruger was that the case length is more of a reliability/injury issue.
In tighter match chambers this may not allow the bolt to fully close. If that happens it will affect cycling and possibly cause injury.

The Ruger Precision rimfire does not have a match chamber, therefore, it is safe to fire Stingers.
In my experience it is also extremely accurate with Stingers. If you still feel uncomfortable shooting these rounds and want something close , there is CCI Velocitor ammunition that has is shorter case length.
Hope this helps guys.
 
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As mentioned earlier, what I got from Ruger was that the case length is more of a reliability/injury issue.
In tighter match chambers this may not allow the bolt to fully close. If that happens it will affect cycling and possibly cause injury.

The Ruger Precision rimfire does not have a match chamber, therefore, it is safe to fire Stingers.
In my experience it is also extremely accurate with Stingers. If you still feel uncomfortable shooting these rounds and want something close , there is CCI Velocitor ammunition that has is shorter case length.
Hope this helps guys.
Yeah sweet man. Thanks for the info. Always good to see someone contact the company and ask the question. I wasnt discrediting your information i was simply rolling with the thought process and diving down the rabbit hole lol.. i probably wont use the stingers but i havent really run many loads through my rifle so still dont know what she likes.
 

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I wouldn't shoot stingers out on any barrel that is not chambered for them. The stinger's case is longer with a smaller bullit that allows it to be shot from a .22LR. The longer casing may damage the throat of the barrel. Additionally the 1 in 16 twist rifling is too fast; I'm sure that you would shoot the barrel out much quicker than if you use standard or HV rounds. That's why GM produces a barrel for the 10/22 chambered for specifically for stingers with a 1 in 9 twist rifling. That's my $.02 worth :)
a 1 in 16 twist is slower than a 1 in 9
 

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I wouldn't shoot stingers out on any barrel that is not chambered for them. The stinger's case is longer with a smaller bullit that allows it to be shot from a .22LR. The longer casing may damage the throat of the barrel. Additionally the 1 in 16 twist rifling is too fast; I'm sure that you would shoot the barrel out much quicker than if you use standard or HV rounds. That's why GM produces a barrel for the 10/22 chambered for specifically for stingers with a 1 in 9 twist rifling. That's my $.02 worth :)
Another thing with twist rates is generally you need a faster twist for heavier bullets. So a 1 in 9 twist would not be a recommended twist for the lighter weight stinger. I think you misunderstood what you read on GM. They have a stinger chambered barrel but is in a 1 in 18 twist. The 1 in 9 twist GM lists is used for sub sonic rounds to help stabilize the slower heavier bullet weights.
 

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Another thing with twist rates is generally you need a faster twist for heavier bullets. So a 1 in 9 twist would not be a recommended twist for the lighter weight stinger. I think you misunderstood what you read on GM. They have a stinger chambered barrel but is in a 1 in 18 twist. The 1 in 9 twist GM lists is used for sub sonic rounds to help stabilize the slower heavier bullet weights.
See I told ya that someone within the forum would keep me honest. Thanks again...
 

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American Rifleman did a review for their September 2018 issue as well guys.
Their results were consitant with what I've been seeing and hearing, great accuracy.
 

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Another thing with twist rates is generally you need a faster twist for heavier bullets. So a 1 in 9 twist would not be a recommended twist for the lighter weight stinger. I think you misunderstood what you read on GM. They have a stinger chambered barrel but is in a 1 in 18 twist. The 1 in 9 twist GM lists is used for sub sonic rounds to help stabilize the slower heavier bullet weights.
Very good information.. i will definately keep this in mind when looking for bullets.. cheers.
 

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I'm glad you asked, I called Ruger the other day as this was a concern of mine as well. They told me that this particular rifle does not have a match chamber so it would be fine to shoot the CCI Stinger.
The main issue I believe is in semi automatics and barrels with really tight match chamber tolerances.
Hope this helps
That's funny they would say it's okay. : Here are pics from the manual:

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You are exactly right but that is what Ruger told me? I still think for this rifle the Federal HV Match is a better/possibly safer option.
I don't doubt that the lawyers made them add that part. I'm just laughing that the CS team will say it's okay even though it's specifically mentioned in manual not to use them. Left hand not talking to right hand..

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Shot my RPRF (like this name so as not to be confused with the actual RPR) today for first time. I took my time scrubbing the absolute s&@t out of the bore because it was filthy; took nearly an hour of scrubbing to get rid of the dark brown crap they coat the bore in to prevent rust.

Shot it at 50 and 100yds with FGM HV Match, FGM Target, Eley Target, CCI MiniMags, Federal AutoMatch and some generic Am Eagle 40gr. Target pics below but at 50y, I shot 30 rounds into separate 5 shot groups for each ammo then circled back and shot two more 5 shot groups and a 10 shot group. Figured for a new barrel that would let me work in the bore a bit and retest each to see if they improve over the first 200-300 rounds.

FGM HV Match 5 shot avg .78" and 10 shot at 1.15/.67. one first round flyer way out of group.
FGM Target 5 shot avg .845" and 10 shot at .85"
ELEY Target .71 5 shot avg and .7" 10 shot
Am Eagle didn't bother measuring 5 shot avg but 10 shot was 1.14"
CCI MiniMags .74 avg 5 shot and .8" 10 shot

At 100 yards, most stayed pretty close to double the 50yd groups.
Fed HV Match 1.92" 5 shot groups and 2.5" 10 shot
Fed Target (best ammo so far) avg 1.4" 5 shot and 1.88 10 shot (note first 7 shots landed in .85" then next 3 dropped low as wind switched into face)
ELEY Target 1.8" avg didn't shoot 10 shot
CCI MiniMags 1.5" avg and 2.4" 10 shot.
Fed AutoMatch 10shot group 2.68"

While it's not perfect rifle, it's a 400 adjustable practice rifle with features that would cost at least 300-500 more for new stock/chassis on another platform.

I need to test with some actual good ammo (Lapua, SK, RWS, Eley Black, Midas, etc) to see if it's rifle or ammo. But if I can practice with Fed Target for less than .10¢ per round and get 1.5moa accuracy to 100yds, I'm pretty happy because we'll, it's a f#@&ng rimfire that cost $400. If it shoots better over next 1000 rounds AWESOME!

And better precision is only $275 away from the boys over at ER Shaw barrels. They said .25-.5" at 50yds is the norm for the barrels they are sending out. Glad to have a new shorty practice rifle though!

Red dots are about .25" square for reference.
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I too noticed that the 1st cold bore shot with the RPRR is completely erratic to say the least.
I've been getting about 1in-1.4in @100yds with the Fed HV Match.
At 200yds it seems to almost hold that accuracy of 1-1 3/4in which is impressive.
Some ammo that shoots well close doesn't do as well at distance, and vice versa with poor 100yds results sometimes maintaining the same at 200yds.
Thanks for the info Subwrx300
 

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What has everyone been using for a guide rod and barrel cleaning compound for the first time?
 

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What has everyone been using for a guide rod and barrel cleaning compound for the first time?
No bore guides are available; heard tell of some modifying an existing one but can't remember where. For me I just used Tipton cleaning rod and Hoppe's 9 Bore Cleaner on two wet patched followed by a nylon brush. Then three dry patches. Repeated until the dry patches looked clean.
 
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I've used a Tipton Universal Guide for many rifles over the years. Just don't be an animal on the cleaning rod and everything is OK. I also switched to a nylon brush years ago. I use Boresmith Triangle patches on the brush for my wet and dry patches. Itgets into every little corner of the bore. Easy to clean, difficult to do damage. A good quality 1 piece rod is an absolute must though.
 

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I have a ruger prescion rimfire, it had some issues at first,,, didnt want to group with any ammo ,sk standard plus,or sk rifle match, or lapua center x,,,, sent the rifle back to ruger they put on another barrel, shot better but not to my expectations,,,, so I ordered me up a e.r. shaw match rpr barrel and it shoots like a laser. Topped with a athlon argos mrad 6-24x50
From 25 to so far 300 yrds I couldn't ask for more... Well my kidd 10/22 is pretty close topped with a athlon Helos 6-24x50 mrad.
 

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I have a ruger prescion rimfire, it had some issues at first,,, didnt want to group with any ammo ,sk standard plus,or sk rifle match, or lapua center x,,,, sent the rifle back to ruger they put on another barrel, shot better but not to my expectations,,,, so I ordered me up a e.r. shaw match rpr barrel and it shoots like a laser. Topped with a athlon argos mrad 6-24x50
From 25 to so far 300 yrds I couldn't ask for more... Well my kidd 10/22 is pretty close topped with a athlon Helos 6-24x50 mrad.
How did the second barrel shoot at 50yds? 1/2" to .75"?

Please post some 50yd group practice with the ER Shaw barrel... I'm sure many of us (certainly myself included) are very interested in their barrels. I almost bought one last week but decided to wait until I get 1500-2000 rounds through existing barrel to see if it improves much.

On a different note, I noticed that the RPRF bolt rotates/jumps ALOT when the trigger is pressed. Mine moves upward about 1/16 of an inch and rotates 5-6 degrees counter clockwise. I can't say for sure but this alone could be causing some of the issues with precision. If the bolt moves during fire pin dropping, it is also moving the cartridge which changes it's relationship to the bore.

I'm going to test my rifle with a small shim above the bolt when in battery to see if precision improves. If it does, then issues are with bolt/action design tolerances not with barrel. If it doesn't then well...it's a Ruger. Lol.

Good info here!
 

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I would love to send some pics if groups,i just gotta figure out how to from my dumb phone.. i compare it to my Ruger 10/22 Tony kidd its a hammer for sure, hopefully there is a fix for that bolt rotating issue,i like the idea of bedding the action in that God forsaking butt ugly stock, as fir the second barrel it didn't shoot any better, it would look promising,then go to shit...
I installed the shaw barrel and wala instant accuracy,,,thats no shit maybe i got lucky but now it shoots,still room for improvement but way better..let me work on those pics.. ohh and neither barrel from ruger would shoot consistant .5 group,, maybe 1 out of 50 10 shoot grps. Were that tight. The picture image says its to big... Can you help?
 
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I would love to send some pics if groups,i just gotta figure out how to from my dumb phone.. i compare it to my Ruger 10/22 Tony kidd its a hammer for sure, hopefully there is a fix for that bolt rotating issue,i like the idea of bedding the action in that God forsaking butt ugly stock, as fir the second barrel it didn't shoot any better, it would look promising,then go to shit...
I installed the shaw barrel and wala instant accuracy,,,thats no shit maybe i got lucky but now it shoots,still room for improvement but way better..let me work on those pics.. ohh and neither barrel from ruger would shoot consistant .5 group,, maybe 1 out of 50 10 shoot grps. Were that tight. The picture image says its to big... Can you help?
 

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It could just be that it is what it is, a 1.5 to 2moa rifle. The only reason that anyone is expecting anything more out of the factory rifle is the track record of it's centerfire brothers and that Ruger decided to capitalize on that name and reputation. I own 2 RPR's and bought an RPRF right out of the gate. Rimfire is a fickle caliber to start with and very few companies are successful in competing in the accuracy department. Bedding and barrel including the chamber are the most obvious areas that have affected these other rifles for good reason.

I don't see Ruger doing anything to improve the barrel on these rifles...maybe ever. The aftermarket seems to be making an effort though and maybe some enterprising company will even become full service and accurize entire rifles someday. The market will dictate everything.
 
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here is the start of my ruger precision rimfire review, part#1... more parts yet to come.. not a bad start for breaking in the barrel and for a very windy day. Going to run a 100yard 6x5 on a "NO wind" day... hopefully soon.....

 
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How did the second barrel shoot at 50yds? 1/2" to .75"?

Please post some 50yd group practice with the ER Shaw barrel... I'm sure many of us (certainly myself included) are very interested in their barrels. I almost bought one last week but decided to wait until I get 1500-2000 rounds through existing barrel to see if it improves much.

On a different note, I noticed that the RPRF bolt rotates/jumps ALOT when the trigger is pressed. Mine moves upward about 1/16 of an inch and rotates 5-6 degrees counter clockwise. I can't say for sure but this alone could be causing some of the issues with precision. If the bolt moves during fire pin dropping, it is also moving the cartridge which changes it's relationship to the bore.

I'm going to test my rifle with a small shim above the bolt when in battery to see if precision improves. If it does, then issues are with bolt/action design tolerances not with barrel. If it doesn't then well...it's a Ruger. Lol.

Good info here!
 

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Im a dam idiot,tryng to do this in my smart phone.. shoot me a text i can guve you a shit load of pics and videos with this rifle sorry. 928-925-3315 thanks
 

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From what I'm reading here it looks like I picked the wrong rings. I went with medium vortex tactical at .97 to go on a vortex diamondback 6-24x50.
 

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I fought my RPR from the beginning. Five shot groups were typically 3 tight and 2 random flyers, usually a first shot flyer, two tight, a flyer, and another joining the two tight ones.... unless I yanked the strays into the group.

I also fought weak ejection issues, if the bolt wasn't cycled fast it would leave the case on top of the mag.

Ended up sending the gun back and received it yesterday three weeks later. They replaced the barrel and bolt, sent two crappy photo copied images of a 3 shot group and 15 shot group on a 1" grid that were .75 - 1.25", said they were shot with CCI, but never stated which CCI or what distance the groups were shot at?

Went to the range today for a shakedown and overall it was a 50+% improvement. The trigger creep is somewhat unpredictable on this rifle, so until I mod it or someone brings a real trigger to market the true accuracy is still handicapped..... IMO.

Though I did managed to pile drive a fly that landed on the target board a 50yds.



Overall, after 200 rounds I was impressed with the accuracy improvement. Though the ejection is still weak.

I wouldn't say it was my best day and the trigger issues definitely handicap the true accuracy potential.

This was the first 50yd test target using CCI SV after 25 fouling rounds. The worst shot is .500" center to center.
 
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So far I really like my RPRR, accuracy and the fit/feel.
22s are extremely picky about what ammo they like so it takes time to find the right match sometimes.
My RPRR shoots most 22lr ammo approximately .5-.6in @50yd (5 shot groups).
However, if I can find the right ammo I'm sure I can tighten those up a little more.
Shoots 3 shot groups even better!

American Rifleman did a nice review on this rifle as well with similar accuracy results.
 

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Anyone running a 50mm objective (58mm outside diameter) scope on their rifle? If so, which ring height are you running? I am using XTR2 with high NF rings currently but would like to lower height a bit. I think mediums will work but it's very close die to the canted rail. Any input (and the gap left on your rifle) would be appreciated!
 

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I'll tell You later today if mediums work, once mine get delivered.

Anyone running a 50mm objective (58mm outside diameter) scope on their rifle? If so, which ring height are you running? I am using XTR2 with high NF rings currently but would like to lower height a bit. I think mediums will work but it's very close die to the canted rail. Any input (and the gap left on your rifle) would be appreciated!
 
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I have a ruger prescion rimfire, it had some issues at first,,, didnt want to group with any ammo ,sk standard plus,or sk rifle match, or lapua center x,,,, sent the rifle back to ruger they put on another barrel, shot better but not to my expectations,,,, so I ordered me up a e.r. shaw match rpr barrel and it shoots like a laser. Topped with a athlon argos mrad 6-24x50
From 25 to so far 300 yrds I couldn't ask for more... Well my kidd 10/22 is pretty close topped with a athlon Helos 6-24x50 mrad.
What kinda grouping are you getting at 100 yards? Having any kind of trouble with the Shaw barrel?
 

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So far so good, after a few groups of 10 i get a vertical spred,,,,i think its from the barrel warming up or maybe the action moving a bit,gonna bed it or try the tape trick i read here on the hide... Fir the most
Part i am very happy with the shaw barrel much better than the hammered shit sirry i mean forged one from ruger... I have tryed to post pics of before and after but im using a smart phone and it wont let me,maybe because im a newbie member idk....
 
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And when i say few groups of 10 its mire like after 2-3 boxes of ammo it rises about .062-.125 thats with either sk red box or sk yellow box... Deff. Better than factory,have a few lil things im gonna try.
 
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And when i say few groups of 10 its mire like after 2-3 boxes of ammo it rises about .062-.125 thats with either sk red box or sk yellow box... Deff. Better than factory,have a few lil things im gonna try.
So your phone won’t let the forum attach a file/photo? Interesting. I’m undecided on a Shaw or GM barrel. Can’t figure out which way to go. The longer barrel and 1:15 twist rate from GM could be a nice touch for added accuracy
 

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Right when i attach a picture,it says file to big,,,im sure its something im doing wrong. Thats why i went with the shaw it is acually a match chamber, very tight no slop at all. I also shoot it suppressed at home in the yard,thats the whole reason i got the rpr,,,and its just gotten worse from there,,,,the addiction..lol i have a kidd 10/22 but isn't threaded,so the rpr was in my budget,, and yet again trying to hot rod something that's probably not worth my time..
 

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Anyone running a 50mm objective (58mm outside diameter) scope on their rifle? If so, which ring height are you running? I am using XTR2 with high NF rings currently but would like to lower height a bit. I think mediums will work but it's very close die to the canted rail. Any input (and the gap left on your rifle) would be appreciated!
My best guess is that you'll need higher rings. I ran into issues with Burris xtr mediums on my Bushnell Engage with a 44mm Objective.
XTR highs are about 1/8 in from touching the rail.
 
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I'm running high vortex rings and the glass is athlon argos 6-24x50 and i have approx.1/8 in gap from bell to top of barrel.
 
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The Vortex mediums at .97 do not work

Anyone running a 50mm objective (58mm outside diameter) scope on their rifle? If so, which ring height are you running? I am using XTR2 with high NF rings currently but would like to lower height a bit. I think mediums will work but it's very close die to the canted rail. Any input (and the gap left on your rifle) would be appreciated!
 

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So I finally got to Chrono my RPRF and I'm a very impressed with FGM Target. Here is a 16 shot string:
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And I'm beginning to think the accuracy issues (flyers specifically) are not so much with the ammo but with the bedding/vblock. I shot several different ammo types today before bedding with aluminum tape and am about to go shoot it after bedding. Also, I taped two layers on each side of the vblock to make it anmuch more firm fit into the stock.

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So I finally got to Chrono my RPRF and I'm a very impressed with FGM Target. Here is a 16 shot string:
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And I'm beginning to think the accuracy issues (flyers specifically) are not so much with the ammo but with the bedding/vblock. I shot several different ammo types today before bedding with aluminum tape and am about to go shoot it after bedding. Also, I taped two layers on each side of the vblock to make it anmuch more firm fit into the stock.

Will post results in next few hours.
It appears to be aluminum shims of some sort on the lower where the action is bolted to receiver?
I'm not a professional gunsmith so thoughts are very mucg appreciated, as are ways to modify/improve the bedding.

Here's some pics in case some of you haven't taken yours down yet. I torqued action screws to 35in lbs.

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It appears to be aluminum shims of some sort on the lower where the action is bolted to receiver?
I'm not a professional gunsmith so thoughts are very mucg appreciated, as are ways to modify/improve the bedding.

Here's some pics in case some of you haven't taken yours down yet. I torqued action screws to 35in lbs.

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Here's an aluminum tape application on the action to bedding block surface:


With my gun the action rocked fore and aft a bit due to the rear take down being a bit higher. The tape neutralized the rocking..... in MY gun.

I'm breaking in the new barrel Ruger installed and it appears it's much better than the original tomato stake.

Here's 50 rounds of CCI SV, 1st 25 without the thread protector, second 25 with, then 20 rounds of Federal GM Ultramatch with the thread protector. 25 rounds of SK Pistol Match Special were shot prior to this target without cleaning the barrel. Winds were 3-6 mph and swirling 365* which is typical of my range. Also the trigger has at times an unpredictable first stage of creep in it which makes it challenging.



Budget rifle appears to like top-shelf ammo, though the wind was lighter for those 4 groups. :rolleyes: