Nikon Black FX1000

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Planning to get a Tikka T3x Tac A1 in 6.5 Creedmoor and begin my quest of learn the in's and out's of precision rifle shooting... Been looking at and reading every bit of information I can on current optics. That said I'm a picky person in nearly every aspect of my life, I prefer premium things and usually would rather have the premium item or nothing at all.


Is the Nikon a decent setup to start with and is the tracking still spotty or has that been resolved? Locally I have the opportunity to purchase one brand new from a dealer in 4-16x Illuminated XF-MRAD for $500, or should I save and spend the money on a higher end offering? I haven't had the opportunity to handle it personally but I am use to shooting rifles with Nightforce and higher end Leupold scopes.

This will be playing double duty in rifle season for deer if that sways anyone's opinion.
 

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I believe Nikon is going to stop making and servicing rifle scopes. I’d go nightforce shv f1.
 

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I believe Nikon is going to stop making and servicing rifle scopes. I’d go nightforce shv f1.
I was aware they were going to stop mfg but hadn't heard a definitive answer on service. I have shot a Nightforce SHV 4-14x and really liked it.
 

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Vortex has some nice stuff also some stuff on closeout. Cant beat their warranty. Also have a shv 4-14-50 and its very nice. check mile high or eurooptic for vortex closeouts. midway may even have some.
 
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I went ahead and grabbed a 6-24x from EuroOptic for $480 and I'll check it out when it comes in see if I like it... Nikon will be honoring the warranty.
 

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I don't think you can beat it for that price. Another vote for the shv 4-14x50 F1 for that price range.
 

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I don't think you can beat it for that price. Another vote for the shv 4-14x50 F1 for that price range.
Oh I absolutely like my brother SHV, but it on sale was nearly double the price of this... I really liked a Steiner T5Xi 5-25 I recently had the opportunity of looking through. Really liked the turrets and ilumination, actually the whole thing ever if they have some CA issues.
 

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Oh I absolutely like my brother SHV, but it on sale was nearly double the price of this... I really liked a Steiner T5Xi 5-25 I recently had the opportunity of looking through. Really liked the turrets and ilumination, actually the whole thing ever if they have some CA issues.
If you are semi serious about getting into a Steiner i would recommend that you keep an eye out for a used M5xi in the PX. I bought one for $1600 alittle while back and it is a good step up from the T5xi.
 

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I highly recommend the Nikon. I have the 4-16 Fx 1000 and it is probably the best optic clarity you can get for the money. The optics are just are clear as my Razor HD.. I wouldn't recommend it for a full blown tactical scope or PRS setup, but you can't beat it for the money. You are paying $1-2K for turret tracking and impact resistance. I dropped my Razor concrete, picked it back up, it was dead on.
 

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That Tikka you bought will be an amazing shooter. I have one in 308 and it shoots as well as any of my custom guns or Desert Tech barrels (Proof, Bartlein by SAC). I am sure the Nikon is a great deal, but I am a huge fan of those little NF SHV scopes. They are so bright and clear and just plain work. I have one on a lightish weight 300 win mag and one on a Sako Finnlight in 270 win.
 

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Warranty sucks. 5 year scope 1 year illumination.
Not saying that Nikon has a great warranty, but you are only partially correct on the illumination part. Nikon scopes have lifetime for optical components, 7 years for non-optical components, and 1 year on electronics.


Also here under "Nikon Riflescope":
 
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Ive seen them start going for $450 with IR. im not sure how Nikon is going to do a warranty. Apparently they are only getting out of scopes. Binos and rangefinders they are supposed to have still and those items will still have a warranty.
 
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Ive seen them start going for $450 with IR. im not sure how Nikon is going to do a warranty. Apparently they are only getting out of scopes. Binos and rangefinders they are supposed to have still and those items will still have a warranty.
Typically in situations where a company is exiting a market entirely, said company will contract to a third-party for warranty repairs (if they don't keep some minimum capability in-house) and also keep some inventory for warranty replacement for a period of time. My understanding is that if Nikon cannot repair or replace, they will give a voucher for Nikon product. For the price these are going, I'm comfortable with the risk. Just be prepared to run the scope through its places immediately.
 
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Typically in situations where a company is exiting a market entirely, said the company will contract to a third-party for warranty repairs and also keep some inventory for warranty replacement for a period of time. My understanding is that if Nikon cannot repair or replace, they will give a voucher for Nikon product. For the price these are going, I'm comfortable with the risk. Just be prepared to run the scope through its places immediately.
Thanks for the information. I have not used Nikon warranty so can't its currently good or bad(for those wondering). I have used Vortex. They are pretty simple and easy. Never have used Leupold's either. I say this to ask the question if the third-party going to be equal or better?

On a side note, I have two different reps one saying Nikon won't be honoring warranty because they won't have any product. Another said they will have a warranty. Who knows?
 

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EuroOptic confirmed they will be honoring warranty on all scopes... He did say 10 yrs down the road they may not still have parts if something were to break. However if it lasts 10yrs I'm perfectly fine with the $500 I paid.
 

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On a side note, I have two different reps one saying Nikon won't be honoring warranty because they won't have any product. Another said they will have a warranty. Who knows?
Well, a warranty is a contract, so Nikon can't generally refuse to honor it. If a company sells you a product under the condition that a warranty applies, they generally can't unilaterally alter the terms for products already sold (there are exceptions in cases where a company files for bankruptcy or in certain types of acquisitions, neither of which is the case here).

I can guarantee you that Nikon has taken a reserve of inventory and/or funds for this...their outside auditors would insist upon sufficient reserves for such ongoing contractual liabilities. General accounting principles have formulas for warranty reserves and there is no way Nikon is just going to ignore these obligations. Now, over time they may become more difficult to deal with as those reserves are depleted, so folks need to measure their appetite for such risk. At the end of the day, I got a good deal so I'm okay with that risk.
 
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They will repair or replace per warranty as long as parts and product are available and will then, once they are unable to do so, provide a credit which can be used on any other of their sport optics line items.

Nikon is continuing to build spotters, binoculars, and rangefinders. They are currently only discontinuing their scope lines.
 

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They will repair or replace per warranty as long as parts and product are available and will then, once they are unable to do so, provide a credit which can be used on any other of their sport optics line items.

Nikon is continuing to build spotters, binoculars, and rangefinders. They are currently only discontinuing their scope lines.
That works for me since I could always use any one of those three other optics. But on an academic level Nikon needs to be careful.

They will try to push a "credit" and people will take it, but the warranty provides for, at Nikon's option, repair, replacement, or "refund the purchase price shown on your purchase receipt". If neither repair or replacement are available, then it will default to refund of the purchase price. Nikon is counting on people not making an issue of it or having fully read the warranty. "Refund the purchase price shown on your purchase receipt" is not a credit for a different Nikon product. Nikon's lawyer's didn't draft that warranty very well since they didn't include the option for the refund to be made in the form of a credit. Warranties routinely have that sort of clarification and it's a glaring omission on Nikon's part.
 

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I used my new FX today at the range. At less than 20x the glass was crisp but anything over was blurry. The parallax is a little off I think. It tracked well and zero stop was easy to use. If you can get it cheap do so but otherwise just get a PST2.
 

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I bought the FX1000 4-16 because my buddy was like "dude, you have to see this scope". I got to put on my AR-10. The FX blows the Vortex PST out of the water. (But you have the Vortex service and warranty which is probably half the price of that scope) PST is probably one of the most overrated scopes I've looked through. They dim at higher power, which you get none of with the FX. I'm not saying FX is the greatest thing ever, but you can pick up a 4-16 for like $380 on ebay vs $900. I would go with the 4-16, the eye relief is great, parallax and focus is better than the higher power one. I can shoot MOA @ 1000 yds all day with it.
 
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I’ve had a 6-24 for over a year now and wondered about the warranty. Glad they have a plan to honor it and work with them.