New Sierra Game Changer line

RNWRKNP

Sophisticated Redneck
Belligerents
Minuteman
Dec 13, 2017
1,546
2,034
119
PHX, AZ
Interesting to see how they stack up against the ELDX line. My bullet drawer is becoming more red than green now with hornady’s improvements😉
 
  • Like
Reactions: 308220 and BLKWLFK9

BLKWLFK9

im just gonna send it..
Online Training Access
Belligerents
Feb 13, 2017
1,031
906
119
Would be cool to see it loaded into a factory offering like the eldx is.
 
  • Like
Reactions: RNWRKNP

BLKWLFK9

im just gonna send it..
Online Training Access
Belligerents
Feb 13, 2017
1,031
906
119
Just ordered some of the 90gr 6mm's. We shall see how it performs on NC whitetail and yotes
 

RNWRKNP

Sophisticated Redneck
Belligerents
Minuteman
Dec 13, 2017
1,546
2,034
119
PHX, AZ
Did any of you 25-06 guys notice that their 90g polymer tipped blitzking is at 388 BC? Have this one and Hornady’s 110 ELDX coming off the back burners for testing this fall. Should be able to get that 90 up to 3400 pretty easy. Make Wiley look like a Rorschach’s test🤔🤣😂🤣
 
  • Like
Reactions: MinnesotaMulisha

Greg Langelius *

Resident Elder Fart
Belligerents
Aug 10, 2001
6,023
1,264
219
73
Arizona, good place for me...
Yes. In a moment of clarity, I deleted the Game Changers from my Midway wish list, put the 130 ELD-M's back on, and added the 260 Rem 130gr ELD-M ammo, too.

Maybe I missed it, but I still haven't seen word one about the Game Changers dealing with the tip melt issue.

Got to hold and wait and make sure I'm not just doing the Ole Knee Jerk.

Greg
 

Jackalope

Sergeant of the Hide
Belligerents
Jun 8, 2017
141
147
49
Flagstaff AZ
Photos with the tips removed. 168 TMK (.308) rear, 130 TGK center, 130 eld-m front. Both Sierra bullets seem to be very similar though the TGK appears to have a thicker jacket. Sans tips, the Sierra and Hornady bullets are identical in length.


 

archangel485

Private
Minuteman
Oct 11, 2018
25
7
6
Any other updates on these? I'm interested in trying the 90 grainers in a 243 Win. The BC is at least advertised better than the upcoming 90 ELD-X which is not available yet as far as I have been able to find. And the price is also noticeably less than the Hornady. This only seems to be the case on the 6mm.
 

reubenski

First Sergeant
Belligerents
Jun 8, 2008
1,664
991
219
39
Colorado Springs, CO
I just developed a load for the 90gr TGKs in an extremely slow 6 Creed. It is a Proof Carbon barrel and it is extremely picky. There are more bullets it doesn't like than it does. I did get the 90TGKs to shoot relatively easily in this picky barrel. Shot out to 793 and the BC seemed to be true.
 

Attachments

  • Like
Reactions: MarkLeupold

archangel485

Private
Minuteman
Oct 11, 2018
25
7
6
I just developed a load for the 90gr TGKs in an extremely slow 6 Creed. It is a Proof Carbon barrel and it is extremely picky. There are more bullets it doesn't like than it does. I did get the 90TGKs to shoot relatively easily in this picky barrel. Shot out to 793 and the BC seemed to be true.
Awesome! What is your twist rate?
 

Kickin45

Gunny Sergeant
Belligerents
Minuteman
Oct 7, 2018
517
281
69
Sierra has always been a great choice but I think they are stepping up their game. Those are some tight groups in those photos guys. Nicely done.
 

archangel485

Private
Minuteman
Oct 11, 2018
25
7
6
Cool. Well I'm a little unsure about using these in a 1:10 twist but I'm going to give it a try. I've seen several mixed reviews on these as to whether they'll work in a 10 twist or not. I've got a factory 243 Win in tikka t3x (10 twist) I'm going to give them a try in. I'll let you all know if they work. If not I'll probably be going with the Berger 95 grain classic hunters or the 90 grain ELD-X which according to Hornady is being "run" right now so I expect to see them for sale in the next several weeks. I typically default to Hornady bullets on my rifles and have one rifle I shoot Bergers, but these just seem like a great option for a 243 assuming they'll stabilize. I can't get over the BC but then again that may inhibit my ability to shoot them in this rifle.
 

steve123

Lt. Colonel
Belligerents
Mar 16, 2008
8,080
778
219
Flagstaff, AZ
Cool. Well I'm a little unsure about using these in a 1:10 twist but I'm going to give it a try. I've seen several mixed reviews on these as to whether they'll work in a 10 twist or not. I've got a factory 243 Win in tikka t3x (10 twist) I'm going to give them a try in. I'll let you all know if they work. If not I'll probably be going with the Berger 95 grain classic hunters or the 90 grain ELD-X which according to Hornady is being "run" right now so I expect to see them for sale in the next several weeks. I typically default to Hornady bullets on my rifles and have one rifle I shoot Bergers, but these just seem like a great option for a 243 assuming they'll stabilize. I can't get over the BC but then again that may inhibit my ability to shoot them in this rifle.
It seems like they would work. I say this because I used to shoot the 105 amax in a 10 twist 243 and they worked fine at 1000Y.
 
  • Like
Reactions: archangel485

308220

Karma Enforcer
Belligerents
Jul 19, 2014
699
707
99
I think the name "game changer" is a little too much hype. Nothing about this bullet screams "game changer"!
 

Codiekfx400

Gunny Sergeant
Belligerents
Minuteman
Jan 29, 2018
714
240
49
The 90 grain 6mm bullet for the 25 cent price and a .490 bc seems like a slam dunk in a 6mm br. The 95 tmk bullet is 7cents more and has a bc of .5. Hmm I wonder which one would blow up a prairie dog better?
 

MilSpecOkie

Private
Belligerents
Mar 10, 2017
104
24
22
The 90 grain 6mm bullet for the 25 cent price and a .490 bc seems like a slam dunk in a 6mm br. The 95 tmk bullet is 7cents more and has a bc of .5. Hmm I wonder which one would blow up a prairie dog better?
Probably the TMK if it has a thinner jacket and will probably disintegrate faster in such a small animal. Of course you will have to test both and report back on your findings.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Codiekfx400

MarinePMI

Battery Operated Grunt
Belligerents
Jun 3, 2010
3,917
2,654
219
San Diego, Ca
Interested to see that bullet. I had less than stellar results with ELD-X this year; one bounced off a rib and then grenaded off the inside of the sternum, and the second shot passed through the heart, out the other side, striking a leg as it went, without opening up at all. The first (grenaded) one weighed 97grs (of a 140gr bullet) and was found buried against the opposite side hide. The doe would have bled out eventually (she sat down, and her chest cavity was filling with blood), but it would have taken a while. I just put a second shot into her to end it quickly.

Sierras are on my list as a replacement. The ELD-X acted too much like the SST's of old (erratic performance on game).

BTW, it was a large doe that dressed out over 150lbs, so it should have been big enough/wide enough for the round to expand and do it's job. Even at 265yds.
 
  • Like
Reactions: BLKWLFK9

archangel485

Private
Minuteman
Oct 11, 2018
25
7
6
Well I did some load development. Haven't shot anything past 100 yards so far but initial groups look very promising that this is stabilizing in my 1:10 twist barrel. These are the 90 grainers for those who didn't see my earlier post. Both groups are about 0.5" at 100 yards. Not bad for a factory rifle in my opinion. Aiming at the tip of the triangle in both cases, so hitting about 3/4" low, but I've since adjusted that out. I'll try some longer ranges and see how the BC holds up.
 

Attachments

Steelnecktie

Private
Belligerents
Mar 18, 2013
85
90
24
Missouri
Interested to see that bullet.
Well, not a fair evaluation as the bullet took a turn up into the spine and blew spine completely in half. Found the chunk of lead in off side shoulder just under hide. A lot of small pieces I wasn’t able to gather. Looks like when it hit spine it handgrenaded in all that bone. Anyways, here is what I was able to find.
38AF6491-8C98-486C-8C42-CCE39C0A175A.jpegBD877DFA-19A9-428A-8F34-30D288FA3E04.jpeg82E0D07D-C3B3-46DC-8011-C773DAB5238F.jpeg
 

spife7980

Luchador
Belligerents
Feb 10, 2017
5,301
2,341
119
Central TX
So basically exactly like every game king Ive recovered does lol

Im fine with it, makes for some spectacular headshots on pigs but doesnt give you the chance for a double. Great for white tail
 
  • Like
Reactions: MinnesotaMulisha

Steelnecktie

Private
Belligerents
Mar 18, 2013
85
90
24
Missouri
So basically exactly like every game king Ive recovered does lol
This one did quite a bit better, still went through a lot on bone. Bullet went in nose through cartilage through bone on bottom of skull and down into neck. Stayed intact and performed awesome. Retained about 62% of weight.
2BAA93B4-9503-43DA-A1CF-492F2A5EF043.jpegE22EB89D-0CF2-4CA7-88EC-A8E8000EF620.jpeg
 
  • Like
Reactions: BLKWLFK9