Kelbly's Black Bear Tactical

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- First off, I wanna start by saying that I am fairly "newish" to the Hide. Even though I've been stalking the Hide's PX section for quite a while, this will be my first full blown review of a product on here. With that being said, I wanna begin this review with a brief understanding that I don't know it all, nor do I claim to. I have a fairly deep background in long range shooting and pride myself on being 100% unbias and unfiltered when it comes to shooting and create my own opinions based off of real world usage and self discovered knowledge. That being said, I approached Ian Kelbly of Kelbly's Inc. to write this review, and he and I are on the same page. I'm not getting paid, nor do I expect anything in return for this article.

- Quick rundown of myself so everyone can begin to understand how I see things.... Kinda. I've been shooting long range competitions in some form for the past 10 years. I started out trying to one up my buddies with BB guns, which morphed into centerfire rifles, at a young age. Hunting was a big part of how I grew up, so naturally I based all of my opinions and knowledge off of a hunting mindset. It wasn't until I found F-Class that shooting at distance became a focal point within my life and a true passion (in its most honest sense) began to form. I spent a good amount of time on those open firing lines learning wind and watching trace. This is where I learned general ballistics. This is where I talked with 100's of shooters about load development. This is where I shot terrible but learned from my mistakes. This is where I realized having the right tools of the trade counted. I still like to look back and thank F Class and its community for teaching me those things.

Jump forward to the inception of the PRS and Practical Tactical matches. I had already joined the military and had an essence of tactical shooting with watching the AMU and International teams duke it out on Ft. Benning (As a bystander, just wanna make that clear), so I had an understanding of practical precision fires. When I went to my first PRS event, F Class shooting was replaced immediately. I was fairly young, and PRS spoke to a new era of "progressive" competitions. Just watching had the most profound impact on me and I had to get involved.... Since then, PRS/NRL and "Tactical" style matches are all I have shot and it's easily been the most impactful activity within my life. Personal and professional. I've learned more shooting, made more friends, and gained more real world knowledge than I can even begin to think about. It truly has been the best learning platform to test new theories and take back to discuss in my professional career on a real world level.

With that out of the way, I implore everyone reading this that has questions or critiques, voice them. I'm a big boy, I can take it.

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Kelbly's Black Bear Tactical SA, Standard Face (308 Pattern), RH
Bartlein 1:10 Twist 308 Barrel (Yes I said 308)
Badger FTE Break (Had it lying around, the rifle will see a Thunder Beast CB and Suppressor soon)
Manners T4A
Vortex Razor Gen 2 4.5-47x56
Warne Mountain Tech 34MM Rings (I love these rings, they're American made, and have never failed me. They're cheaper, but every bit as strong as my Seekins or Badger)
ADM 34mm Recon SL QD
Mesa DBM
Timney Calvin Elite 2 Stage
ARCA Rail
Alpha Mags 10rd Magazines
 
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-10 Sept 18-

Just received the Black Bear through my local FFL.

Initial impressions are that this action came to party, and its going to be hard to have initial negative statements (until I get the rifle completely built). I've shot dozens of differnent actions (Atlas Tactical's, Defiance's, Ultimatum's, Stiller's, GA Precision's, Trued Remmy's, Savage's, RPR's, Sako's, Steyr's, Cadex, etc) so I feel I have a decent amount of knowledge to judge an action, even though it is my own personal opinion and I understand that.

The receiver.... Large and machined EXTREMELY well. I ran an initial test with a couple dial indicators to check concentricity, if all of these actions come as mine has, they're all going to be within 1-2/10000th's of concentric to the centerline of the action. My dial indicator didn't move when I checked the tenon and machined threads. OUTSTANDING. Flat bottom design which isn't the norm for tactical rifles unless you talk about the Badgers and some European stuff. The tolerances are very tight, but not overly to allow the action to properly cycle. The nitride finish is as expected, deep and smooth.

The bolt.... It's a work of art. Spiral fluted, 2 lug design, with a long bolt handle and knurled tactical knob. Feels great in the hand and the force needed to throw the bolt is much less than I expected. This is 100% the smoothest action I have ever touched. I thought an Atlas was smooth... the Black Bear steps it up. The only thing I can really compare it to, is benchrest actions. Stolle's (which I understand is Kelbly's), Bats, JJ Rocks, etc. Its crazy to think of that smoothness coming from a tactical action. Not to say there aren't actions out there that are super slick, but the Black Bear makes a lot of my other rifles feel gritty and sticky.... Kelbly's claims they don't have to run any lube on the bolt and it gets even better as it wears in, so I'm interested to see just how that's gonna be.

Large oversized side bolt release/catch.... The thing is massive. I have no reason to believe I will ever have a failure with it... ever. Its that substantial.

Mechanical Ejector.... Kelbly's hit a homerun with the TG ejector on the Atlas's so I knew it would be the same on the Black Bear. Still need to test it with the rifle built, but overall I have reason to believe I'll have any issues with it. Plus, it prevents short stroking the bolt and if you wanna be soft with your ejection, say at the range while doing load development and wanna look at each primer instead of hunting for it, you can. That's a personal gripe, so your view may be different. Its a plus in my book.

Integral recoil lug.... This isn't anything knew to the industry, but it makes my life a lot easier when I spin a barrel for this thing. The lug is large and pronounced, but not so huge that it will make an issues with the coming bedding. Its at the front of the action vs being set back slightly. Now for me, I always questioned with certain actions if setting it back slightly would effect the tension in the tenon area and possibly add stressors to it. I'm not a machinist, but I do all of my own guns, so small things like that creep in the back of my head. I've never had an issue, just always wondered. With the Black Bear, I wont need to. Its where it's traditionally been for decades.

Ejection Port.... One word..... Massive. Largest ejection port on a tactical action I've messed with.

Trigger Hanger... When I got to the point of putting a trigger in it to check the drop and cocking, I already had a really good vision that this was one of the best machined actions I've ever touched, but then came the trigger hanger. I love trigger hangers. Super convenient, super easy, and makes life a lot simpler. You can tell Kelbly's has been doing this for a long time. The hanger is set in place by two set screws and two pins hold the trigger within the assembly. When I pulled the hanger out of the action, it felt like it was almost a press fit. The machining was tight but not a pain in the ass to mess with. The pins were what caught me off guard. Kelbly's took the time to machine pins that are almost exactly to the dimensions of the pin holes... I don't know if any of you have dealt with hangers before, but I hate it when I pull one out and the pins basically fall out. I don't know why, I understand there's no room for them to go anywhere within the action, but the though makes me cringe. With the Black Bear, that's not gonna happen. The pins are tight and will not move unless you force them to....Top notch!

Machined 20MOA Picatinny Rail... I like a machined in rail. Some guys don't. Some guy's enjoy a pinned/screwed in rail. To each his own, but I like simple. I like reliable. With this, you don't have to worry about something not lining up correctly, or not having the screws torqued. My gripe is, you've spent all this time and money developing an action to sell to the public....just like a mechanical ejector....DO AN INTEGRAL RAIL. Its fool proof.

Overall, you can probably tell by my initial views of it, the Black Bear is ridiculously good. I'm looking forward to getting this build done, which in all hopefulness will be before the end of the month. I have super high expectations based off of the first look and testing it's function/fit and finish.Kelbly's1.jpgKelbly's2.jpg
 
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Buddy of mine just got his put together. I loved it too. I haven't gotten to shoot it yet but the action feels amazing. Ian is a super dude. I've had the pleasure of kicking it with him a couple times at our NRL matches here in NC.
 
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Buddy of mine just got his put together. I loved it too. I haven't gotten to shoot it yet but the action feels amazing. Ian is a super dude. I've had the pleasure of kicking it with him a couple times at our NRL matches here in NC.
Well hell dude, we've probably spoken a couple times. I used to shoot at Paul's all the time when I was still stationed in NC. I'll be up at Woodys for the Guardian on the 22nd
 
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Hi,
I have a black bear at my gunsmith now.
Just wondering what stock - chassis you are going to use?
 

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I am thinking about going with a black bear or an atlas tactical. Appreciate the information and look forward to more review on it as your project goes along.
 

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Butler12, I'm currently inletting a Manners PRS 2 for my Black Bear. I thought about getting a XLR, seeing that they are building chassis for it and it would be easier, but opted to run a Manners because I like the feel of a traditional stock more. I could've gone with a Kelbly's as well, but they're not really my style.
 

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- 11 Sept 18 -

Here's more pics of the Black Bear showing more if its details. Pay attention to the tenon area paragraph, I think a lot of readers will be surprised by it.


--Massive ejection port with machined in 20 MOA Rail and large sturdy rear tang.

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--Flat bottom receiver body, large magazine cut, and two screw trigger hanger design.

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--HUGE bolt release/catch, integral recoil lug, and super smooth nitride finish. Very appealing to the eye and feels great in the hand.

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--Tenon and lug area's are machined flawlessly. Kelbly's is one of the only companies that can keep tolerances tight enough, to were when you order your action, you don't actually need it to thread your barrel. Yes. I said you don't need the action. The tenon on each and every Black Bear and Atlas is so exacting, you follow the tenon blueprint provided by Kelbly's and spin your barrel. This saves a ton of time and money for the end user and allows the barrel to be waiting on the action and not the user waiting for the action, then gunsmith to spin a barrel. HUGE thumbs up.

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--I love flutes. I don't know why, but visually they appeal to me. The bolt on the Black Bear is beautiful. Nice deep flutes, long bolt handle, and a knurled knob that feels really well in the hand. In the action, cycling is the smoothest I've felt.

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--Taking a closer look at the Kelbly bolt face. Now some people would say, "Oh, its just a Remington clone bolt." and technically you would be correct, except, a Remington extractor and ejector setup isn't nearly as reliable as this. Does it share the traditional 2 lug design, absolutely, but that's basically where it stops. The TG ejector system, is simple, but perfect. It's virtually fail proof. There's no spring adding tension to the back of the cartridge, so headspacing a barrel with a go/no go gauge will be much easier, and will ensure your round isn't being canted in the bore left or right.

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-- More to come as soon as I get my stock in, which should be later this week.

Garrison
 

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Just got my black bear in yesterday but haven't been by to handle it. MPA is going to offer a chassis for it and honestly i'm not a chassis guy but I'm tempted to hold out for one just to give it a go. What pissed me off though is I've tried calling them, leaving messages, emailing them, FB messaging them, even commenting on their new social media content and it took two entire months before I got anything from them and it was a reply to my comment on Instagram saying "soon". So their customer service kind of sucks and honestly I'm embarrassed I had to act like a kid, spamming them for any sort of reply but there you have it. MPA will have a chassis "soon". I've talked to a few shops and they said the same thing about their customer service so I may just go with what I normally buy and get an A-5 or PRS-2.
 

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Just got my black bear in yesterday but haven't been by to handle it. MPA is going to offer a chassis for it and honestly i'm not a chassis guy but I'm tempted to hold out for one just to give it a go. What pissed me off though is I've tried calling them, leaving messages, emailing them, FB messaging them, even commenting on their new social media content and it took two entire months before I got anything from them and it was a reply to my comment on Instagram saying "soon". So their customer service kind of sucks and honestly I'm embarrassed I had to act like a kid, spamming them for any sort of reply but there you have it. MPA will have a chassis "soon". I've talked to a few shops and they said the same thing about their customer service so I may just go with what I normally buy and get an A-5 or PRS-2.
-- I'll be with Ian and Phil this weekend for the Expo down at Arena. I'll make sure to ask Phil what the deal is with the chassis situation. Not sure if you're gonna be there, but I'll make sure to post his answer about it on here either way. XLR, Kelbly's, McMillan, Manners, and MPA have all agreed to inlet for the Black Bear but the only one stocking anything at this moment is XLR, in the carbon chassis. Manners, McMillan, and Kelbly's don't even really count because its a simple inlet to do on an existing stock, but waiting is what's gonna suck. I bought a PRS 2 from Core with a 700 SA footprint M5 DBM, due to the fact that the hole spacing for the Black Bear is the same and all I'll have to do is mill it for the flat bottom, trigger hanger, and larger recoil lug. Shouldn't be an issue. If you've got a competent gunsmith, they should have no problem.
 

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Also, I've got an A-5 with the arca rail set up for sale if you might be interested. Ill make you a good deal on it if you plan on running a stock, because we're kinda going through the same situation. Try and save you some money for inletting it.
 

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Also, I've got an A-5 with the arca rail set up for sale if you might be interested. Ill make you a good deal on it if you plan on running a stock, because we're kinda going through the same situation. Try and save you some money for inletting it.
If you would PM me some info on that. I'd love it but I have to sell a scope before I get any more toys.

Also manners did tell me if you buy a Remington inlet stock they can inlet it to black bear for you since all they need to do I take a bit more out of the stock. If you have an Impact or Surgeon bolt release they might have to be re-filled but that's no big deal.
 

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The TG ejector is a fully mechanical set up, where the bolt has a floating piece that rides in a groove within the bolt face. Best way I can describe the piece is kinda like a small ram that gets pushed forward when the bolt touches the bolt catch. The catch has a small blade built into it, which catches the back of that ram and forces it forward, which creates pressure on the round and sends it out the ejection port. Its sounds complicated, but its ridiculously simple and fool proof. I wish I could get a better picture on the inside of the action to show the blade.
 

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The external look of the action, especially the rear tang, reminds me of an AI action.

Looks great!
 

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The external look of the action, especially the rear tang, reminds me of an AI action.

Looks great!
You wouldn't be wrong with that assessment. I thought of a badger as soon as I saw it. It's definitely pretty though, and a damn tank. My stock will be here on Friday.... PUMPED to shoot this thing
 

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Was needing to find a long action remington footprint action, which lead me to the atlas tactical. From there I started reading about the black bear. Bruno had a black bear in stock. So I guess I now have a black bear on the way and still no action for the whiskey 3 folder I got during labor day sale... Should have 2 S/A Nucleus actions in next week, might see if I can sell or trade one to an atlas tactical (or long action nucleus). Anywho, can't wait to get my paws on the black bear. Have all kinds of -16 and -20 barrels, guess my 7 twist 6mm blank will be turned for the kelbly.
 

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Idk what 6mm you're planning on going with, but I love the 6BRX. I'd like to get my hands on a Nucleus to compare it to another 3 lug I've got.
 

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-- 13 SEPT 18 --

Black Bear Update

Changed my mind on the stock I'm going with. Instead of running a PRS 1/2, I bought a T4A elite from the guys down at Core. Made the decision to switch because I wasn't a fan of how wide the fore end is on the PRS and I wanna do an EFR set up so the the meat at the front on the T4A is perfect. I've been running a McMillan for the past year, and I like it, but I think the Elite is gonna be a lot better...
 

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Idk what 6mm you're planning on going with, but I love the 6BRX. I'd like to get my hands on a Nucleus to compare it to another 3 lug I've got.
I'm not sure what I am going to run. I already have 2 6brs, a 6mm creedmoor, 243, 243 ai, and just put a 6xc on a defiance tenacity. Would have liked to get the magnum bolt face, then could have done 6 saum, already have 6.5 and 7 saums. Will probably end up getting another caliber now that I think about it, have too many 6s already.
 

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I ran an AI last season and then an MPA for the first part of this season - I now have two T4As. Not the cheapest journey to take but I am very happy with my T4s - I think they are an awesome stock. I wish the bottom of the PRS stocks were inline with the barrel channel like the T4s as I like some of their other features.
 

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I ran an AI last season and then an MPA for the first part of this season - I now have two T4As. Not the cheapest journey to take but I am very happy with my T4s - I think they are an awesome stock. I wish the bottom of the PRS stocks were inline with the barrel channel like the T4s as I like some of their other features.
That's 100% why I went decided to get the T4A over the PRS. The angle kinda threw me off and the width was a little much for me. I'm in love with my AI AX chassis, just because it fits me better then any traditional stock but I'm starting to come around to them. I felt kinda bad getting a Manners when I already had a McMillan A5 I could've used, but with the little added weight of the Black Bear, the carbon will help even it out. Plus Core's new camo colors are just badass.
 

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I'm not sure what I am going to run. I already have 2 6brs, a 6mm creedmoor, 243, 243 ai, and just put a 6xc on a defiance tenacity. Would have liked to get the magnum bolt face, then could have done 6 saum, already have 6.5 and 7 saums. Will probably end up getting another caliber now that I think about it, have too many 6s already.
I ran a 6 SLR for my 6mm for the past 2 seasons until I spun a 6.5x47 and couldn't deny how easy load development was.... I already find reloading to be a little bit of a nuisance, but with the x47 it's like you throw powder at it and a bullet that'll spin will with your twist rate, and it just shoots. Very very pleased with it.

The SLR is a screamer of a cartridge, but my experience was slightly off putting. Reloading wasn't super hard, seeing that one run through a SLR die will form it from 243 brass, but it was inconsistent for me and I hate neck turning so I didn't wanna run Lapua 243 brass. One day I'd shoot with an SD of 2, ES of less than 8, and a group that was in the .2's.... Then next it would be an SD of 14, ES of 15+, and a group that made me look like I had never shot a bolt rifle. I felt crappy about shying away from it because I was running a 115 DTAC at 3000 with no pressure signs... Super wind cheater. Just couldn't get over the inconsistency, which could've been my reloading but I doubt it because the x47 runs a 2 SD, and and ES of 5 all day long.... Hard to argue with.
 

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Is the inlet change from a Rem700 to Kelby Black Bear as simple as going from a round to flat/square bottom? Does the pillar length remain the same?
 

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Screw spacing is identical to a tradional REM 700 length, but as far as I can tell, I may need to shorten the pillars slightly but not by much. I'm about to inlet a Rem footprint Manners for the Black Bear here shortly (within the next week or so) and will give more info/pictures to show what's needed to do it. I've got all the action blueprints and depth dimensions from Kelbly's and it looks to be pretty straight forward. If I read the blueprints correctly, retaining the overall depth for the recoil lug and working backwards from there, the inletting should be very simple. Mill the inlet slightly wider for the Black Bear and start at the recoil lug and work back making it flat instead of round.

The only real area that's significantly different (other than the flat bottom, which I understand is a departure from the norm) would be the tang area. The tang on the Black Bear is much larger than a Rem or clone Rem.

Based off of what I've been talking with Ian about, the inlet should look very very similar to this, with the only difference being the M5 cut for DBM:

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(Don't pay attention to the barrel channel, that stock isn't set up for tactical contours....)

Also, after looking over the action and inlet blueprints, expect to either shorten your traditional action screws for the 700, or ask Kelbly's to provide action screws when you order your action. This is specifically for guys wanting to convert 700 footprint stocks to the Black Bear and not wait on Manners or McMillan to build their stocks out and provide action screws to them. If you're planning on running an MPA or XLR chassis with the Black Bear inlet, those companies SHOULD provide screws as well.
 
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Ironically after posting my comment the other day MPA got back to me with a legit time frame of 6-8 weeks from now.

Considering a T4a now though...
 

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Lol, I called Ian and asked what the deal with MPA was. Not saying he made a call, but I did mention guys were interested in getting their hands on one to do their builds and couldn't get a definitive answer.
 
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Black Bear Update

Changed my mind on the stock I'm going with. Instead of running a PRS 1/2, I bought a T4A elite from the guys down at Core. Made the decision to switch because I wasn't a fan of how wide the fore end is on the PRS and I wanna do an EFR set up so the the meat at the front on the T4A is perfect. I've been running a McMillan for the past year, and I like it, but I think the Elite is gonna be a lot better...
I picked up the a Manners T4A Elite from Core last month and I'm with you. I prefer it over the McMillian stocks.
 
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Screw spacing is identical to a tradional REM 700 length, but as far as I can tell, I may need to shorten the pillars slightly but not by much. I'm about to inlet a Rem footprint Manners for the Black Bear here shortly (within the next week or so) and will give more info/pictures to show what's needed to do it. I've got all the action blueprints and depth dimensions from Kelbly's and it looks to be pretty straight forward. If I read the blueprints correctly, retaining the overall depth for the recoil lug and working backwards from there, the inletting should be very simple. Mill the inlet slightly wider for the Black Bear and start at the recoil lug and work back making it flat instead of round.

The only real area that's significantly different (other than the flat bottom, which I understand is a departure from the norm) would be the tang area. The tang on the Black Bear is much larger than a Rem or clone Rem.

Based off of what I've been talking with Ian about, the inlet should look very very similar to this, with the only difference being the M5 cut for DBM:

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(Don't pay attention to the barrel channel, that stock isn't set up for tactical contours....)

Also, after looking over the action and inlet blueprints, expect to either shorten your traditional action screws for the 700, or ask Kelbly's to provide action screws when you order your action. This is specifically for guys wanting to convert 700 footprint stocks to the Black Bear and not wait on Manners or McMillan to build their stocks out and provide action screws to them. If you're planning on running an MPA or XLR chassis with the Black Bear inlet, those companies SHOULD provide screws as well.
Off topic but.. where did you get that stand?
 

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That's actually a picture from Kelbly's webpage, but Ill be with Ian and Ryan this weekend and Ill ask for you bud.
 

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I have a Mcmillan A5 w/ clampbar cheek piece inletted for a Black Bear and M5 inlet that I would sell. Also have a Hawkins Precision dbm that could be added.

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Screw spacing is identical to a tradional REM 700 length, but as far as I can tell, I may need to shorten the pillars slightly but not by much. I'm about to inlet a Rem footprint Manners for the Black Bear here shortly (within the next week or so) and will give more info/pictures to show what's needed to do it. I've got all the action blueprints and depth dimensions from Kelbly's and it looks to be pretty straight forward. If I read the blueprints correctly, retaining the overall depth for the recoil lug and working backwards from there, the inletting should be very simple. Mill the inlet slightly wider for the Black Bear and start at the recoil lug and work back making it flat instead of round.

The only real area that's significantly different (other than the flat bottom, which I understand is a departure from the norm) would be the tang area. The tang on the Black Bear is much larger than a Rem or clone Rem.

Based off of what I've been talking with Ian about, the inlet should look very very similar to this, with the only difference being the M5 cut for DBM:

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(Don't pay attention to the barrel channel, that stock isn't set up for tactical contours....)

Also, after looking over the action and inlet blueprints, expect to either shorten your traditional action screws for the 700, or ask Kelbly's to provide action screws when you order your action. This is specifically for guys wanting to convert 700 footprint stocks to the Black Bear and not wait on Manners or McMillan to build their stocks out and provide action screws to them. If you're planning on running an MPA or XLR chassis with the Black Bear inlet, those companies SHOULD provide screws as well.

Any chance you can take pics along the way? Would def be interested in the entire inletting process for going from Rem700 >> BlackBear
 

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-- I'll be with Ian and Phil this weekend for the Expo down at Arena. I'll make sure to ask Phil what the deal is with the chassis situation. Not sure if you're gonna be there, but I'll make sure to post his answer about it on here either way. XLR, Kelbly's, McMillan, Manners, and MPA have all agreed to inlet for the Black Bear but the only one stocking anything at this moment is XLR, in the carbon chassis. Manners, McMillan, and Kelbly's don't even really count because its a simple inlet to do on an existing stock, but waiting is what's gonna suck. I bought a PRS 2 from Core with a 700 SA footprint M5 DBM, due to the fact that the hole spacing for the Black Bear is the same and all I'll have to do is mill it for the flat bottom, trigger hanger, and larger recoil lug. Shouldn't be an issue. If you've got a competent gunsmith, they should have no problem.
Hey guys! We offer both the Carbon and Evolution for the Black Bear Tactical action. Due to the massive size of these actions, at this time, those two are the only chassis systems that can accommodate the action. Looking forward to seeing more of this build and the great success you have with this action!
 
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Hey guys! We offer both the Carbon and Evolution for the Black Bear Tactical action. Due to the massive size of these actions, at this time, those two are the only chassis systems that can accommodate the action. Looking forward to seeing more of this build and the great success you have with this action!
Top notch!

Super classy for y'all to pay attention our builds and put out the most up to date info.

Appreciate what y'all do for the shooting sports, the products you produce, and the support you bring to the table.

Major thumbs up.

Garrison
 
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andrewsben

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Hey guys! We offer both the Carbon and Evolution for the Black Bear Tactical action. Due to the massive size of these actions, at this time, those two are the only chassis systems that can accommodate the action. Looking forward to seeing more of this build and the great success you have with this action!
What are lead times on orders? Or are they stocked?
 

MangoFett

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I called and spoke with the guys at XLR a couple weeks ago and they are top notch, awesome customer service and not only answered my questions but gave me more info I hadn't even thought to ask about. Keep up the good work guys.
 
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XLR Industries

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What are lead times on orders? Or are they stocked?
Hey there, sorry for the delay. Current lead times on the Carbon and Evolution chassis systems for the Kelbly's Black Bear Tactical range between 5-7 weeks. We have yet been able to produce enough to stock inventory for that specific inlet.

Thank you all for the kind words, we really appreciate it!
 

XLR Industries

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Top notch!

Super classy for y'all to pay attention our builds and put out the most up to date info.

Appreciate what y'all do for the shooting sports, the products you produce, and the support you bring to the table.

Major thumbs up.

Garrison
Thank you for the kind words! We look forward to seeing your finished build!
 
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MangoFett

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Like Christmas today. Got 2 nucleus and black bear sn 26 in today. From initial handling I'm wondering if I should sell the nucleus actions while they are hot and get a couple more of the black bears. Will have to play with them some more before I decide for sure though
The black bear looks like a tank next to the nucleus actions. Can't wait to see a finished black bear build.