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TonyTheTiger

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I feel old sitting here reminiscing about all the 60 round battlepacks I used to buy for about 35 cents a round. Now I'm going to go into hoarder mode and limit my K31 shooting...
 
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eicas

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Match grade Berdan primed I might add. Good stuff? Yep. Not worth it at the price IMHO. To each his own however. Party on and enjoy!
 

sandwarrior

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I feel old sitting here reminiscing about all the 60 round battlepacks I used to buy for about 35 cents a round. Now I'm going to go into hoarder mode and limit my K31 shooting...
I gave ten bucks a bag for that stuff many moons ago. Back when I first got my k-31. I paid $2.99 for the separate boxes of ten, but in the bag, it was quite a bit cheaper. I miss those days. I had even thought seriously about starting to reload Berdan due to this cartridge. Then Graf's got boxer brass for them (PPU). The hunt was then on to find a bullet like the Swiss 174. I've never had the ability to get one as good as theirs.
 
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eicas

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The “Good Old Days”

  • 9mm Wolf for $70/1K
  • 7.62x39 Wolf for $80/1K
  • South African 5.56 for $140/case brown tubs for $200
  • 7.62x51 Port for $149/1K
  • 1919a1 kits for $300
The list goes on.....☹

I can remember the Deputy laughing at me when I asked him politely to hold the door open at a Indy1500 Show while I got a running start with the dolly to make it over the door threshold. He did and wished me a good afternoon. Lol
 

steve123

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Yeah, same here - too much, and it's a shame they are berdan! I tried the hydraulic depriming and hated it.

Settled on PPU brass, 178 ELDM, and 50.2 grains R17. Close enough.
 

sandwarrior

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The “Good Old Days”

  • 9mm Wolf for $70/1K
  • 7.62x39 Wolf for $80/1K
  • South African 5.56 for $140/case brown tubs for $200
  • 7.62x51 Port for $149/1K
  • 1919a1 kits for $300
The list goes on.....☹

I can remember the Deputy laughing at me when I asked him politely to hold the door open at a Indy1500 Show while I got a running start with the dolly to make it over the door threshold. He did and wished me a good afternoon. Lol
Missed one:
1800 rd. of Turk 8mm for $80 I still have 1200 rds. left. It's hot-hot! And, from what I've chronoed and shot, the only thing that ever shot it accurately, was my Turk 1942.
 

eicas

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Oh hell yeah...forgot about the 8mm. I still got a bunch of the Turk stuff in the bandoleers, the Yugo or Serb stuff too...or is it Romanian...I dunno...its the stuff in the brown paper boxes stamped ‘56 I think.

The other thing (in my opinion only) that keeps me away from the G11 is that it’s now a finite quantity. It may trickle in now and again at a dribble, but it’s not made anymore. It’s over. It’s like peak oil right? I’d rather find a substitute that is long term and available. Ammo is a fungible.
 

zfk55sr

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Nope. It's still being made as of 2017. The last run was made in 1995 and the new run has no wax ring and is not crimped. Unfortunately it's still Berdan primed. It's in Canada at a few shooting clubs and in Switzerland in quantity. Once the 1995 run is gone the new schtuff will be showing up in the US. Be patient. Edelweiss is a rip-off with GP11.
 

eicas

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Ahh...understood. Thanks for the information and the correction. Everywhere I read said it was done and what was left was the only supply. So much for the “internet of truth” huh?

I received my custom Hornady case for measuring. I had to get a bit innovative with the comparator rod as I have the straight one (as opposed to the curved) and the length and shape of the receiver required a bit of “work around” to get it to work. Unfortunately, the results with the 175smk left a bit to be desired. It appears to be a rather long throat. In order to obtain a .030” jump, the bullet needs to be loaded quite long. It still fits in the magazine, but the amount of bullet in the case mouth is not very substantial. I’m getting a steady reading of 2.515” CBTO using the 175smk and the .30cal comparator insert. I have a test spread loaded with the 165gr PSPCL and the plan now is to see how these shoot before I start experimenting with yet another bullet and powder.

Work once again calls, so all this will be put on hold for another week to 10 days while I go out and do what needs doin’.
 

zfk55sr

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That 175SMK should be a very accurate projectile with the right powder, shallow seat depth and the right neck tension. If you feel like it, give me a buzz on the Swiss Products help line some time. It's on the opening page.
-32 here in Lost Prairie this morning, but with the heated ShootShed, it doesn't stop those who aren't faint of heart. LOL

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eicas

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Yea, its been quite the winter in the upper plains/midwest too... Lots of snow and cold in the Dakotas...

Thanks for the offer. Just might take you up on that. Let me see where the 165s take me. I have two other projects in que as well. A final test on a .300wm load, and a mid-process development with a 7mm RM. if I get too into the weeds with too many projects, NOTHING gets done! Lol

Quite the setup you got there. I’m jealous. My 100yd “range” backs up to the patio door, so my biggest issue is the dog barking at me because he thinks gunshots=playtime.
 
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YF12A

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I remember the good old days too.

.22lr Russian Biathlon Match, 500 rounds @ $9.95. From now gone Cascade, greasy, but shot awesome, I should have bought a pallet.

9mm Win or Rem value pack of 100 for $9.95 at Wally World all the time.

5.56 XM 193 Federal brown box, 1,000 rounds $169.95 at shows.

7.62x51 Federal M80, 500 rounds, $119.95 at many gun shows, buy 2, get a better deal.

7.62x39 Lapua, 1200 round case at a Pawn store, $300.00, I stole this!

Man, this hurts!
 
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YF12A

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This morning at 30 below..........

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Wow, does that bring back memories of shooting in N. Syracuse in the late '60's early '70's! My fantastic Dad would drive me (everyone had sets of studded snow tires just for the Winter, October thru March) to a field near our house, get out the cardboard and mat, and we would just plink at everything! Great times, great memories!

Thank you Sir for the trip back to memory lane, I needed it as I am now dealing with his Estate.