Flashers for ELR steel targets

Fursniper

Captain, USMM (retired)
#41


Diver, thank you for the links. Very interesting set up but for me, I am pretty handicapped when it comes to electronic stuff. I think a camera system is ultimately the way to go but there are way to many pieces parts in your system for me to be able to fabricate! I would need a "plug & play turn key deal due to my limited knowledge of electronic components. Right now I am "chasing" a couple of LED flasher systems that look promising that should work well for us out to 3000 yds. Someday though, the upgrade to a camera system is inevitable I'm sure. The wireless flasher systems are simple (only two parts to lose, lol), reasonably priced and appear to be pretty durable and reliable.
 
#43
Diver, thank you for the links. Very interesting set up but for me, I am pretty handicapped when it comes to electronic stuff. I think a camera system is ultimately the way to go but there are way to many pieces parts in your system for me to be able to fabricate! I would need a "plug & play turn key deal due to my limited knowledge of electronic components. Right now I am "chasing" a couple of LED flasher systems that look promising that should work well for us out to 3000 yds. Someday though, the upgrade to a camera system is inevitable I'm sure. The wireless flasher systems are simple (only two parts to lose, lol), reasonably priced and appear to be pretty durable and reliable.
Might I ask which one you're looking at ?


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#45
The one from the link you sent me (Pi-ft) and the T.H.I.S. (Target hit indication system)
, thank you again.
I have a used twice system T.H.I.S. (Target hit indication system) --- not something that is reliable.. I have hopes the Pi-fit triggers more reliably ... let us know.

Gotcha on the cam thing -- but might be worth partnering with someone to build something.. Remember a buck + ++ a shot and when we get bad info it is worse thing, as we think were missing but not.. as pointed out above, solids make things really tough to spot and expensive
 
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Fursniper

Captain, USMM (retired)
#46
I have a used twice system T.H.I.S. (Target hit indication system) --- not something that is reliable.. I have hopes the Pi-fit triggers more reliably ... let us know.

Gotcha on the cam thing -- but might be worth partnering with someone to build something.. Remember a buck + ++ a shot and when we get bad info it is worse thing, as we think were missing but not.. as pointed out above, solids make things really tough to spot and expensive

We have tried the Pi-ft wireless sensors inside a warehouse so far, they triggered the flash units reliably at 25 feet. Will be giving them a field test soon.
 
#47
Well this past Sunday I had a chance to see the Magnetospeed flasher in action at 1000yds

It worked, plain and simple. I would send a shot, I'd see the red beam flash just above the target for a few seconds and do the exact thing again. I don't honestly recall it flashing other colors the 2 times I missed cause I chased the dirt splash. But the 8 times I hit I could easily tell in 10am sun that it was flashing red.

I honestly can't wait for this to come out for another option in spotting hits cause hearing a 6mm bullet at 1000 with a tail wind gets to become a lengthy wait or very hard to hear. On extreme long range...I don't know, but my scope on 15x the red beam was very visible.


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Well this past Sunday I had a chance to see the Magnetospeed flasher in action at 1000yds

It worked, plain and simple. I would send a shot, I'd see the red beam flash just above the target for a few seconds and do the exact thing again. I don't honestly recall it flashing other colors the 2 times I missed cause I chased the dirt splash. But the 8 times I hit I could easily tell in 10am sun that it was flashing red.

I honestly can't wait for this to come out for another option in spotting hits cause hearing a 6mm bullet at 1000 with a tail wind gets to become a lengthy wait or very hard to hear. On extreme long range...I don't know, but my scope on 15x the red beam was very visible.


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#49
Hello Diver - our (URSA's) experience with IRIS has been very good. The need for delay seems to be associated with testing with a hammer (up close and personal to confirm the gear is good to go for an event). Lynn shot the NorCal event last weekend and shot it fast - no problem getting the lights to flash. For now we are sticking with IRIS - and hoping that RTAC will stand behind their assurance that they will repair if needed. They (RTAC) are also working on a project that was already in work when the sale was made - a longer range remote. That is where we experienced "problems" - shooters think they "must" have had a hit but no light. Lynn and I have both shown that NOT to be true within minutes after the complaint was raised - hits and lights. So, possibly we'll "soon" have a remote that works with our current gear and we can promptly demo that the lights are working just fine.

Moving forward to what can be purchased...maybe.

Since I have made multiple attempts to reach the people that bought the IRIS tech, I will now give you their website - noting that it is a one page, "coming soon" (for months), and they are basically uncommunicative - even though I've advised them we will buy a unit to test (to consider for possible future purchases).

https://lightreact.com

and their FB page (last post in Sep '16) - https://www.facebook.com/LightReact/

Whoever has a good link to the "Pi-ft wireless sensors", please post or re-post. Thanks.
 

Fursniper

Captain, USMM (retired)
#50
Hello Diver - our (URSA's) experience with IRIS has been very good. The need for delay seems to be associated with testing with a hammer (up close and personal to confirm the gear is good to go for an event). Lynn shot the NorCal event last weekend and shot it fast - no problem getting the lights to flash. For now we are sticking with IRIS - and hoping that RTAC will stand behind their assurance that they will repair if needed. They (RTAC) are also working on a project that was already in work when the sale was made - a longer range remote. That is where we experienced "problems" - shooters think they "must" have had a hit but no light. Lynn and I have both shown that NOT to be true within minutes after the complaint was raised - hits and lights. So, possibly we'll "soon" have a remote that works with our current gear and we can promptly demo that the lights are working just fine.

Moving forward to what can be purchased...maybe.

Since I have made multiple attempts to reach the people that bought the IRIS tech, I will now give you their website - noting that it is a one page, "coming soon" (for months), and they are basically uncommunicative - even though I've advised them we will buy a unit to test (to consider for possible future purchases).

https://lightreact.com

and their FB page (last post in Sep '16) - https://www.facebook.com/LightReact/

Whoever has a good link to the "Pi-ft wireless sensors", please post or re-post. Thanks.

I have an email address for the creator of the "Pi-ft" system. He said to use it for ordering through paypal. The units are $125 each + $15 shipping

Gregpiet@gmail.com

Haven't been able to try these units in the field yet, between high winds and current fire restrictions (firearm restrictions) at our ELR site, no joy on shooting with them yet.
 

Fursniper

Captain, USMM (retired)
#53
I have the PiFt units. $125 ish each. Impacted 2 miles a few weeks back, flash was clearly visible both to myself and to my spotters.
Excellent! Thanks for the field report. As I suspected & looking forward to using ours. BTW, the link you posted does not work, says "forbidden access to the server".
 
#55
Hello Diver - our (URSA's) experience with IRIS has been very good. The need for delay seems to be associated with testing with a hammer (up close and personal to confirm the gear is good to go for an event). Lynn shot the NorCal event last weekend and shot it fast - no problem getting the lights to flash. For now we are sticking with IRIS - and hoping that RTAC will stand behind their assurance that they will repair if needed. They (RTAC) are also working on a project that was already in work when the sale was made - a longer range remote. That is where we experienced "problems" - shooters think they "must" have had a hit but no light. Lynn and I have both shown that NOT to be true within minutes after the complaint was raised - hits and lights. So, possibly we'll "soon" have a remote that works with our current gear and we can promptly demo that the lights are working just fine.
Not sure about your idea of good, I stopped attending the NorCal matches the winter before last because none of the URSA's 6 IRIS systems could be made to work several events in a row. We found impacts on the target when there had been no lights. We made 3 trips to the target one event when the system would react to the first hit, but ignore the subsequent ones. The system can react to some hits, but not others.

Also, the remote only tests that the flash unit is charged and switched on. An impact detection module doesn't have to be functioning, or even on, for the remote to trigger the flash. The impact detection modules and their mounting are where the problems are.

The system is fast enough for ELR, but not much else. Again, the delay is built into the impact detection module, probably to give time for the target to stop ringing. You can press the remote as often and as quickly as you like and it will flash. I can't trigger it that often with the impact detection modules.
 
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Not sure about your idea of good, I stopped attending the NorCal matches the winter before last because none of the URSA's 6 IRIS systems could be made to work several events in a row. We found impacts on the target when there had been no lights. We made 3 trips to the target one event when the system would react to the first hit, but ignore the subsequent ones. The system can react to some hits, but not others.

Also, the remote only tests that the flash unit is charged and switched on. An impact detection module doesn't have to be functioning, or even on, for the remote to trigger the flash. The impact detection modules and their mounting are where the problems are.

The system is fast enough for ELR, but not much else. Again, the delay is built into the impact detection module, probably to give time for the target to stop ringing. You can press the remote as often and as quickly as you like and it will flash. I can't trigger it that often with the impact detection modules.
There are only 6 URSA IRIS targets and NorCal has 4 of them - never had 6 of them, so unclear how you could have seen an attempt to make 6 work. What I can tell you is that last weekend Lynn shot fast and the IRIS kept up. In two YEARS of using the IRIS system in SoCal I have never seen an occasion where the IRIS lights did not work properly. I have seen instances where they were not (literally) attached to the plate and they (surprise) did not flash - the unit had fallen on the ground because it had shaken loose. But no problem flogging a dead horse, right? BTW, yes, correct, the remote cannot simulate a hit - assuming that is what we are trying to do with the remote. Just for you - we use them to make sure the light is functional.
 
#57
The NorCal lights have work perfectly all year. I just started in March and there have been no problems except for a battery that was not fully charged and it was fixed before the match