Do you clean your suppressor?

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I’ll look up and weight both against the manufacturer’s specs.

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If you have the same amount of rounds on each, the pistol suppressor will be worse. Most pistol ammo has exposed lead bases. Getting lead out of a suppressor is a bitch.
 
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If you have the same amount of rounds on each, the pistol suppressor will be worse. Most pistol ammo has exposed lead bases. Getting lead out of a suppressor is a bitch.
If one shoots CF pistols, I would think one should strongly consider a take-apart can. I’ve listed a bunch on post #112 (although I’m focused on rifles…please let me know if any other take-apart CF cans so I can add them to the list).
 

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I decided to invest in an OSS can for multiple reasons. One of which was because they appear to be easy to clean. Here is a video from their site describing the cleaning process.

If I were to buy a suppressor, my first one would be an OSS for that reason, plus they seem to be more innovative that just stack some k-baffles up
 

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If you have the same amount of rounds on each, the pistol suppressor will be worse. Most pistol ammo has exposed lead bases. Getting lead out of a suppressor is a bitch.
Not sure if you know but in case you don't, never use anything with vinegar in it to clean a suppressor that may have any lead in it. It dissolves the lead and become lead acetate high is a liquid very easily absorbed into the skin.
 
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Not sure if you know but in case you don't, never use anything with vinegar AND HYDROGEN PEROXIDE in it to clean a suppressor that may have any lead in it. It dissolves the lead and become lead acetate high is a liquid very easily absorbed into the skin.
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I used to be in the douche canoe club of hehehehehe you don't need to clean a suppressor. just shoot it.

now I clean them and you simply should. it took me 5 days to strip all the carbon out of my last can I cleaned. it had around 3k on it when I noticed increased weight and loss of sound performance.
 

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what about hydrogen peroxide is bad mixed with lead? Its my understanding that lead would serve as a catalyst for H2O2 (hydrogen peroxide) to split into 1/2 O2 + H2O and the lead may or may not oxidize depending on the concentration.
 

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Rimfire, yeah you should clean periodically.

Pistol cans you could get by without cleaning if your not shooting lead bullets.

Rifle cans don't need cleaned. But, they can get corrosion in them depending on the material used.
 

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Rimfire, yeah you should clean periodically.

Pistol cans you could get by without cleaning if your not shooting lead bullets.

Rifle cans don't need cleaned. But, they can get corrosion in them depending on the material used.
Yes, rifle silencers do need to be cleaned.
 
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I thought you were trolling. Either way, I would go back and read the thread. Your last statement is demonstrably false.
True. Maybe I should have stated they don't need to be cleaned as much. But, that also depends on how much use they get as well. For a low round count can you could say it would never "need" to be cleaned.
I did go back and scan over the thread again.

No, I was not trying to troll.
 

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I think the “just keep shooting it” can apply if u are running them hard. Fast rates of fire, mag dumps and full auto will blow some shit out, but lets face it... most here are taking their time between shots and not laying down suppressive fire.

If the leader is precision rifle suppressors (Thunderbeast) says to clean at least once a year, I would follow.
 

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I think the “just keep shooting it” can apply if u are running them hard. Fast rates of fire, mag dumps and full auto will blow some shit out, but lets face it... most here are taking their time between shots and not laying down suppressive fire.

If the leader is precision rifle suppressors (Thunderbeast) says to clean at least once a year, I would follow.
I’m thinking so because all of m Omegas are ran on my AR’s and on 2 of them I have well over 10k rounds and they’re not barely an ounce over weight.
 
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I think the “just keep shooting it” can apply if u are running them hard. Fast rates of fire, mag dumps and full auto will blow some shit out, but lets face it... most here are taking their time between shots and not laying down suppressive fire.

If the leader is precision rifle suppressors (Thunderbeast) says to clean at least once a year, I would follow.
You bring up a really good point. I didn't think about how thermal stress and varying expansion characteristics of the can/contaminates would impact "self cleaning". But like you said, if my can is getting REALLY hot, so is my barrel. If my barrel is getting hot, I stop shooting to take care of my gear so it's a moot point.

And as far as the low round count comment made by @Bumpin88, you are probably right. But considering the benefits of using a suppressor, the number of hosts I have for my Omega grows every year. I'm up to 8 already, and rounds add up quickly when you shoot the same can on 8 different rifles.
 

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You bring up a really good point. I didn't think about how thermal stress and varying expansion characteristics of the can/contaminates would impact "self cleaning". But like you said, if my can is getting REALLY hot, so is my barrel. If my barrel is getting hot, I stop shooting to take care of my gear so it's a moot point.

And as far as the low round count comment made by @Bumpin88, you are probably right. But considering the benefits of using a suppressor, the number of hosts I have for my Omega grows every year. I'm up to 8 already, and rounds add up quickly when you shoot the same can on 8 different rifles.
Time to buy another! I have a Harvester in Jail currently. Gonna order an Ultra 7 or 9 eventually, prolly in the spring. My dealer keeps telling me he will get them soon, but never happens.
 

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Time to buy another! I have a Harvester in Jail currently. Gonna order an Ultra 7 or 9 eventually, prolly in the spring. My dealer keeps telling me he will get them soon, but never happens.
Thunder Beast is very backed up but Mile High shooting has the ultra 7 in stock, just happened to see it yesterday.
 
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I think the “just keep shooting it” can apply if u are running them hard. Fast rates of fire, mag dumps and full auto will blow some shit out, but lets face it... most here are taking their time between shots and not laying down suppressive fire.

If the leader is precision rifle suppressors (Thunderbeast) says to clean at least once a year, I would follow.

So, in full auto testing on a 556 sbr, getting the can glowing every 200rd, we had a about 1oz per 1000rd.
 

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Thunder Beast is very backed up but Mile High shooting has the ultra 7 in stock, just happened to see it yesterday.
almost did that last year, but was trying to be patient and wait for my dealer to come through. Honestly its probably my only way at this point, aside from SilencerShop.

First world problems.
 

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interesting... I wonder what would happen if it wasn’t an sbr. I’ve read shorter barrels can lead to unburnt powder... but that is guess.
One of my omegas is dedicated solely to my MK18 10.3” and it hasn’t gained much weight at all. 🤷‍♂️
 
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I’m thinking so because all of m Omegas are ran on my AR’s and on 2 of them I have well over 10k rounds and they’re not barely an ounce over weight.
Is that vs advertised weight or did you measure it first? Theres like 8 different ways to measure the weight depending on attachments.
 

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Is that vs advertised weight or did you measure it first? Theres like 8 different ways to measure the weight depending on attachments.
vs what the manufacturer says. i also have a brand new one thats only 3 months old and only about 200 rounds down it so i'm pretty certain.
 

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what about hydrogen peroxide is bad mixed with lead? Its my understanding that lead would serve as a catalyst for H2O2 (hydrogen peroxide) to split into 1/2 O2 + H2O and the lead may or may not oxidize depending on the concentration.
It's not the Hydrogen Peroxide alone, either.

Mixing hydrogen peroxide with vinegar makes peracetic acid. Peracetic acid, when combined with lead, forms lead acetate in liquid form. This can be absorbed through your skin and result in lead poisoning.
 

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It's not the Hydrogen Peroxide alone, either.

Mixing hydrogen peroxide with vinegar makes peracetic acid. Peracetic acid, when combined with lead, forms lead acetate in liquid form. This can be absorbed through your skin and result in lead poisoning.
Looks like Peracetic acid is mainly antibacterical and wouldn't do a great job of cleaning anyway. Good to know. Thanks for the chemistry lesson
 
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what about hydrogen peroxide is bad mixed with lead? Its my understanding that lead would serve as a catalyst for H2O2 (hydrogen peroxide) to split into 1/2 O2 + H2O and the lead may or may not oxidize depending on the concentration.
Im glad someone with more chemistry know all had the actual words to describe it, I just know that I was told vinegar on its own wont do much.

And when it came to explaining why I couldnt figure out why the acetic acid would eat the lead itself like you did, I guess because it needs to be peracetic acid for some extra oxygen or hydrogen acid components to oxidize the lead first that then gets eaten up to make the bad stuff?

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Im glad someone with more chemistry know all had the actual words to describe it, I just know that I was told vinegar on its own wont do much.

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Vinegar on its own is great for cleaning coffee pots and hard water stains on glassware, but not so much for cleaning carbon out of suppressors.
 
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Depends on the suppressor. On encapsulated baffle suppressors I don't. On unshielded baffle suppressors, I disassemble them, and clean them enough so that they'll go back in the tube. Pistons and 3-lug mount components get stainless pin tumbled more often to keep them clean.
 

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Depends on the suppressor. On encapsulated baffle suppressors I don't. On unshielded baffle suppressors, I disassemble them, and clean them enough so that they'll go back in the tube. Pistons and 3-lug mount components get stainless pin tumbled more often to keep them clean.
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do you know if that’s ok for the ultrasonic?
 

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I'm getting my hybrid 46 later this year. Should i weigh it before shooting the first time? Is there anything i can coat it in to help the carbon build-up? Would some moly, MP- 50 high temp, high pressure, molybdenum disulfide help ?
 

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I'm getting my hybrid 46 later this year. Should i weigh it before shooting the first time? Is there anything i can coat it in to help the carbon build-up? Would some moly, MP- 50 high temp, high pressure, molybdenum disulfide help ?
I would definitely weigh it with your set up as weights can vary based on end caps, attachment mechanisms etc. As far as a coating goes, who knows, it’s worth a try as long as you don’t mind being the guinea pig. It might be worth a shot, but keep in mind the suppressor internal environment is one of the harshest you can find.

A couple years ago, I heard Josh from PVA say that he had seen Schlerin imagery showing gasses coming from a muzzle being at speeds in excess of Mach 5. At those speeds, gases may not be gases anymore. Plasma can be created in the hypersonic realm of speed. Plasma is no joke.
 
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I would definitely weigh it with your set up as weights can vary based on end caps, attachment mechanisms etc. As far as a coating goes, who knows, it’s worth a try as long as you don’t mind being the guinea pig. It might be worth a shot, but keep in mind the suppressor internal environment is one of the harshest you can find.

A couple years ago, I heard Josh from PVA say that he had seen Schlerin imagery showing gasses coming from a muzzle being at speeds in excess of Mach 5. At those speeds, gases may not be gases anymore. Plasma can be created in the hypersonic realm of speed. Plasma is no joke.
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