Are we on the verge of a European revolution?

ArmyJerry

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You never give up your guns because clubs and motoltov cocktails just don’t work. It seems the violence is escalating and spreading to other countries. The guilotines are getting lubed up and waiting for their first necks in decades. I hope it implodes and spreads throughout the continent and even here.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/20...french-police-on-eve-of-yellow-vest-protests/

How long are the security forces going to protect the elite that they hate as much as the protestors hate. The elite need necks stretched, Ive Leagures here need some comeuppance. Read Tucker Carlson. We need full blown revolution here, a house cleaning of the elite.
 
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You never give up your guns because clubs and motoltov cocktails just don’t work. I pit seems the violence is escalating and spreading to other countries. The guilotines are getting lubed up and waiting for their first necks in decades. I hope it implodes and spreads throughout the continent and even here.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/20...french-police-on-eve-of-yellow-vest-protests/

How long are the security forces going to protect the elite that they hate as much as the protestors hate. The elite need necks stretched, Ive Leagures here need some comeuppance. Read Tucker Carlson. We need full blown revolution here, a house cleaning of the elite.
Our language is once again beleaguered, key-stroked as if you were beating on horse-drums in a Conan movie. And I'd be careful advocating openly for revolution.
 

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I bet there's enough weapons around Eruope to get sporty if they had it in them. How hard would it have been to tuck away a few crates of rifles, grenades and mines 25 yrs ago when the USSR collapsed?

Edit: Hell, I bet @THEIS may know the answer.
Europeans may not have as easy access to certain kinds of firearms as we do, but they are FAR from disarmed in much of the continent. In some eastern Euro countries (Chech Republic, Slovenia, Slovakia, etc), they are as heavily armed as we are.
 

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Not so sure all the people in yellow vests have pure motives. I saw an interview where they want lower taxes and more redistribution of wealth. One person said flat out there isn't enough socialism. College students were angry about how difficult it is to score on a test.

I don't think this is going to improve the country if they riot to ask for more of what made them angry in the first place. If they remove the government, are we going to get another Egypt situation like when the Muslim brotherhood stepped in to take power?
 
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The various "resistance" groups in Europe in the WWII time frame didn't have any delusions about playing "nice" or "fair", they did what must be done in any way possible, mostly giving no quarter or sympathy, because they knew none would be given them.

Guns are very useful, but in cities, you can have a lot of fun with knives, ropes, bombs, fire, gas, poison etc. If the enemy has a hard time telling you apart from the local populace.
 
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Not so sure all the people in yellow vests have pure motives. I saw an interview where they want lower taxes and more redistribution of wealth. One person said flat out there isn't enough socialism. College students were angry about how difficult it is to score on a test.

I don't think this is going to improve the country if they riot to ask for more of what made them angry in the first place. If they remove the government, are we going to get another Egypt situation like when the Muslim brotherhood stepped in to take power?
I can speak for the example of Spain. The tax structure is burdensome on anyone turning a dime, in order to keep the unemployed 16% supplied with 3rd rate pork, Cola Cao, sunflower seeds, a loaf of bread a day, and a pack of Fortuna smokes every now and then. It doesn't foster entrepreneurial spirit. The society is very have/have not, with little in between, although the ease of entrance into university and the low tuition continues to create educated Spaniards with few opportunities to ply their trades. The frustration levels, when I was there, were beyond epic. Many last-term and just-graduated university students lived monk-like existences as oposicionistas, incessantly studying for selective government examinations in order to fill civil service slots. While my experience during the temperate months was quite pleasant, summers can be miserable, and winters are generally spent moving to stay warm, unless huddled around a butane space heater at home. And the gas? Russia has a stranglehold on Western Europe for heating fuels. Really, there just isn't enough to go around in general, and people complain. I've seen demonstrations by students in all sort of facultades complaining about the incongruity of advanced education without a vocational end, and the goings-on in France surrounding the imposition of additional fuel taxes is no surprise. Even there, in my experience, the daily existence of many is much closer to the Third World than it is the First.
 
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I can speak for the example of Spain. The tax structure is burdensome on anyone turning a dime, in order to keep the unemployed 16% supplied with 3rd rate pork, Cola Cao, sunflower seeds, a loaf of bread a day, and a pack of Fortuna smokes every now and then. It doesn't foster entrepreneurial spirit. The society is very have/have not, with little in between, although the ease of entrance into university and the low tuition continues to create educated Spaniards with few opportunities to ply their trades. The frustration levels, when I was there, were beyond epic. Many last-term and just-graduated university students lived monk-like existences as oposicionistas, incessantly studying for selective government examinations in order to fill civil service slots. While my experience during the temperate months was quite pleasant, summers can be miserable, and winters are generally spent moving to stay warm, unless huddled around a butane space heater at home. And the gas? Russia has a stranglehold on Western Europe for heating fuels. Really, there just isn't enough to go around in general, and people complain. I've seen demonstrations by students in all sort of facultades complaining about the incongruity of advanced education without a vocational end, and the goings-on in France surrounding the imposition of additional fuel taxes is no surprise. Even there, in my experience, the daily existence of many is much closer to the Third World than it is the First.
Thanks for expanding more, always good to get an inside viewpoint.

I should clarify my statement, I'm not justifying the governments actions in the EU, but more so lamenting that a solid leader has not risen up out of the crowd to champion a specific set of new , better ideals to replace the old. Instead it seems like pure chaos with people saying they want change, and that change is substituting cancer for aids. Unless I am missing it, I don't see a figurehead rising out from the crowd who has a plan to fix the issues that would make me cheer on the yellow jackets.

So I am starting to think that if they succeed in overthrowing the government, a just as bad or worse group of people will fill that power void.
 
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ArmyJerry

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I think this goes beyond tax. I think the tribes of Europe don’t like being put upon by globalists.

In the US its part the globalist issue, part elitist issue, part outright corruption and criminality along with the Unconstitutional powers our government has assumed it can assume.

VeerG,,,,, Bernie Diane, Alexandria Corwhatever, Nancy, Obama et al advocate revolution every goddam day. Complete transformation are the words they use for it, along with actual revolution, I just want to revolution it back and remove the tools of government to wage revolution and transform us buddy.
 

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Thanks for expanding more, always good to get an inside viewpoint.

I should clarify my statement, I'm not justifying the governments actions in the EU, but more so lamenting that a solid leader has not risen up out of the crowd to champion a specific set of new , better ideals to replace the old. Instead it seems like pure chaos with people saying they want change, and that change is substituting cancer for aids. Unless I am missing it, I don't see a figurehead rising out from the crowd who has a plan to fix the issues that would make me cheer on the yellow jackets.

So I am starting to think that if they succeed in overthrowing the government, a just as bad or worse group of people will fill that power void.
There's very little middle ground in politics any more in general. What passes for a milquetoast moderate Republican here would be thought to be ideologically regressive by the Leftists over there. Every election cycle seems to be another exercise in political revanchism. And voids do tend to be filled by strongmen, as was the example in the last century.
 

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VeerG,,,,, Bernie Diane, Alexandria Corwhatever, Nancy, Obama et al advocate revolution every goddam day. Complete transformation are the words they use for it, along with actual revolution, I just want to revolution it back and remove the tools of government to wage revolution and transform us buddy.
I know they do. But they're not popping up over the ridgeline screaming "BUY MORE AMMO!". No, they have flunkies to incur the improbable wrath of the Leftist judiciary, thank you.
 

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I can speak for the example of Spain. The tax structure is burdensome on anyone turning a dime, in order to keep the unemployed 16% supplied with 3rd rate pork, Cola Cao, sunflower seeds, a loaf of bread a day, and a pack of Fortuna smokes every now and then. It doesn't foster entrepreneurial spirit. The society is very have/have not, with little in between, although the ease of entrance into university and the low tuition continues to create educated Spaniards with few opportunities to ply their trades. The frustration levels, when I was there, were beyond epic. Many last-term and just-graduated university students lived monk-like existences as oposicionistas, incessantly studying for selective government examinations in order to fill civil service slots. While my experience during the temperate months was quite pleasant, summers can be miserable, and winters are generally spent moving to stay warm, unless huddled around a butane space heater at home. And the gas? Russia has a stranglehold on Western Europe for heating fuels. Really, there just isn't enough to go around in general, and people complain. I've seen demonstrations by students in all sort of facultades complaining about the incongruity of advanced education without a vocational end, and the goings-on in France surrounding the imposition of additional fuel taxes is no surprise. Even there, in my experience, the daily existence of many is much closer to the Third World than it is the First.
That is pretty much the ugly truth about Europe, not just Spain, from England to Scandinavia.
A pretty façade promulgated by the Elites of how wonderful their socialist system is.
Underneath it's the ugly Socialist everybody is downtrodden except the elites that always comes with Communism.
The government handing out just enough to keep people from rioting (usually) but using that "handout" to keep people down.
Unfortunately unlike here, the local people pretty much have had freedom bred out of them.
The actual standard of living for the average working class American is a lot better than the average working class European.
 

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The various "resistance" groups in Europe in the WWII time frame didn't have any delusions about playing "nice" or "fair", they did what must be done in any way possible, mostly giving no quarter or sympathy, because they knew none would be given them.

Guns are very useful, but in cities, you can have a lot of fun with knives, ropes, bombs, fire, gas, poison etc. If the enemy has a hard time telling you apart from the local populace.

Unfortunately most of them were also virulent Communists wanting to trade one tyranny for another.
 

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Yes, they are, and they actually act upon their evil ideologies, how do you think we got baseball field attacks, Vegas attacks, untold numbers of Antifa attacks? They are advocating violent revolution at every turn every goddam day by “mainstream” democrats, while republican leaders sit by.. And they use the Government as a weapon to achieve it, I know you know this.

Yes Buy more ammo, buy whatever you think you will need in the event of a man made disaster. If you want, its just a suggestion, if you don’t want to defend yourself and your freedoms just go with the flow and hope you and your family and friends don’t end up as slaves to the state.

I think we are on the verge of major political landscape changing events globally. Much like the prelude to the October revolution and the events that led up to it. That bought about untold millions of deaths. If we don’t extract ourselves from the UN and reimpose our Constitution upon our own government, we will be caught up in that shit again, early this time, the last time landed millions of budding European socialists on our shores with the more evil European inttenegencia that fled here to our universities which put us right where we are today, bordering on outright slaves of the state.



I know they do. But they're not popping up over the ridgeline screaming "BUY MORE AMMO!". No, they have flunkies to incur the improbable wrath of the Leftist judiciary, thank you.
 

ArmyJerry

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LePen

Thanks for expanding more, always good to get an inside viewpoint.

I should clarify my statement, I'm not justifying the governments actions in the EU, but more so lamenting that a solid leader has not risen up out of the crowd to champion a specific set of new , better ideals to replace the old. Instead it seems like pure chaos with people saying they want change, and that change is substituting cancer for aids. Unless I am missing it, I don't see a figurehead rising out from the crowd who has a plan to fix the issues that would make me cheer on the yellow jackets.

So I am starting to think that if they succeed in overthrowing the government, a just as bad or worse group of people will fill that power void.
 
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For the record I don’t know if Le Pen would be good or bad for France but that is the alternative that comes to mind, and I do know the current situation is untenable and about to implode like reallly bad. I would enjoy seeing that.
 

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Well that is true but not at first, just when the alternative was put in front of them, and the European press is not going to let that happen, neither is the elite.

We know more about what’s happening in Europe from our shitty press than Euoropeans know about their own little towns. They are isolated in a Pravda sque medial industrial complex controlled by the elites with an iron fist. Use google and read up on it. You will be shocked.
 

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Well that is true but not at first, just when the alternative was put in front of them, and the European press is not going to let that happen, neither is the elite.

We know more about what’s happening in Europe from our shitty press than Euoropeans know about their own little towns. They are isolated in a Pravda sque medial industrial complex controlled by the elites with an iron fist. Use google and read up on it. You will be shocked.
I agree, I feel like there is so much more we are missing that it can be hard to get a full picture. I really hope the people start pushing for a solid leader soon so that the socialists and communists don't step in to exchange for a worse situation. I don't want their countries to go full Mao and start dragging land owners into the streets for executions.
 

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I know they do. But they're not popping up over the ridgeline screaming "BUY MORE AMMO!". No, they have flunkies to incur the improbable wrath of the Leftist judiciary, thank you.
Yes, they are, and they actually act upon their evil ideologies, how do you think we got baseball field attacks, Vegas attacks, untold numbers of Antifa attacks? They are advocating violent revolution at every turn every goddam day by “mainstream” democrats, while republican leaders sit by.. And they use the Government as a weapon to achieve it, I know you know this.

Yes Buy more ammo, buy whatever you think you will need in the event of a man made disaster. If you want, its just a suggestion, if you don’t want to defend yourself and your freedoms just go with the flow and hope you and your family and friends don’t end up as slaves to the state.

I think we are on the verge of major political landscape changing events globally. Much like the prelude to the October revolution and the events that led up to it. That bought about untold millions of deaths. If we don’t extract ourselves from the UN and reimpose our Constitution upon our own government, we will be caught up in that shit again, early this time, the last time landed millions of budding European socialists on our shores with the more evil European inttenegencia that fled here to our universities which put us right where we are today, bordering on outright slaves of the state.
My concern is that you're sounding more and more like you're advocating action instead of reaction. Now is the time for us to be cool, not to inspire someone to do dumb shit.

 

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Not at all VeerG. We have a ways to go before we get to that point, if we ever get there with the ebbs and flows of our system, am am more concerned today than ever before but that could be because I am older and remember living a pretty free life, unlike now.

Buy More Ammo and More guns, stay well prepared, communists dont go quietly, never have never will.

My concern is that you're sounding more and more like you're advocating action instead of reaction. Now is the time for us to be cool, not to inspire someone to do dumb shit.

 
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Macron is just a symptom of the real problem just as Obama was just a symptom of the real disease in our own country. Yet once they remove Macron they will continue forward with their socialist agenda as all of the “educated” people have no desire for freedom. The same instigators are probably motivated by more socialism not realizing it is the core problem
 

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This is what you are dealing with.

Macron's 'complex thoughts' too much for Bastille Day press conference
Date created : 30/06/2017 - 09:20Latest update : 01/07/2017 - 09:10

Présidence française, Soazig de la Moissonnière | The President of the Republic poses in the Élysée Palace for his official photo
Text by:Tom WHEELDON
French President Emmanuel Macron will not continue the tradition of the Bastille Day news conference – on the grounds that his “complex thoughts” are not suited to journalists’ questions.

ADVERTISING
 

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This is what you are dealing with.

Macron's 'complex thoughts' too much for Bastille Day press conference
Date created : 30/06/2017 - 09:20Latest update : 01/07/2017 - 09:10

Présidence française, Soazig de la Moissonnière | The President of the Republic poses in the Élysée Palace for his official photo
Text by:Tom WHEELDON
French President Emmanuel Macron will not continue the tradition of the Bastille Day news conference – on the grounds that his “complex thoughts” are not suited to journalists’ questions.

ADVERTISING
Too complex for the economy as well
 
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My concern is that you're sounding more and more like you're advocating action instead of reaction. Now is the time for us to be cool, not to inspire someone to do dumb shit.

Your point is spot on BUT your point is one of the problems. ANTIFA is marching in the streets attacking whomever they choose with what seems like very little response from the surrounding cops. IF a conservative group were to do the EXACT same things they would be clamped down hard by the cops. Then the Demokrats would scream for a repeal of the 2A with 1A next in line. The system has failed the citizens while elevating the cattle.
 

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This is what you are dealing with.

Macron's 'complex thoughts' too much for Bastille Day press conference
Date created : 30/06/2017 - 09:20Latest update : 01/07/2017 - 09:10

Présidence française, Soazig de la Moissonnière | The President of the Republic poses in the Élysée Palace for his official photo
Text by:Tom WHEELDON
French President Emmanuel Macron will not continue the tradition of the Bastille Day news conference – on the grounds that his “complex thoughts” are not suited to journalists’ questions.

ADVERTISING
I mean, right there in the open: you, my subjects, are too stupid to understand me so I will rule you in silence.

Veer, bloodshed is closer than you think. At this point I don't give a fuck who draws it first.
 

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This is what you are dealing with.

Macron's 'complex thoughts' too much for Bastille Day press conference
Date created : 30/06/2017 - 09:20Latest update : 01/07/2017 - 09:10

Présidence française, Soazig de la Moissonnière | The President of the Republic poses in the Élysée Palace for his official photo
Text by:Tom WHEELDON
French President Emmanuel Macron will not continue the tradition of the Bastille Day news conference – on the grounds that his “complex thoughts” are not suited to journalists’ questions.

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Damn, sounds just like the EU Overlords to he is beholden.

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Belgium uses tear gas and water cannons on 400 protesters. Arrests 100 or so..

Two of the multiple arrest charges: possession of fireworks, and: possession of protective clothing....
 

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This is what you are dealing with.
Macron's 'complex thoughts' too much for Bastille Day press conference -
French President Emmanuel Macron will not continue the tradition of the Bastille Day news conference – on the grounds that his “complex thoughts” are not suited to journalists’ questions.
I will translate from English to English.

"French President Emmanuel Macron will not continue the tradition of the Bastille Day news conference – because he's not a mere mortal like the rest of you scum. You can never approach his level of intelligence. Everyone knows that we Socialists are ordained by a higher power to rule over the masses and to not ever be held to the same standards that we apply to the knuckle-draggers that serve us."
 

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Unfortunately most of them were also virulent Communists wanting to trade one tyranny for another.
Yes it was a bit of a mess. National Socialists vs. Communist Socialists.
We took out the National Socialists and then left the Communist Socialists to do as they wished.
Perhaps we should have just taken them all out.
 

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I spent a couple years in Venezuela before Chavez was elected to run with his “revolution”. Socialism always ends the same. Bernie was touting it as a huge success at the time but he can’t back away from it fast enough now. It is incredible to me that lessons are not learned from the history of the last ten years.... If these people can’t see the history they have lived they there is no hope for them. SHEEP!
 

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I spent a couple years in Venezuela before Chavez was elected to run with his “revolution”. Socialism always ends the same. Bernie was touting it as a huge success at the time but he can’t back away from it fast enough now. It is incredible to me that lessons are not learned from the history of the last ten years.... If these people can’t see the history they have lived they there is no hope for them. SHEEP!
Communists / Socialists never learn because according to them the failures are always because the people weren't "Communist Enough" and if they only were "More Properly Communist" they would have succeeded.

The only ones so far who have not gone belly up are the Chinese, they almost did, but after loosing almost 100 million all told, the next set of leaders figured out they could keep communist control, but let there be capitalist incentives (almost like fascism) so that things stayed afloat.
(Because Culturally the Chinese didn't mind as much who the ruler is, as long as they can go about the making money and colleting money as usual).
It worked surprisingly well, however this new dictator for life seems to be going back to the hard iron Communist fist ideas again so they may wind up destroying what they gained.
 
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