my load was with 47.0 gr. at 3.070 COL win. brass, cci # 200 primer. I have a match PTG chamber.I hear that N550 is particularly good with heavier bullets but when I look at Lapua Reloading Data they only give charge weights up to 190gr Sierra HBPT. Does anyone know or suggest start loads for N550 with the 208gr Amax ?
I don'have a chrono, and this was only on old try at 100mts, 26" 1-12 700varmint,anyway_ as can be seen, I'm not a fine shooter, but all the 10 shots have landed there w/out effort,therefore I'm of the opinion that this (quick) group can be easily bettered_ this was the reason behind my question to truly knowledgeable shooters/hanloaders_47 grain of n550 behind a 208? Thats impressive.
I started with 45 grain, but that gave me not enough speed. I ended with 46 but this starts to give light pressure signs. I could go to 46.1 but 46 is already a light compressed load. The 46gr gives me 810mps out of a 32inch barrel with 1-10 twist, more than enough for me. 47 will not fit in my chamber, the bullits are already almost touching the lands.
About the n150 question.
I doubt that n150 will do anything good with bullits heavier (longer) than 175gr tips, especially from a "short" barrel like a 26. And 1-12 is a bit slow for heavies...
Has anyone tried h4350 or imr 4350 with the 208g amax.
WELL DONE!! 1 mile with a .308 !!! PURE AWESOMENESS!! That just goes to show that with the right set up ( 32"bbl" and a 208 amax ) what your capable of doing with a .30 cal. I kind of have the same thing( 30" Broughton 5c ) chambered for the 215 and 230 bergers in a .300 win mag. Also have a .308 on a stiller Tac 30 (bartlein #9 at 28") chambered for the 208 but the juggernauts shoot so well it's kind of hard to switch.So, finnally got to try the 208amax on some long range shootin.
Like mentioned before, shootin a trg22 308w with a 32inch barrel, givin me 2650fps
If it would not give me any advantage, i promissed myself, i would have the barrel shortend back to 20 inch and go back to lighter bullits....however, they surprised me quite happily.
We went to a privatly owned hunting ground, where you can shoot long range when it is off hunting season.
The owner has one rule, before he will let you shoot long range, you must first hit a 10inch round steel target at 580yards. I laserd the target, used the kestrel for barometrics and windage, put in the data in a pda with FFS and with some luck my first round connected with the steel, just a 2 inch high of center.
At 699.9 yards ( cant help it, range was 640m) i shot a 5 shot group of 4.7 inch
Hitting a steel target at 1046 yards i connected those heavy amax tips quite easily at a target of 16 by 24 inch. Elevation was dead on, windage was off within 2 mill the first 2 rounds.
But what amazed me the most was hitting the same sized steel target at a whopping 1430yards; the first round hit steel, so my spotter called me a lucky SOB. To use the same wind i reloaded fast and the second impacted almost on the same spot. Then i got cocky so my third and fourth just missed to the right, since i missed that the wind had picked up a bit. However the fifth round again connected putting those 3 rounds in a 6.7 inch group. With the 2 nearmisses the group was roughly 20 inch big.
Later in the afternoon i also shoot a 10 shot group on paper at 1430 yards, 7 out of 10 i got on paper, 3 rounds went to the right. However, those 7 round group had an height of no more than 4 inch. The width was 29 inches, due to my lack of wind reading capabilities...but still, not bad for a 308w at that range.
At the last day we also got to shoot at the same sized steel target, but now on a freakin long range of 1756 yards.
It took me some rounds to find the right windage, the elevation was deadon (it was constantly deadon, i am very happy with FFS capabilities, after trueing only once). However, windage was off by 1.5 mill and the wind was doing funny things throwing rounds from left to right, albeit not that far from the target.
Once i had found the right numbers, i was able to connect 3 out of 5 rounds, and later that day another 3 out of 6.
All in all, i am pretty happy with these results and for now will leave the barrel as it is, just will have to get used to the length and weight of this beast for now.
So your telling me that you can run a 215 out of a 308win with h4350 faster than I can run a 208 out of my 06 with the same powder? I would like to see that in person!!!I shot H4350 and a 215 Berger this past weekend at 100 and 300 yards. Had two distinct nodes at 46.3 and 47.5. 46.3 was running 2550 and 47.5 was 2605. Didn't see any pressure in either one using some test brass with 7 hot firings on them. Would somebody with Quickloads run the numbers on that and see what pressure it gives at a 3.100 Coal and Lapua brass. It was slightly compressed at 46.3 and really compressed at 47.5. 46.3 was one hole at 100 and 3/4" at 300 for 4 shots only though. 29.5" tube also.
I'm shooting loads over a chrony today to get an ES for 10 shots. I'll post results. I had no luck at long range with the palma brass and 4350, shot good at 1 and 300 but ES was too high and showed at longer ranges with verticle going back to regular brass now. Ro bird, my gun shoots best also with 42 grains of varget, if the 4350 doesn't show something spectacular today I will be back to the slower but more accurate varget load.Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of the venerable .308, but I see a lot of embellishment in this thread...
It's only ankle deep........if you are in head first.LOL, I always ask if I need to keep a lid on anything, the train has left the station, I have not disclosed anything I was told not to ; ) Like the new synthetic jacket material that's light weight and can withstand DA H E A T!
My GF just made the Tampa Bay NFL cheerleader squad during draft day, so I been BUSY! Will try n get to those 5.56 85gr black tips soon n post pics.
As promised. Shot several powder charges with different primers at 300 yards. Numbers on targets are ES for 5 shots. First string was the high left target was 6.Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of the venerable .308, but I see a lot of embellishment in this thread...
I think your right about the Pixies tears, poor Pixies!!!!!!!For my high wind days in 308 I have run RL17@43grs in MIL brass over ruski primers and the 208 AMAX. The tips didnt melt into pixie tears and 2780fps+ without any stress or pressure signs ASL. Chamber is M852 NATO in an AIAW . Bullet is 175 Scenar L and drives well to 1200yrds.Barrel is 27" poly rifled.
Sorry Ian,I merged two differnt loads into one thought! The 208 driven hard don't melt in 308 or for that matter in 300wm.I have pushed the 208 AMAX out to one mile plus in the 300WM and have yet to witness the pixie dust melted plastic. Hornady made aluminum tipped bullets in the past and had they continued we would have ground breaking BC as per the ALCO offerings. It is apparently too harsh ( or was then) on the production tooling. The ELD are a cheap hard plastic insert combined with marketing hype= price hike. I still launch the 175 scenar in 308 and the 220gr now in my 300wm.I like the hornady product on game and paper but the price push upwards slightly grabs my shit.I think your right about the Pixies tears, poor Pixies!!!!!!!