2A discussion thread--- @Lowlight

reeljob

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Maybe in light of what is taking place in Our VA Commonwealth and the surge in unconstitutional laws being proposed in other states, Lowlight could make us a sticky?
We must keep the discussion alive so we don't become complacent.
 

THEIS

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Hi,

Here is the unspoken "problem" with these such discussions here on SH.....

IT does not accomplish anything!! And here is why I say that:

1. EVERYONE here already agrees with the notion of The Constitution and the rights that it gives us. It is like preaching to the choir.

2. When ONLY like-minded people bring any topic up for discussion...it really is a futile point because at the end of the discussion has anyone been "swayed" to join their side? No; because there was nobody from the other side there to hear the discussions.

3. IF anyone requires a forum post to keep things on their mind in order to not become complacent....well you are already past complacent.

Sincerely,
Theis
 

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Definitely don't need this to be an argument and certainly don't appreciate the sarcasm! I assume a few of you live in a Gun and God loving state where every vote matters and Liberty and Freedom are exercised every day. Must be a nice place to live! VA used to be like that but when the Northam mentality and your states regime comes after you, you sirs will understand. United we stand qnd divided shall be how we will fall!
I remember actually the first time I shot my g-grandpas shotgun. I was three years old, killed my first squirrel at 7, and my first deer at 15. Shot my first match at 16.
I recited the pledge of allegiance the first time in Anchorage, Alaska on Fort Wainwright. Grew up believing in the flag and all she waves for. Have exercised my 1st amendment right more than most of y'all... Look beside my Hide name. Yes. I'm a Pastor and I am persecuted regularly. I have received hateful email, phone calls. And death threats based upon my beliefs. Yep, thats the great thing about being an American we can choose to believe in a God whom created us, we can choose to understand where our framers of the U.S. Constitution sought their wisdom or not. You live as you choose but may we all live free.
So, is a sticky the best way to keep our endeavors alive? Maybe, maybe not, but the enemy is coming to your village soon so may we stand united and not divided. Frank, its your call whatever you think is best for our passion, our hobby, and our Constitutional Rights!
 
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Definitely don't need this to the and certainly don't appreciate the sarcasm! I assume a few of you live in a Gun and God loving state where every vote matters and Liberty and Freedom are exercised every day. Must be a nice place to live! VA used to be like that but when the Northam mentality and your states regime comes after you, you sirs will understand. United we stand qnd divided shall be how we will fall!
I remember actually the first time I shot my g-grandpas shotgun. I was three years old, killed my first squirrel at 7, and my first deer at 15. Shot my first match at 16.
I recited the pledge of allegiance the first time in Anchorage, Alaska on Fort Wainwright. Grew up believing in the flag and all she waves for. Have exercised my 1st amendment right more than most of y'all... Look beside my Hide name. Yes. I'm a Pastor and I am persecuted regularly. I have received hateful email, phone calls. And death threats based upon my beliefs. Yep, thats the great thing about being an American we can choose to believe in a God whom created us, we can choose to understand where our framers of the U.S. Constitution sought their wisdom or not. You live as you choose but may we all live free.
So, is a sticky the best way to keep our endeavors alive? Maybe, maybe not, but the enemy is coming to your village soon so may we stand united and not divided. Frank, its your call whatever you think is best for our passion, our hobby, and our Constitutional Rights!
I claim the popcorn concession NOW!

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Hi,

Here is the unspoken "problem" with these such discussions here on SH.....

IT does not accomplish anything!! And here is why I say that:

1. EVERYONE here already agrees with the notion of The Constitution and the rights that it gives us. It is like preaching to the choir.

2. When ONLY like-minded people bring any topic up for discussion...it really is a futile point because at the end of the discussion has anyone been "swayed" to join their side? No; because there was nobody from the other side there to hear the discussions.

3. IF anyone requires a forum post to keep things on their mind in order to not become complacent....well you are already past complacent.

Sincerely,
Theis
What's your take on using a forum to get stuff DONE, after realizing the threats in front of us? You do realize that making money with building firearms could become pretty difficult a few month after November if we do not get our act together ASAP.

There have been many calls to action in the recent VA threads. Also, believe it or not, there were some people who realized they had lived under a rock until they read the posts about what's coming down the pike in VA.
 
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THEIS

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What's your take on using a forum to get stuff DONE?
Hi,

Depart a forum full of like minded people and venture onto a forum in which it is full of opposite minded people because you will be way way more likely to have an influence on changing someones thought process that is sitting on the fence there than to preach to choir here.

Sincerely,
Theis
 

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@ THEIS, I understand completely. We all here believe in our rights. It just may very well be an encouragement to men like our Sheriff Richard Vaughn to know we are behind him in support of OUR rights!
Take my word for it, it is alot easier to stand on others behalf when you you know who stands behind you!
I hope y'all ain't full of corn and calories!!
 
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reeljob

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Google my friend, and Sheriff Richard Vaughn and then tell me what you think of Virginia and our Sheriff's that have stood for us and placed a very large, way + MOA target on their back!
 

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Hi,

Depart a forum full of like minded people and venture onto a forum in which it is full of opposite minded people because you will be way way more likely to have an influence on changing someones thought process that is sitting on the fence there than to preach to choir here.

Sincerely,
Theis
It's one thing to do it in the country a hundred-plus miles from any big city in a football stadium full of like-minded individuals. That's literally preaching to the choir. Try doing it in the city. Try doing it in the Volvo Liberal upper middle class hellholes surrounding them. Any progress you make there is real progress. An affirmation isn't the same as a conversion and a baptism.
 

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We have more than enough stickies and they don't increase the likelihood of extra traffic as noted

I provide a gun owner friendly platform that allows you to do more than other social media platforms (dont mean other private forums, but places like FB, YT, Etc, ) So I see no reason to go Extra on the subject.

you have the bear pit, it's as political as you want it to be, and seriously be glad I changed the original site stance on politics to allow you to discuss these issues.
 
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@ Veer G, you have know idea where I have been and to what extent I have shared my beliefs. You have until now have had no information as to what extent I have gone to share my beliefs. I thank God for every American whose ever sworn an oath to protect this great nation, my son has swore that same oath and will gladly lay aside a breath full of air for the freedom of a nation.
That stadium full of " likeminded individuals" was a sigh of relief to speak to. I have traveled the globe expressing what I believe, I have escaped perils only to return to my family by a supreme creators Grace.
Sir, you name the place and I will more than glad to come, I sir, will consider it a privilege. That "stadium of like minded people" was nice but I'm open to less than comfortable opportunities.
 
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@ acudaowner, sir what exactly is your perfect idea of a "bbq"? To toast the very ones that don't believe like you do to a tee? Sir, here in the south if you desire to see blood and gut spilled we call that NASCAR. As far as I see it, its a buisness and I hope they all go home safe.
Maybe its too much to ask a group of Patriots to send up well wishes and prayers for a state that has always stood on behalf of freedom!
Reeljob out!
 

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@ Veer G, you have know idea where I have been and to what extent I have shared my beliefs. You have until now have had no information as to what extent I have gone to share my beliefs. I thank God for every American whose ever sworn an oath to protect this great nation, my son has swore that same oath and will gladly lay aside a breath full of air for the freedom of a nation.
That stadium full of " likeminded individuals" was a sigh of relief to speak to. I have traveled the globe expressing what I believe, I have escaped perils only to return to my family by a supreme creators Grace.
Sir, you name the place and I will more than glad to come, I sir, will consider it a privilege. That "stadium of like minded people" was nice but I'm open to less than comfortable opportunities.
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Hey Reeljob, welcome. You seem like a real go getter. Which is good I think. Where are the list of "Good Guys" in your tag line sourced from?
 
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Not seeking a ban hammer drop or fame, just a legitimate request.
No worries, see yall in the PX section!
 

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I'd do whatever is possible/required to have a recall.
You'll not change those in office or most of those who put them there.
Waiting on the SCOTUS seems to be useless these days.

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Hi,

Here is the unspoken "problem" with these such discussions here on SH.....

IT does not accomplish anything!! And here is why I say that:

1. EVERYONE here already agrees with the notion of The Constitution and the rights that it gives us. It is like preaching to the choir.

2. When ONLY like-minded people bring any topic up for discussion...it really is a futile point because at the end of the discussion has anyone been "swayed" to join their side? No; because there was nobody from the other side there to hear the discussions.

3. IF anyone requires a forum post to keep things on their mind in order to not become complacent....well you are already past complacent.

Sincerely,
Theis
I see #2 in a slightly different light. Listening to you old farts go on and on like a bunch of little girls has inspired me to go out into the world and try to take a crack at making a difference..

Course, then y'all will just bitch about other things, but at least it'll be some fresh material... Hopefully, anyway :ROFLMAO:

Spot on with #1 (except where encouraging folks to stand up for their own rights early and often is concerned) and #3, though.
 
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QuickNDirty, no old fart here. I'm not here to argue or bicker like little girls. I believe what I believe. I have an open ears and an open mind. If proven wrong I have no problem admitting it. I love my God, My country, and my family in said order, no apologies.
Apparently I have somehow rubbed one particular individual wrong with my views. OK to each his own I guess, this is America.
Does a membership on SH make any difference in my ability to smack little bitty targets with authority at LR? Nope, but it does allow me to learn from those that are able to bring wisdom from experience to the platform. I asked a question and several made a contribution. This is America.
So, on to your regular scheduled programming... VA has got this!!!
 

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Damn dude. This subject has been covered several times. The HMFIC has made his position clear on every one of those instances.
If you want to dig back in time I think you will find some of what I have stated as truth. At one point things got a little out of hand and the Boss Man made it clear that it would end or the offenders would get banned for life.
This very topic came up from someone else just a couple weeks ago. Now when you enter the Bear Pit and didn't do due diligence in researching your topic it's usually just fun and games to test the elasticity of the offenders skin.
So with that said. Welcome and grow another layer.

OH yeah, watch out for Larry. He goes by many different alias' but just assume if you get called a window licker or such. You have come across him.
QuickNDirty, no old fart here. I'm not here to argue or bicker like little girls. I believe what I believe. I have an open ears and an open mind. If proven wrong I have no problem admitting it. I love my God, My country, and my family in said order, no apologies.
Apparently I have somehow rubbed one particular individual wrong with my views. OK to each his own I guess, this is America.
Does a membership on SH make any difference in my ability to smack little bitty targets with authority at LR? Nope, but it does allow me to learn from those that are able to bring wisdom from experience to the platform. I asked a question and several made a contribution. This is America.
So, on to your regular scheduled programming... VA has got this!!!
 

reeljob

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@ darnyankee, I'm not new here by any means. I understand the consequences and my skins thick.
No harm no foul. I just asked a question.
I believe one thing this group understands is a passion for shooting! I plan on doing whats needed to enable myself and others to keep smacking steel and Hornady in buisness.
 

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Well, I figured that you was new to the Bear Pit not to the Hide. Many long time members skip on past on their way to the for sale section.
@ darnyankee, I'm not new here by any means. I understand the consequences and my skins thick.
No harm no foul. I just asked a question.
I believe one thing this group understands is a passion for shooting! I plan on doing whats needed to enable myself and others to keep smacking steel and Hornady in buisness.
My bust.
 

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no where in my comment did I suggest or imply hurting anyone . Everyone is entitled to there opinion , my mention to bbq was more about we are eating pulled pork and brisket tonight a friend sent 10 lbs out to us to try ( eat the hell out of ) he killed it cleaned it cooked it It was very nice of him to offer to let us have some to try . On the anti 2a issue I try and not think too much about it cause either way I have no thoughts of complying to any tyrannical dimacratic law that contradicts the constitution , nor will I submit to a registration of my fire arms to whatever end that may be , other than the hoops one has to go through to get a gun in the first place I have complied enough .
 
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Centralizing some comms isn't a bad idea. Even though SH is a "echo chamber", news about state and local meetings, proposed laws, etc can be valuable.

With this said and IMO, a "sticky" is actually less effective in this case. Threads for different states or localities are more targeted and thus more likely to capture attention of those who would be interested or have the means to attend.

ETA:

At some point however, there needs to be concerted and effective mobilization on a much larger scale. Full disclosure - IDK when or what this is...
 
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Hi,

Here is the unspoken "problem" with these such discussions here on SH.....

IT does not accomplish anything!! And here is why I say that:

1. EVERYONE here already agrees with the notion of The Constitution and the rights that it gives us. It is like preaching to the choir.

2. When ONLY like-minded people bring any topic up for discussion...it really is a futile point because at the end of the discussion has anyone been "swayed" to join their side? No; because there was nobody from the other side there to hear the discussions.

3. IF anyone requires a forum post to keep things on their mind in order to not become complacent....well you are already past complacent.

Sincerely,
Theis
I went to Nextdoor. I found a lot of people with opposite feelings. On everything.

They cry and ban you when you post facts.


Whole lotta socialist/ commie / gun banners. I mean it’s mostly women so what do you expect.
 

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I went to Nextdoor. I found a lot of people with opposite feelings. On everything.

They cry and ban you when you post facts.


Whole lotta socialist/ commie / gun banners. I mean it’s mostly women so what do you expect.
No one is going to convince enough that need convincing that self preservation is necessary til they feel the boots of the system they are crying for on their own necks.