1911 choice

ajv35XX

Random User
#1
For the 1911 officiados, I will be adding a 1911 to my collection in the near future. I am looking highly at either the:
Colt Rail Gun
Colt M45A1

or

Springfield Loaded 1911

Uses will be for daily carry and use on the range

I have an affliction for Colt seeing they are made in my home state, but the Springfields have always seemed decent to me.

Thoughts?
 
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pmclaine

Gunny Sergeant
#2
Mine would be

Colt Combat Commander RGZ.

https://www.hinterlandoutfitters.com/colt-special-combat-rail-commander-45acp-o4012rgz-p-74069.html

I like the checkered front strap and the ball mill at the front of the slide. Sights look very user friendly.

I have two Colts Commanders one LW and one steel I alternate carrying and they do just about everything the RGZ will do without the bling.

I picked up one of the decommissioned MARSOC M45A1s - the dual recoil spring and extra weight make for a soft shooting 45.
 

ajv35XX

Random User
#3
Mine would be

Colt Combat Commander RGZ.

https://www.hinterlandoutfitters.com/colt-special-combat-rail-commander-45acp-o4012rgz-p-74069.html

I like the checkered front strap and the ball mill at the front of the slide. Sights look very user friendly.

I have two Colts Commanders one LW and one steel I alternate carrying and they do just about everything the RGZ will do without the bling.

I picked up one of the decommissioned MARSOC M45A1s - the dual recoil spring and extra weight make for a soft shooting 45.
Thank you for the response sir. If I could afford one of the MARSOCs I would have one.

Any specific reason why you suggest a commander vs a full size 1911?
 
#4
Depending on your stature, that 0.75" off the front makes concealed carry a little easier. I know it isn't one of your options, but I ended up with a Dan Wesson Guardian. Lovely little gun
 

pmclaine

Gunny Sergeant
#5
Look at the Colt Combat Unit.

Pretty sure it's a Colt Rail gun with added checkering on the front strap.

I like a grippy grip.
 
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Veer_G

The Cunning Linguist
#6
Depending on your stature, that 0.75" off the front makes concealed carry a little easier. I know it isn't one of your options, but I ended up with a Dan Wesson Guardian. Lovely little gun
Not just hiding it, but it seems to be a split second faster on the draw, too.
 

mrtoyz

Online Training Member
#7
In the opinion of the old head gunsmith for Detonics, Dan Wesson is making the best production 1911's currently.
 

ajv35XX

Random User
#8
In the opinion of the old head gunsmith for Detonics, Dan Wesson is making the best production 1911's currently.
What makes them better then the Colts? I took a lot at what they offer, and am now adding one of their commander models into the mix
 

pmclaine

Gunny Sergeant
#9
Thank you for the response sir. If I could afford one of the MARSOCs I would have one.

Any specific reason why you suggest a commander vs a full size 1911?
Usually I like more sight radius and if this were an open carry service pistol Id go 5 inch barrel.

but....I carry my Commanders.

Im not a big guy, 5-8 or so, and can run 3 miles if tasked with doing so. The minus 3/4 inches makes the Commander a little bit easier to conceal.

I carry on a outside the WB Garret Industries Silent Thunder. It rides high on the belt and your typical bowling shirt covers it nicely.

You will pay for the concealability with a little bit of accuracy. Not much but some.
 

mrtoyz

Online Training Member
#10
What makes them better then the Colts? I took a lot at what they offer, and am now adding one of their commander models into the mix
He brought up 2 things:
Dan Wesson is using all billet components. There are no MIM (metal injection molding) parts.
In his opinion the fit and finish was the best of any production gun.
 
#17
I had a Springfield lightweight operator. It was a nice gun. Very reliable and I could shoot some very tight groups with it, but... Those tight groups always hit higher than point of aim. I looked at getting a new front sight to correct but never could find a straight answer about what cut Springfield uses.

I just traded the Springfield in on a Dan Wesson Valor. In my opinion, it is no more reliable or shootable than the Springfield. The trigger feels nicer when I dry fire it, but when I'm actually shooting I'm not sure I can tell a difference. It does hit where I am aiming it though, unlike the Springfield that I had to hold under. The fit and finish seem just a touch nicer on the Dan Wesson in my opinion.

So, I think the Dan Wesson is a little bit nicer gun, but there is nothing at all wrong with a Springfield. You will be happy with either. Is the extra cost of a Dan Wesson worth it? Only you can answer that.
 
#18
I would save my pennies for a couple more months then look at a used Les Baer PII - even a new price from crazy John is still the best bang for your buck for a 1911. But then again, those you are considering are great pistols as well - depending upon your intended use, most 1911's might fill the bill.
 
#19
DW is the way to go. Skip the Colt. No checkering on the front strap. And the Springfields have a mushy safety (IMO). Dan Wessons are the tightest, best out of box triggers, best sights (rear hooks) and the quality is 100% better.

My EDC is a DW Discretion that I had milled for a Trijicon RMR with the 1911 RMR plate. It is a tack driver and is 100% reliable.