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  • USPS theft....DO NOT SHIP USPS, under any circumstances.

    Sorry guys but I need to vent here for a minute. Did a stock trade with a member here and the box was received today. Here are the facts. Box left the shipping location at 10 pounds. It was received at my post office today at a little under 5. No tracking number or signature confirmation number was affixed to the box even though they were paid for by the shipper. THis was a modular stock shipped in the original box inside of a larger shipping box. The outer box had obviously been cut open to remove the factory box inside. The contents of the factory boxes were removed and the boxes were closed up, replaced inside the factory box and stuck back into the shipping box. This isn't a case where damage occurred to the shipping box and items were able to slip out or fell out of some damaged spot. Someone opened the fucking box, opened the factory box on the inside and stole the contents. Period, end of discussion. I ship with the USPS every week. The vast majority of my work is shipped to the customer. I did not realize that when you are insuring a package you were insuring it from theft from the USPS but that's what you are actually doing. For myself this is absolutely the very last straw in a long line of issues with the USPS. THey have lost packages, damaged packages and various other little issues over the years but when you ship as many as I do you have to let some of that go. When the USPS is STEALING YOUR ITEMS, I absolutely refuse to give them one dime of my money at any point in the future. The best that I could do was document this in it's entirety with the postmaster, who advised me to check the contents in her presence as it looked to be tampered with. Sure they are going to contact the postal inspector, every thing was documented and photographed but that means exactly jack-shit. I am awaiting to hear from the inspector now, if he ever contacts me. This package wasn't insured and I am not assigning any blame because of that. I ship things regularly without insurance, there's no fault there. I sent the stock to the other member uninsured as a matter of fact.So the moral to the story is this, Just don't do it. Take your business to a more reputable shipper, that is what I will be doing from this point forward. If you do ship USPS, insure the contents for at least five times the value. Then at least when this happens to one of you guys and it will, the postal service will be forced to cough up a chunk of money to make it right.

    Living where I do the only available shipper is USPS unless I travel about 53 miles to another town. I always tried to remain positive about issues with the USPS knowing that they are just trying to do a job. This is it for me, I'm done with them. I just can't continue to do business with an establishment that has repetitively let me down and now blatantly stole from me. I will drive the hour to ship with another service, I advise you to do the same.

  • #2
    If you ship that much you can set up an account with UPS or FedEx. They will come to you when you schedule a shipment. Also, you can insure for what ever amount you want through USPS but when you file a claim you will only get the value of the item. That is if you get anything, They are not stupid.
    Do the right thing, regardless of the cost.

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    • #3
      I don't have an address, I literally live so far off the postal route that the closest mail box to me is about 5 miles. I get a free PO box they cannot service my area for mail. Therefore I can't ship anything from home, no matter if I meter it and do everything myself I still have to take it to a service provider.

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      • #4
        I have had far better luck with USPS than any other shipper.
        They are much faster than either UPS or Fedex as well as being cheaper.
        Friend...
        Even if you will make mischief itself in trousers - it not interestingly me...

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        • #5
          This has been my experience in the past, cheaper and faster. Not so much this time.

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          • #6
            My only experience with a postal inspector was a waste of time, never even got a reply.
            "...the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed".

            To stand and fight, against all who oppress or attack, is an inherent human right that transcends any law written by man - this is what the Second Amendment memorializes, as a reminder to the individual of his or her birthright and as warning and epitaph to those who would attempt to act or govern without regard for that birthright. The politician that says different is a tyrant in the making and sooner or later intends to be your master; the fool that agrees with him or her is begging to be made a slave.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by MTFalconer View Post
              This has been my experience in the past, cheaper and faster. Not so much this time.
              Sorry to hear about your problem but in reality USPS is damn good for as much volumne as they do. Ive shipped many items worth thousands and nly had one problem and it showed up eventually.

              If I were you, Id quit blaming the postal service and be kicking my own self in the ass for 'NOT INSURING A VALUABLE ITEM'.

              "Never argue with a Slopchute. It will drag you down to its level and then beat you with experience." Maggot

              "I watched a snail crawl along the edge of a straight razor. That's my dream. That's my nightmare. Crawling, slithering, along the edge of a straight... razor... and surviving." Col. Walter Kurtz, from Apocalypse Now

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              • #8
                My problem was mail fraud, not a missing package.
                "...the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed".

                To stand and fight, against all who oppress or attack, is an inherent human right that transcends any law written by man - this is what the Second Amendment memorializes, as a reminder to the individual of his or her birthright and as warning and epitaph to those who would attempt to act or govern without regard for that birthright. The politician that says different is a tyrant in the making and sooner or later intends to be your master; the fool that agrees with him or her is begging to be made a slave.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Maggot View Post

                  If I were you, Id quit blaming the postal service and be kicking my own self in the ass for 'NOT INSURING A VALUABLE ITEM'.
                  You know you are absolutely right, how dare I blame USPS for obviously and blatantly opening a box and stealing from me. The report my postmaster gave me indicating is was exactly POSTAL THEFT is also something that could have been prevented.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by MTFalconer View Post

                    You know you are absolutely right, how dare I blame USPS for obviously and blatantly opening a box and stealing from me. The report my postmaster gave me indicating is was exactly POSTAL THEFT is also something that could have been prevented.
                    What I was driving at is it doesnt matter who took it, if it had been insured you'd get your money back. Might take a month or so but they pay.

                    "Never argue with a Slopchute. It will drag you down to its level and then beat you with experience." Maggot

                    "I watched a snail crawl along the edge of a straight razor. That's my dream. That's my nightmare. Crawling, slithering, along the edge of a straight... razor... and surviving." Col. Walter Kurtz, from Apocalypse Now

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by MTFalconer View Post
                      I don't have an address, I literally live so far off the postal route that the closest mail box to me is about 5 miles. I get a free PO box they cannot service my area for mail. Therefore I can't ship anything from home, no matter if I meter it and do everything myself I still have to take it to a service provider.
                      Im sorry for your trouble and loss, but your first and second sentence in this post has made me jealous! That's good livin' right there.

                      Universal means it don't fit nothin'.

                      Sometimes free ain't cheap enough.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by tnichols View Post

                        Im sorry for your trouble and loss, but your first and second sentence in this post has made me jealous! That's good livin' right there.
                        What's really funny is the land that I live on was originally divided to be a ranch subdivision. 10 acre tracts. They built a road up the mountain 2 miles long and had phone line and DSL run all the way to the top. No one bought in and eventually it was all sold to a outlet of cabella's to potentially build a resort up here with cabins for ski and hunting trips. Cabela's downsized their resort program and the whole project was scrapped. It sat idle for about 12 years and my real estate agent found out about it and contacted me. I made a ridiculously lowball offer on the available tracts and they took it. I ended up getting essentially a private mountain for less than 1k an acre. There were some of the tracts that sold and folks built cabins up here but they are only summer use. We are the only full time residents. No postal route was ever assigned, no services other than phone and DSL. It's heaven.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by MTFalconer View Post

                          What's really funny is the land that I live on was originally divided to be a ranch subdivision. 10 acre tracts. They built a road up the mountain 2 miles long and had phone line and DSL run all the way to the top. No one bought in and eventually it was all sold to a outlet of cabella's to potentially build a resort up here with cabins for ski and hunting trips. Cabela's downsized their resort program and the whole project was scrapped. It sat idle for about 12 years and my real estate agent found out about it and contacted me. I made a ridiculously lowball offer on the available tracts and they took it. I ended up getting essentially a private mountain for less than 1k an acre. There were some of the tracts that sold and folks built cabins up here but they are only summer use. We are the only full time residents. No postal route was ever assigned, no services other than phone and DSL. It's heaven.
                          Perfect!

                          Universal means it don't fit nothin'.

                          Sometimes free ain't cheap enough.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by MTFalconer View Post
                            I don't have an address, I literally live so far off the postal route that the closest mail box to me is about 5 miles. I get a free PO box they cannot service my area for mail. Therefore I can't ship anything from home, no matter if I meter it and do everything myself I still have to take it to a service provider.
                            lucky Mother fucker. I am Soooooo Jealous.
                            Do the right thing, regardless of the cost.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by MTFalconer View Post

                              What's really funny is the land that I live on was originally divided to be a ranch subdivision. 10 acre tracts. They built a road up the mountain 2 miles long and had phone line and DSL run all the way to the top. No one bought in and eventually it was all sold to a outlet of cabella's to potentially build a resort up here with cabins for ski and hunting trips. Cabela's downsized their resort program and the whole project was scrapped. It sat idle for about 12 years and my real estate agent found out about it and contacted me. I made a ridiculously lowball offer on the available tracts and they took it. I ended up getting essentially a private mountain for less than 1k an acre. There were some of the tracts that sold and folks built cabins up here but they are only summer use. We are the only full time residents. No postal route was ever assigned, no services other than phone and DSL. It's heaven.
                              I repeat what I said x10000
                              Do the right thing, regardless of the cost.

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by 2ndamendfan View Post

                                lucky Mother fucker. I am Soooooo Jealous.
                                My place is always open, folks are welcome anytime. More deer than I can ever shoot and the ELK walk through like they own the place. Constantly fucking with my dogs....

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by MTFalconer View Post

                                  You know you are absolutely right, how dare I blame USPS for obviously and blatantly opening a box and stealing from me. The report my postmaster gave me indicating is was exactly POSTAL THEFT is also something that could have been prevented.

                                  Ya because UPS, FedEx, and DHL employees NEVER steal from their customers. Good luck with that.

                                  On the other hand, I truly envy your living situation. Lucky SOB.....LOL

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                                  • #18
                                    I only ship USPS and they would pick up from my last job also. We quit using UPS as the drivers would always throw package off truck and then we would get charged double. FedEx is 3 times amount of UPS also!!
                                    Gun less..........

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                                    • #19
                                      Can I come live with you I will trade you a beach house for your mountain house.......lol

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by Palmetto-Pride View Post
                                        Can I come live with you I will trade you a beach house for your mountain house.......lol
                                        I have offered to give people an acre of land up here if they will come up and build. Surprisingly no one has taken me up on it. Being a mountain man is kind of like being a Viking. Everyone wants to be one until it's time to do Viking shit. When the snow blows in here three feet deep and it's -40 outside, no one wants to be a mountain man anymore.

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                                        • #21
                                          Originally posted by MTFalconer View Post
                                          When the snow blows in here three feet deep and it's -40 outside, no one wants to be a mountain man anymore.
                                          Exactly!

                                          I love the isolation but in a warmer climate. I had a place like you have but out in the Texas Hill Country.


                                          "Never argue with a Slopchute. It will drag you down to its level and then beat you with experience." Maggot

                                          "I watched a snail crawl along the edge of a straight razor. That's my dream. That's my nightmare. Crawling, slithering, along the edge of a straight... razor... and surviving." Col. Walter Kurtz, from Apocalypse Now

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                                          • #22
                                            Montana is the last best place for a reason. There is still about five times more public land than private land. In my county, which is 280 square miles there are 1600 residents. Do the math on that. Basically what that means is if you are out hunting or whatever and something happens, you're on your own. You won't see another car or person, possibly for days until some rancher happens by that way. One two lane highway through the entire county. When I say we are remote, I wasn't kidding...LOL

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                                            • #23
                                              You know there are only two states I have not visited. Alaska and Montana. Sounds like I saved the best for last. I love to hunt and fish. Sounds like I need to come out and visit. H understand the harsh winters but there is something magical about the Western states and the openness. I love it.

                                              Irish

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                                              • #24
                                                Originally posted by MTFalconer View Post

                                                I have offered to give people an acre of land up here if they will come up and build. Surprisingly no one has taken me up on it. Being a mountain man is kind of like being a Viking. Everyone wants to be one until it's time to do Viking shit. When the snow blows in here three feet deep and it's -40 outside, no one wants to be a mountain man anymore.
                                                what is there to do for work? i hate living in PA.

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                                                • #25
                                                  Originally posted by corey4 View Post

                                                  what is there to do for work? i hate living in PA.
                                                  That's sort of the rub, there are jobs in Great falls an hour or so drive away. Other than that there is ranch work or some small businesses. There is a 3800 employee processing plant being built outside of town. That would be a good gig. I work from home so it's no matter to me but commuting distances in winter here is tough. Especially if it's an every day gig.

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