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  • The Woodchuck and Firewood Hoarders Thread

    It seems as though at least a few of us share a second addiction of chainsaws, log splitters (thanks to you wonderfully generous deplorables), firewood hoarding and stacking, and in general just making trees our bitches.

    tnichols and I are both on at least one other forum specific to this field, but like us with precision rifles, the guys over there are maniacs for this shit. You can't ask a simple chainsaw question without the general consensus instantly being that you have to have a custom-built pro saw ( and many of them) for every application. I figured there might be some fun in those of us who don't make a daily living at it (with the possible exception of oneshot86 earning his Natty Light money) just sharing some knowledge and pictures of our setups.

    I'm also WAY overdue in following up on Splitzilla's status, so this is as good a place as any.

    I know we've got pics related to this spread all over "what's my view" and a few other threads, but feel free to duplicate / consolidate them here as you see fit.

    So come on 1J04 , MtnCreek MontanaMarine , vh20 , sirhrmechanic, Tucker301 , and all the folks I've seen post up homestead pics, but apologetically can't remember all the user names. Show Off Your Wood!!!!
    Last edited by bogeybrown; 12-27-2017, 10:52 PM.
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  • Originally posted by ajv35XX View Post
    Anyone tried running the Tru-Fuel stuff in the aluminum cans in their saws? They have it in both 40:1 and 50:1 and was looking at it vs having to mix gas
    I’ve never tried any of the canned fuels purely because of the cost.
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    • I've used husqvarna premix, but wouldn't use the trufuel brand because I don't know the quality of their oil. The oil is the most important part. I typically only use stihl or husqvarna oil in saws, but have used redmax a few times because I had some that I bought when buying trimmers / blowers.

      Edit: Find a station that sells real gas and keep a lot of it put up. Rotate it out using it for mowing or filling atv's. A good stock of gas may come in handy one day!

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      • Originally posted by ajv35XX View Post
        Anyone tried running the Tru-Fuel stuff in the aluminum cans in their saws? They have it in both 40:1 and 50:1 and was looking at it vs having to mix gas
        I ran one gallon of it through my saws while transitioning from pump gas to Husky premix. In the back of my mind it is the only "unknown" as the mechanic is working on my 455 trying to find an explanation for a scored piston in a 5 month old saw. I know for sure that my own mix was right, and used Husky oil, and they did a fuel test on the saw when I brought it in which came out fine (Husky premix). The only fuel that went through that saw that could've been jacked up was the TruFuel.

        Im in no way saying that the TruFuel was to blame, as we haven't found the cause of the damage yet. He'll be doing pressure and vac testing this week with the hopes of finding a definitive cause to report back to Husqvarna for the warranty repair. If, however, he can't find a factory defect, all I'm left with as a possible culprit is the TruFuel.

        Thanks to the "Pure Gas" website that MtnCreek posted up, I think I've found a station near me selling 91 octane real gas. Before that all I could find was 87, so I've been running Husky Fuel (95 octane), which I get at about $20 gallon (nice discount from full retail). I like the recipe that tnichols posted up, and may see what the airport down the road would charge me for a gallon of 100LL to try out that mixture in the future.

        I'll say that once the damage was discovered to that new saw, it was a huge peace of mind to know that it was factory fuel mix in the tank. The mechanic also made it a point of documenting that the saw was well maintained with a clean filter, proper tune within factory limits, and no signs at all of abuse or misuse. Now I just need him to find that damn leak
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        • Fuel story from last summer. I keep a dedicated fuel can just for 100LL. It is clearly marked. It had about 4 gallons in it the last time I had blended fuel. Out of the blue one day, Miss Lori asked me, "What is one zero zero L L ?" I replied that its $8 per gallon Av Gas and not to be used. I exaggerated the price to keep her mitts off it. Couple weeks later, I go to blend some fuel, and my 100LL can was full of wreaking car gas. I suspect she had dumped 100LL in her JD X320 mower and then after asking me tried covering her tracks by filling my can and hoping I wouldn't notice. I grew up around 80/87, 110/130, and 100LL. Can't fool me. I never said anything about, just put bigger warnings on my 100LL can for the future. Would have been a good day running her mower though, getting a whiff of that aromatic exhaust smell.
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          • Originally posted by tnichols View Post
            Fuel story from last summer. I keep a dedicated fuel can just for 100LL. It is clearly marked. It had about 4 gallons in it the last time I had blended fuel. Out of the blue one day, Miss Lori asked me, "What is one zero zero L L ?" I replied that its $8 per gallon Av Gas and not to be used. I exaggerated the price to keep her mitts off it. Couple weeks later, I go to blend some fuel, and my 100LL can was full of wreaking car gas. I suspect she had dumped 100LL in her JD X320 mower and then after asking me tried covering her tracks by filling my can and hoping I wouldn't notice. I grew up around 80/87, 110/130, and 100LL. Can't fool me. I never said anything about, just put bigger warnings on my 100LL can for the future. Would have been a good day running her mower though, getting a whiff of that aromatic exhaust smell.
            That's funny man, I'll bet that mower was humming along. I had some asshat steal 3 five gallon fuel cans out of the bed of my truck in NOLA many years ago. I laughed all day at the thought of them pouring diesel into their car. I was tempted to put some more "bait" in the back of the truck after that.
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            • Bogey, one thing some of the "mechanics" don't check is ignition system. That will burn a two stroke down just as surely as a lean a/f ratio. The snowmobile dealer installed about a case of pistons, several jugs, and assorted paraphernalia in a Yamahaha triple of mine only to discover the ignition system was possessed.
              In this day and age all our small engines, especially two strokes burn C10 or C12 gas and get Royal Purple 2 cycle mix at 60:1
              The reason I do not run 100LL, it is formulated to burn fairly slowly as most piston driven aircraft engines turn less than 2800 rpm and cruise a lot lower than that. Ye olde Husky seems to prefer a bit faster pace. YMMV
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              • Originally posted by cav has been View Post
                Bogey, one thing some of the "mechanics" don't check is ignition system. That will burn a two stroke down just as surely as a lean a/f ratio. The snowmobile dealer installed about a case of pistons, several jugs, and assorted paraphernalia in a Yamahaha triple of mine only to discover the ignition system was possessed.
                In this day and age all our small engines, especially two strokes burn C10 or C12 gas and get Royal Purple 2 cycle mix at 60:1
                The reason I do not run 100LL, it is formulated to burn fairly slowly as most piston driven aircraft engines turn less than 2800 rpm and cruise a lot lower than that. Ye olde Husky seems to prefer a bit faster pace. YMMV
                Thanks man, that definitely helps if the search for a culprit doesn't turn up anything. Anything specific in the ignition system you found to be the big offender?
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                • I don't remember exactly. Those were a cdi IIRC, but I think boxes, stator and all were replaced. He may have paid for an exorcism and not told me. By that time he had pulled out most of his hair, contemplated having to pay for a lifetime supply of blood pressure meds for us both he bought me out of the sled and fixed it in the off season. This man is way above most 2 stroke parts changers and that ignition deal really had him puzzled as well as some of the folks at Yama.
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                  • My Husky has never seen anything but 100LL and Husqvarna 2 stroke oil. It still makes power like new after 18 years.
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                    • I am woefully short of firewood big enough to feed the new saw, but found a 24" long crotch of oak to noodle, just to see how she cuts. I also did some cross cuts on what rounds I could find, and let me say that this mamajamma will EAT! I was grinning like a jackass eating briars running this bitch.

                      YouTube didn't want to give me a link in the format that Veer explained for posting a thumbnail video, but I'll post up a short one just so tnichols gets to see a couple of chips fly out of 'er :

                      https://youtu.be/ibFPCg57wuI
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                      • Originally posted by bogeybrown View Post
                        I am woefully short of firewood big enough to feed the new saw, but found a 24" long crotch of oak to noodle, just to see how she eats. I also did some cross cuts on what rounds I could find, and let me say that this mamajamma will EAT! I was grinning like a jackass eating briars running this bitch.

                        YouTube didn't want to give me a link in the format that Veer explained for posting a thumbnail video, but I'll post up a short one just so tnichols gets to see a couple of chips fly out of 'er :

                        https://youtu.be/ibFPCg57wuI
                        I like it. The big saws sound nice as the “attempt” to idle. Love that broken staccato exhaust note. I always start the saw and set it down to allow it to warm up while I gear up. I’ll turn around and my 441 will have “walked” 10-15 feet away on frozen ground .

                        Thanks for posting the video.
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                        • Originally posted by tnichols View Post

                          I like it. The big saws sound nice as the “attempt” to idle. Love that broken staccato exhaust note. I always start the saw and set it down to allow it to warm up while I gear up. I’ll turn around and my 441 will have “walked” 10-15 feet away on frozen ground .

                          Thanks for posting the video.
                          That's my routine as well, and learned my lesson on the walking. Now I find a nice pile of sawdust to set them in to keep them in place. This one even has a "kickstand" at the bottom of the spikes to keep the bar raised off the ground when it's set down. I'd never seen that before, or if I have I don't remember it.

                          I mentally wrestled for quite a while about trading the 465 and coming out of pocket a decent chunk of extra money to upgrade. Those couple of cuts yesterday made me glad I did it, and the missus (who'd given me the 465) was in absolute awe of how powerful the 365 was in comparison to anything else she'd seen run. She gave me a huge thumbs up for trading in her present, which was a big load off of my conscience.
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                          • I hope your 365 does you well. Are you going to put a smaller bar on it for cutting smaller stuff or just use it for larger wood? Just the difference between 20" and 24" is noticeable on mine.

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                            • Originally posted by MtnCreek View Post
                              I hope your 365 does you well. Are you going to put a smaller bar on it for cutting smaller stuff or just use it for larger wood? Just the difference between 20" and 24" is noticeable on mine.
                              If the 455 survives its visit at the shop it'll continue to wear a 20" full time. I've got a 435 and a couple of 145's for small stuff. In buying the 365 it was only $20 more to get the 28" bar and the chain of my choosing, so I got it that way with a plan of grabbing a 24" for it in the near future. The last saw I really want and have a need for is a top handle. If I can find one used at a solid price I'll be all set until I lose my mind and buy something else for no reason whatsoever, just like guns.
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                              • Buy the chain by the spool and save a bunch of bucks.

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                                • Treestuff.com is great for buying saw stuff

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                                  • I'm glad to find this thread, as I thought it was just me. My bride thinks I'm crazy with my chain saw wants. We have an outdoor wood stove as well as a wood stove in the living room (a free standing fireplace to the insurance company).
                                    I currently am using Dolmar saws. I do real estate appraising and the Dolmar dealer was building a new house, so when visiting with him he convinced me they were good saws and I bought one. I now have the 7910, the 7310, the 6421 and my wife has a 410. I still have a Stihl 260 pro, but it has seen little use after the Dolmars came into the picture.
                                    The 7310 was the first saw that I had bought new for a long time and for some reason I have kept track of the gas I run through it. Today I filled it up for the 69th time. About 90% of those fills were after it had run dry.
                                    I had some logging done last year and have been trying to get that cleaned up. The place needed the logging, but they left it looking like a bomb went off there.

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                                    • Any opinions on the Cannon brand of bars?

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                                      • Originally posted by packratt View Post
                                        Buy the chain by the spool and save a bunch of bucks.
                                        I've heard that. I'm not sure I'm quite at that stage yet, but now that I've got the 28" I'm much closer. I guess I'd have to commit to chisel or semi-chisel and just run it on all of them all of the time.

                                        missed , I've bounced around treestuff but haven't checked all of their categories. I usually end up at Baileys simply because they tend to have damn near everything and their selector tool for bars and chains is super handy. I'll take another look at treestuff.
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                                        • Yeah Bailey's is gtg also. I signed up with treestuff mailing list they send a coupon out periodically, with the coupons they have done pretty good on pricing, and fast cheap shipping. I do need to order a bar and some chain for my 346, I just buy chain loops as the price over a roll is minimal, and convenance not to have to jack with making loops.


                                          We are looking at the Quadrafire Voyager Grand with the cast iron surround for the new house. We have a Quadrafire i3100 step top stove in the current house. It's great, lots of heat, clean burning, no catalytic converter, but still low emissions.

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                                          • Thanks to all about the fuel choice. I’m gonna give the Husky mix a go, and then try to source the other mix that was previously mentioned.

                                            Ill throw in another mention for Bailey’s to get bars/chains/whatever else you may need. I just called them yesterday about a new bar and chains for my incoming Kusky and they were top notch. Got a 16 inch Oregon replaceable sprocket nose and pair of Woodland Pro chains for the 350 inbound

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                                            • Originally posted by Icallem View Post
                                              Any opinions on the Cannon brand of bars?
                                              Glad you found the thread as well. I still run all stock bars on my Stihls. Have not heard of Cannon. I see a far amount of Oregon bars around. I lust for a Sugihara but really don’t have a need. Maybe someday on the 441 to save a bit of weight.
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                                              • I buy a lot of stuff online, but still buy saw stuff from local dealers. I want them to stay in business so I can pick up things without waiting a few days on shipping.

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                                                • Originally posted by MtnCreek View Post
                                                  I buy a lot of stuff online, but still buy saw stuff from local dealers. I want them to stay in business so I can pick up things without waiting a few days on shipping.
                                                  That's an excellent point. My local shop is great and the people are top notch. Unlike a lot of horror stories I hear about the folks at dealerships, mine are incredibly friendly, remember me when I come in, custom order shit I've found online, and give me a price break where they can. If I can buy something from them I do. If I have a question or problem I can ask the folks up front or even go out back to the shop and talk to their mechanic.

                                                  I like the online sites for being able to do price and spec comparisons, find new items that aren't going to be on the shelf in a store, and that sort of thing. There's been a few things I found during online shopping that I've shown my local shop and asked to be ordered in and they were close enough on price that it was worth keeping my business local.

                                                  Sadly, a lot of places don't have good dealer support. There's also just some 3rd party gizmos that a factory dealer can't get ahold of because of licensing agreements or whatever. tnichols mentioned Sugihara bars as a good example. I'm currently looking for a combination peavey or cant hook / log jack and finding one I want at a dealer is about impossible. I'm about to make a materials list and see what a shop would charge me to make one, or let me make it myself with their equipment. I'm thinking I could put one together for less than the standard $100+ price tag I see on most.
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                                                  • Talk to me about protective pants/chaps. What type do you use, number of protective layers etc. My new saw kind of gives me the willies and I want to make sure I keep my legs intact.

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