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    For the 1911 officiados, I will be adding a 1911 to my collection in the near future. I am looking highly at either the:
    Colt Rail Gun
    Colt M45A1

    or

    Springfield Loaded 1911

    Uses will be for daily carry and use on the range

    I have an affliction for Colt seeing they are made in my home state, but the Springfields have always seemed decent to me.

    Thoughts?
    Last edited by ajv35XX; 07-03-2017, 07:47 PM.

  • #2
    Mine would be

    Colt Combat Commander RGZ.

    https://www.hinterlandoutfitters.com...z-p-74069.html

    I like the checkered front strap and the ball mill at the front of the slide. Sights look very user friendly.

    I have two Colts Commanders one LW and one steel I alternate carrying and they do just about everything the RGZ will do without the bling.

    I picked up one of the decommissioned MARSOC M45A1s - the dual recoil spring and extra weight make for a soft shooting 45.
    "...But they would never find anything to beat the old Springfield ...the long sleek streamline, very slim but with potent bulges, all in the just exactly right places to give it that pugnaciously forward-leaning, eager look that marked the Springfield. Beside it, the M1 looked like a fat old man puffing with a lack of training...the two most beautiful things made in America were the ax-handle and the clipper ship? ...they should have added one more thing: The Springfield '03 rifle..."

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    • #3
      Originally posted by pmclaine View Post
      Mine would be

      Colt Combat Commander RGZ.

      https://www.hinterlandoutfitters.com...z-p-74069.html

      I like the checkered front strap and the ball mill at the front of the slide. Sights look very user friendly.

      I have two Colts Commanders one LW and one steel I alternate carrying and they do just about everything the RGZ will do without the bling.

      I picked up one of the decommissioned MARSOC M45A1s - the dual recoil spring and extra weight make for a soft shooting 45.
      Thank you for the response sir. If I could afford one of the MARSOCs I would have one.

      Any specific reason why you suggest a commander vs a full size 1911?

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      • #4
        Depending on your stature, that 0.75" off the front makes concealed carry a little easier. I know it isn't one of your options, but I ended up with a Dan Wesson Guardian. Lovely little gun

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        • #5
          Look at the Colt Combat Unit.

          Pretty sure it's a Colt Rail gun with added checkering on the front strap.

          I like a grippy grip.
          Last edited by pmclaine; 07-06-2017, 08:21 AM.
          "...But they would never find anything to beat the old Springfield ...the long sleek streamline, very slim but with potent bulges, all in the just exactly right places to give it that pugnaciously forward-leaning, eager look that marked the Springfield. Beside it, the M1 looked like a fat old man puffing with a lack of training...the two most beautiful things made in America were the ax-handle and the clipper ship? ...they should have added one more thing: The Springfield '03 rifle..."

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          • #6
            Originally posted by SRPowah View Post
            Depending on your stature, that 0.75" off the front makes concealed carry a little easier. I know it isn't one of your options, but I ended up with a Dan Wesson Guardian. Lovely little gun
            Not just hiding it, but it seems to be a split second faster on the draw, too.

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            • #7
              In the opinion of the old head gunsmith for Detonics, Dan Wesson is making the best production 1911's currently.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by mrtoyz View Post
                In the opinion of the old head gunsmith for Detonics, Dan Wesson is making the best production 1911's currently.
                What makes them better then the Colts? I took a lot at what they offer, and am now adding one of their commander models into the mix

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ajv35XX View Post

                  Thank you for the response sir. If I could afford one of the MARSOCs I would have one.

                  Any specific reason why you suggest a commander vs a full size 1911?
                  Usually I like more sight radius and if this were an open carry service pistol Id go 5 inch barrel.

                  but....I carry my Commanders.

                  Im not a big guy, 5-8 or so, and can run 3 miles if tasked with doing so. The minus 3/4 inches makes the Commander a little bit easier to conceal.

                  I carry on a outside the WB Garret Industries Silent Thunder. It rides high on the belt and your typical bowling shirt covers it nicely.

                  You will pay for the concealability with a little bit of accuracy. Not much but some.
                  "...But they would never find anything to beat the old Springfield ...the long sleek streamline, very slim but with potent bulges, all in the just exactly right places to give it that pugnaciously forward-leaning, eager look that marked the Springfield. Beside it, the M1 looked like a fat old man puffing with a lack of training...the two most beautiful things made in America were the ax-handle and the clipper ship? ...they should have added one more thing: The Springfield '03 rifle..."

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ajv35XX View Post

                    What makes them better then the Colts? I took a lot at what they offer, and am now adding one of their commander models into the mix
                    He brought up 2 things:
                    Dan Wesson is using all billet components. There are no MIM (metal injection molding) parts.
                    In his opinion the fit and finish was the best of any production gun.

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                    • #11
                      You'll be fine with any of the choices. I personally like Springfield.

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                      • #12
                        I would add dan Wesson and sti to the list of nicer production guns too...

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                        • #13
                          There is an sti lawman (not sure of specifics as not mine) in the px and I have a dan Wesson in there too if you want pictures etc of what they are like.

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                          • #14
                            Sig Sauer makes a good 1911. They have plenty of compact models to choose from. In the end I went with a Full Size threaded barrel TacOps model.
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                            • #15
                              I am a Government proselyte, but really like the concept of a CCO
                              Two books every American should read:

                              The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations - Shaping the Moral, Spiritual, Cultural, and Political Decline of the United States of America (a free PDF)

                              The Creature From Jekyll Island - A Second look at the Federal Reserve (a free PDF)

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                              • #16
                                Isn't Springfield made in South America?

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                                • #17
                                  I had a Springfield lightweight operator. It was a nice gun. Very reliable and I could shoot some very tight groups with it, but... Those tight groups always hit higher than point of aim. I looked at getting a new front sight to correct but never could find a straight answer about what cut Springfield uses.

                                  I just traded the Springfield in on a Dan Wesson Valor. In my opinion, it is no more reliable or shootable than the Springfield. The trigger feels nicer when I dry fire it, but when I'm actually shooting I'm not sure I can tell a difference. It does hit where I am aiming it though, unlike the Springfield that I had to hold under. The fit and finish seem just a touch nicer on the Dan Wesson in my opinion.

                                  So, I think the Dan Wesson is a little bit nicer gun, but there is nothing at all wrong with a Springfield. You will be happy with either. Is the extra cost of a Dan Wesson worth it? Only you can answer that.

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                                  • #18
                                    I would save my pennies for a couple more months then look at a used Les Baer PII - even a new price from crazy John is still the best bang for your buck for a 1911. But then again, those you are considering are great pistols as well - depending upon your intended use, most 1911's might fill the bill.

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                                    • #19
                                      DW is the way to go. Skip the Colt. No checkering on the front strap. And the Springfields have a mushy safety (IMO). Dan Wessons are the tightest, best out of box triggers, best sights (rear hooks) and the quality is 100% better.

                                      My EDC is a DW Discretion that I had milled for a Trijicon RMR with the 1911 RMR plate. It is a tack driver and is 100% reliable.

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                                      • #20
                                        Sig Sauer, Dan Wesson, or Nighthawk Custom from $ to $$$
                                        Sigs are super hard to beat for the money.

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                                        • #21
                                          I aint ever buying springfield after their political bullshit in IL. I have a Wilson (1 of 100 of their 2011 special 100 year anniversary) and a Nighthawk. Both are awesome (but both are not cheap). Friend has a Kimber and a Sig Sauer - for the price awesome.

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                                          • #22
                                            I'll probably get crap, but I have had zero issues out my Kimber Stailness TLE/RL. That said I do not use it for EDV. Several thousand rounds through it with no issues at the range.

                                            I hear the Mimber rants online but know more than a few others who have Kimbers with no issues, still waiting to actually meet someone who's had issues with them.
                                            Last edited by Diesel64; 07-17-2017, 11:09 AM.

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                                            • #23
                                              I have a M45a1, Older Kimber raptor, Had sigs and smiths also. Lately I've been on the Wilson combat wagon with an EDC X9 on order. The M45A1 is definitely a softer shooting pistol. The Colt rail is almost the same mechanically without the dual recoil spring. I never had a problem with my M45A1. My Raptor had some issues starting at about 1500 rounds, Grip safety broke in half due to a casting error that screwed up my trigger and scraped the frame inside the mag well. Had to change trigger, grip safety and sand down the gouge in the mag well replaced them and recoil springs and other parts with Wilson Combat parts so it's basically a hybrid now. Smith and Wesson 1911's are a sweet deal, never had any problems except holding on to them. People just kept wanting to buy them from me. Sigs a pretty good also.

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                                              • #24
                                                I have 5 lb customs, 1 night hawk custom and a nastoff colt combat elite my favorite of them all is a lb custom light weight i have had them all and i bet my life on lb customs carry one every day save your money and buy one you wont be sorry i have bought 3 used for good prices one thing about finding them used is people buy them to say they have one never shoot them then sell them.

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