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  • The Effective Range and Programming the Bushnell ConX

    It's no secrete that I am a Champion of the Busnell ConX, with me this has grown as each week passes, Because I keep discovering new hidden Gems in what many people see as a fairly ordinary LRF,Which could not be further from the truth, There are multiple ways that a person can use the ConX But by far the coolest way is when you pair it with the ConX App, Anyways onward and upward,

    If you down load the ConX App and pair the ConX to your phone or Tablet, tap the App and select Gun 1 2 or 3, In the App they are Called Custom 1, 2 or 3, Sellect the bullet and then the box opens up, type in your Zero and then add the drop IE at 200 yards and then at 400 and then at 800 etc,,, Next to each distance which you choose you add the Bullet drop in the Box to the right of that range, the factory settings are Zero = 100 then 200 and 300 and 400 and 500 and 600 BUT you can change them to 100 Zero 200 400 800 1100 and say 1500, You Pick the distances and add your Bullets Drop and then click save,

    If you enter a distance that is beyond what that Bullet is good for then it will tell you, So take off 200 yards and try it if it works then add 50 yards and then go up in 10 yard steps and if that works just keep going until you have reached the maximum And then go back by 10 yards so it accepts the range and then go up in ONE yards steps that way you will find the exact limit that the ConX App will Allow for that particular Bullet, The manual says that it works to a 1000 yards but that is not right because it works in line with either the BC or the Drop factor, I know this is some messing around But the purpose of doing this is to find the Absolute Maximum Range for that Bullet within the ConX App,

    If the Green light changes colour on the screen just hit the range button on the ConX and it will link up again, and when your done hit SAVE and then it is loaded in to the ConX and you will not need the App/Phone again. there are no barrel Twists or FPS or scope heights etc etc to add that is all you have to do, Just Type in the distance and the drop at each range of your choice and save it when all boxes are filled. That's It, nothing else is needed.

    HERE are two Bullets I did this with and this proves that where the manual says it works out to a 1000 yards is not quite correct, The Range of the ConX App is more related to either the BC or the Drop over certain distances as you can see below, And I think that the range of the ConX App stated in the Manual etc is most likely based on a standard .308 bullet running at 2600 +/- fps and according to my preferred App the RDF is starting to Go transonic at around1075 yards @1243.3 fps AND The 7mm Dakota starts to enter the Transonic range at around 1650 @ 1244.9 fps or somewhere close to that,

    PLEASE NOTE that the APP seems to stop where Both Bullets reach a velocity of around 1243.3 fps and 1244.9 fps,

    HERES a thought I wonder how far the App would work if the two Bullets were based on the 22-250 and the 220 Swift because by time they slowed down to 1244 fps they would be in the next County, LOL.

    .308 Win RDF G7 .27,,,, AT 2740 fps ZERO @ 100, ,, 200 yards with a drop of 3.3 inches, 400 yards with a drop of 28.62", 800 yards = 183.91", 1000 yards = 339.44" and 1180 yards = 545.8"

    7mm Dakota, 3049fps BC 0,674 G1

    ZERO 200 yards, 400 yards = 16.7", 800 yards = 121.9",.1000 yards = 222.2", 1400 yards = 562.4" and 1595 yards = 819.4"

    Any way folks I hope this helped and put minds at ease about Bushnells ( ONLY ) 1000 yard Claim, but it really does go further,

    Take Care and Have fun.

    John.
    Last edited by MilDot1960; 06-21-2017, 06:41 PM.
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  • #76
    Make sure the units match. If the distances are yards, make sure the conx is set to yards.
    The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne
    "Do not pray for an easy life, acquire the strength to endure a difficult one" -Bruce Lee

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    • #77
      Originally posted by TacticalDillhole View Post
      Make sure the units match. If the distances are yards, make sure the conx is set to yards.
      Mine sets it's self to what ever I click on in the App, I tried to fool it by setting the ConX to metres and it changed it back, Lol.

      John.
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      • #78
        I've got an older android phone and it can't even find the app in the store. The only thing bushnell its returning is the trial cam app. Tried it with my daughters newer iPhone and it still won't accept the numbers. Look like I'm stuck to 1000 and under which isn't a big deal. I'll use the kestrel mostly anyway to get the correction.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by MDM View Post
          I've got an older android phone and it can't even find the app in the store. The only thing bushnell its returning is the trial cam app. Tried it with my daughters newer iPhone and it still won't accept the numbers. Look like I'm stuck to 1000 and under which isn't a big deal. I'll use the kestrel mostly anyway to get the correction.
          Ok mate I will try and find the App for you,

          John.
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          • #80
            Originally posted by MDM View Post
            I've got an older android phone and it can't even find the app in the store. The only thing bushnell its returning is the trial cam app. Tried it with my daughters newer iPhone and it still won't accept the numbers. Look like I'm stuck to 1000 and under which isn't a big deal. I'll use the kestrel mostly anyway to get the correction.
            Here ya go mate,

            John.

            https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...m.bushnell.lrf
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            • #81
              Thanks, but it won't install on the phone. Says it isn't a compatible device. Its an old Samsung phone 6 years anyway. It isn't compatible with an older galaxy tab 3 tablet either.
              Last edited by MDM; 07-17-2017, 01:54 PM.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by MDM View Post
                Thanks, but it won't install on the phone. Says it isn't a compatible device. Its an old Samsung phone 6 years anyway. It isn't compatible with an older galaxy tab 3 tablet either.
                Yep I had the same issue which is why I bought the Galaxy Note 3, It won't load on my Galaxy Note 1 or my Galaxy Ace and nor will it load on my Nexus 7 Tablet which is the first model they bought out that runs 4.4 I think.

                John.
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                • #83
                  Well I just bought one of these from Brownells and I went to Bushnell's website to look at all of the bullet combinations that you can put in to the range finder. I am using a Sierra 210 grain matchking with a ballistic coefficient of .61. There is nothing in their catalog that comes close with the exception of going up to a 220 grain match king. I looked at Berger and Hornady for something that comes close to no avail. Does anyone know if you can manually enter your bullet data into the range finder if it is not in the Bushnell catalog?

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by GhostFace View Post
                    Well I just bought one of these from Brownells and I went to Bushnell's website to look at all of the bullet combinations that you can put in to the range finder. I am using a Sierra 210 grain matchking with a ballistic coefficient of .61. There is nothing in their catalog that comes close with the exception of going up to a 220 grain match king. I looked at Berger and Hornady for something that comes close to no avail. Does anyone know if you can manually enter your bullet data into the range finder if it is not in the Bushnell catalog?
                    You don't need to enter your data the way you would with an App, Read the first post in this thread and any of the other post on how to program in it this thread and you will be able to customize the ConX Data to suit your Rifle and Load.

                    John.
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                    • #85
                      Gotcha Karma I guess I have to wait until it arrives on Tuesday. I was just trying to get ahead of the game

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by GhostFace View Post
                        Gotcha Karma I guess I have to wait until it arrives on Tuesday. I was just trying to get ahead of the game
                        Well Bushnell's Bullet charts work within 6" or less most of the time they are within 1 to 2 inches but you have to pick the one that suits your 300 yard range or your 500 yard range, If you load your drop data of your setup in to the FREE ConX App as I have listed then your ConX will match your Rifle to within 0.01 to 0.03" of an inch, And it will be as accurate as your input data, So the more accurate you input the more accurate the ConX will be,

                        John.
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                        • #87
                          Copy, thanks

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                          • #88
                            Any tricks for getting it to connect to the app? I'm using a Google Pixel with android 7.1. It'll show up, I can click on it to connect, then 30 seconds later, "unable to connect". I tried pairing through the Bluetooth settings and same issue.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by SDet View Post
                              Any tricks for getting it to connect to the app? I'm using a Google Pixel with android 7.1. It'll show up, I can click on it to connect, then 30 seconds later, "unable to connect". I tried pairing through the Bluetooth settings and same issue.
                              No mate, Just hit the range button on the ConX and click the button on the App, and one paired the ConX will automatically link up with your phone, It really is a blast to use and so simple,

                              Good Luck,

                              John.
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                              • #90
                                Well, I ended up syncing it with my tablet. So loaded some data and played in the neighborhood, looks good. Excited to get it to the range.

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                                • #91
                                  Originally posted by SDet View Post
                                  Well, I ended up syncing it with my tablet. So loaded some data and played in the neighborhood, looks good. Excited to get it to the range.
                                  It's quite amazing how fast it talks to the Tablet or Phone, The come ups are on the screen faster than you can look from the ConX to the Tab/Phone.

                                  well done and have fun.

                                  John.
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                                  • #92
                                    I tried getting more information off Bushnell's web site. Is it lacking, or am I just not finding any real detail on the site?

                                    One question I did not see answered - do I need to use a mobile device to connect to the ConX, or can I use a PC? Both my phone and iPad are supplied by my work, and putting "personal" apps on them is discouraged. Which leads to the next question - if it can work from a PC (Windows 10), does it require bluetooth, or will it work off a USB cable?

                                    These next items I think I understand, but would just like to clarify:
                                    First off, I have ColdBore on my laptop. So I have a good ballistic calculator. But right now, there is no Kestral/Coldbore interface for the ConX, correct?

                                    If I stay with the Kestral I have now (no bluetooth or ballistics) - I would have to use the 3 custom ballistic entries to put in three different DA settings for the gun I am using on a given day. Use my Kestral to know the DA, select the right gun, and go to work with the ConX. Sound right, or am I missing something?

                                    If I upgrade to the Kestral with bluetooth and AB, do you need the full version of AB to get the most out of it? I'm guessing that if I go this route, it is a huge duplication of effort between the AB and the Coldbore?

                                    I've read this thread a few times, and searched the Bushnell web site, but these answers didn't jump out at me.

                                    Thanks!

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                                    • #93
                                      Originally posted by sled_mack View Post
                                      I tried getting more information off Bushnell's web site. Is it lacking, or am I just not finding any real detail on the site?

                                      One question I did not see answered - do I need to use a mobile device to connect to the ConX, or can I use a PC? Both my phone and iPad are supplied by my work, and putting "personal" apps on them is discouraged. Which leads to the next question - if it can work from a PC (Windows 10), does it require bluetooth, or will it work off a USB cable?

                                      These next items I think I understand, but would just like to clarify:
                                      First off, I have ColdBore on my laptop. So I have a good ballistic calculator. But right now, there is no Kestral/Coldbore interface for the ConX, correct?

                                      If I stay with the Kestral I have now (no bluetooth or ballistics) - I would have to use the 3 custom ballistic entries to put in three different DA settings for the gun I am using on a given day. Use my Kestral to know the DA, select the right gun, and go to work with the ConX. Sound right, or am I missing something?

                                      If I upgrade to the Kestral with bluetooth and AB, do you need the full version of AB to get the most out of it? I'm guessing that if I go this route, it is a huge duplication of effort between the AB and the Coldbore?

                                      I've read this thread a few times, and searched the Bushnell web site, but these answers didn't jump out at me.

                                      Thanks!
                                      1) Yes you do need a mobile device IE a cell phone or Tablet etc and I have not seen anything about connecting it to a PC, but a cheap modern Cell will do the job just fine.

                                      2) No that's right there is no Coldbore interface.

                                      3) Yes you could load 3 curves that have 3 different DA readings in to each of the Gun 1,2,3 / Custom 1, 2, or 3.

                                      4) No you do not need the full blown version of AB, The Kestrel Sportsman has/is loaded with a Lite version of AB already which you can get updated to the full blown version so it will be the same as the Kestrel Elite.

                                      hope that helps and if you need more help, just call,

                                      good luck.

                                      John.
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                                      • #94
                                        John - thanks for the quick response.

                                        As far as the version of AB, I was really thinking of a PC based version like ColdBore. But I really don't know what they offer, so I need to dig into that a bit more. I hate to throw away my investment in ColdBore (time and data collection more so than $), and I hate to duplicate efforts. So I need to dig deeper into the AB side of things.

                                        One last clarification - If I have the Kestral with AB linked to the range finder, and I've got my specific load data in the Kestral - the ConX will give me solution data based on current environmental conditions, correct? The idea of being able to take a step out of the process from reading yardage then going to another device or range card is appealing.

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                                        • #95
                                          Originally posted by sled_mack View Post
                                          John - thanks for the quick response.

                                          As far as the version of AB, I was really thinking of a PC based version like ColdBore. But I really don't know what they offer, so I need to dig into that a bit more. I hate to throw away my investment in ColdBore (time and data collection more so than $), and I hate to duplicate efforts. So I need to dig deeper into the AB side of things.

                                          One last clarification - If I have the Kestral with AB linked to the range finder, and I've got my specific load data in the Kestral - the ConX will give me solution data based on current environmental conditions, correct? The idea of being able to take a step out of the process from reading yardage then going to another device or range card is appealing.
                                          It would give you the elevation hold only in the LRF, you still need to either look at the kestrel or figure yourself for wind.
                                          The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne
                                          "Do not pray for an easy life, acquire the strength to endure a difficult one" -Bruce Lee

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                                          • #96
                                            Any of you guys running an AB Kestrel with this? I was wondering how that was going. Will the conx display the solution from AB?
                                            You're stronger than you think.

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                                            • #97
                                              Originally posted by DMascari18 View Post
                                              Any of you guys running an AB Kestrel with this? I was wondering how that was going. Will the conx display the solution from AB?
                                              See my post right above yours
                                              The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne
                                              "Do not pray for an easy life, acquire the strength to endure a difficult one" -Bruce Lee

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                                              • #98
                                                The answer is always right in front of my face.
                                                You're stronger than you think.

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                                                • #99
                                                  So, a little feedback from using it at a match yesterday.

                                                  Mid day sun with terrible mirage, it'll range a 12x24" steel plate at 700, trees at more than 900.

                                                  Having your dope on your range finder is awesome. 2 moa plates to 600 or so in similar conditions.

                                                  This was mostly off hand. So far I'm happy

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                                                  • I picked one of these up recently. My biggest question is what do you do to keep your phone or other device from overheating? Most phones want to overheat when outside in the summer heat, and that's just sitting there.
                                                    You're stronger than you think.

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