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  • AX Rear Upgrade Kit for AT rifles

    What do you think ?

    https://www.sportingservices.co.uk/c...ar-upgrade-kit
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  • #2
    Ha. Buddy sent me the link and I posted it on bolt action forum. Didn’t check to see if someone had posted it....

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    • #3
      $900 at current exchange rate, and you'd need to unbond the stock from the chassis to install it and then rebond. On another thread https://forum.snipershide.com/forum/...ional-at-rifle someone working for AI UK had this done to his AT, and one of the AI reps on here said that AI (might) be offering such a kit for sale if there was enough interest.

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      • #4
        All good.

        What do you think ? We knew it was never going to be a cheap option. I just wish the user could install it. Sending my rifle in sucks.
        “For God and country – Geronimo, Geronimo, Geronimo”

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        • #5
          Would it work for AE MK 3/2 ?
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          • #6
            A few months ago, Tom Irwin from Accuracy International said they had "approved" offering a kit that would be installed by Mile High Shooting. He said that he would have the details for us all after his vacation (May 2017). There was lots of interest!

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            • #7
              Nik, he might have had a long holiday :-)

              Did you see the link above. It is available.
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              • #8
                I just did. Initially I thought it was an aftermarket solution but it seems they are rolling it out over there first so maybe it will be here soon. I would really like to do it but want to be sure that the unbonding and bonding is done in an authorized way. My AT is like a laser and don't want to screw with that.

                Tom did say it was going to be expensive so I am not surprised about the cost. It is also folding to the right which is like my present AT Left Hand so that is good as well.

                My wallet will hurt once again I guess. It is up for a major hurt this week as I am pulling the trigger on a NF 7-35 with the MIL-C reticle. Haven't done it yet but shopping for price now. Hopefully, this is a few months away from release here.

                Thanks for posting it
                It’s not how fast you go; it’s how long you can go fast

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                • #9
                  I figured it would be around $600 which I was willing to pay but no way I will spend $900 on a buttstock. I'd be better off selling the chassis and then buying a post 2014 AX chassis. I just added an adjustable buttstock to my pre14 AX, I can live with it. Plus I have a badger bolt knob and I'm not sure if a right folding stock would work for me.

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                  • #10
                    Not to stir the pot with ideas but anyone also have any inside knowledge as to possibility of an M-lok Forend for the AX ?

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                    • #11
                      Since this appears to be complete with a hinge assembly does anyone know if this will work on a non folder AT? I've never had the skins off one to see if the chassis portion is solid front to back on the non folders or not.

                      I personally don't think the price is bad for what it is, there's a lot of machining and individual parts that make up the PSR/AX butt and AI and their distributors/dealers have to be able to make money too. Consider this:

                      1. This has a folding hinge which is a $400 option alone on an AT plus you're getting the PSR butt, that's only a $500 difference at that point. If this will work on a non folding AT that's a very cost effective solution.

                      2. If non folding stocks can be converted and someone already owns an AT folder and wants this, your stock will have a market for resale to someone who purchased a non folder and then realized the benefits of the folder

                      3. Again assuming non folding stocks could have this installed, retail for a base AT + the converted price from sporting services (not factoring any import fees, taxes, or discounts) puts an AT + the part just under $5K which is over $2K less than the retail of an AX (about $2400 under actually). That's still a huge savings to get you the PSR/AX but which is a major feature on the AX's.

                      If the conversion won't work on non folders however and someone is buying new anyway this upgrade is about 1/2 of the cost difference between a loaded AT and a AX at street price. At that point I'd still spend the extra cash for the AX and get the Bartlein barrel and the AX forend as well.

                      If I already owned a AT folder, I'd be doing this conversion. The AX butt's features are extremely beneficial to me for shooting off different supports.

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                      • #12
                        Excellent points...all we need is the announcement
                        It’s not how fast you go; it’s how long you can go fast

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                        • #13
                          No go for MK 3.
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                          • #14
                            I talked to Adam @ MHSA yesterday,

                            They don't know anything about doing this upgrade, so for right now, they are prepared to address this
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                            • #15
                              Realistically the cost of the stock should be ~20% less for export. Even if you had to get the AT folder, assuming labor isn't prohibitively expensive, you'd be ahead. Several hundred dollars labor wouldn't be unheard of, but I don't know what all is involved in the bonding/unbonding of the action and chassis.

                              I guess what it comes down to is do you want an AX rifle or do you want an AT rifle with PSR buttstock and not so much the possible cost savings. Personally I don't like the look of the AX forend, but it can provide some meaningful value...but I echo the sentiment of desire for an MLOK replacement.

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                              • #16
                                I think a rapid adjustment buttstock such as this is very useful for a rifle that has multiple users. Since I'm the only one that shoots my AT, once I got it adjusted for me, I have no need to change it.

                                Now the appearance of the AX stock is very cool...the utility to single user rifles, not so much.

                                YMMV,

                                Harry

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                                • #17
                                  Reliable sources say it will work on a fixed stock AT
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                                  • #18
                                    One additional cost and hassle to consider will be possibly needing a new tall rail or taller rings for your AT. The AX buttstock is designed to work with the tall continuous rail of the AX, which then needs 1.35-1.50" tall rings for 56mm scopes to clear.

                                    On my AX I use a 1.50" Spuhr mount for my G2 Razor. For my face, where the cheekpiece is adjusted I have approximately 0.25" of available downward adjustment. That means on an AT with the low rail I would need to run a 1.50" mount to use the AX buttstock - and the cheekpiece would be bottomed out.

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by Wyfox View Post
                                      Reliable sources say it will work on a fixed stock AT
                                      I would buy a fixed stock AT just to do this to it, but then having two short actions would be kinda dumb wouldn't it?

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by samb300 View Post
                                        One additional cost and hassle to consider will be possibly needing a new tall rail or taller rings for your AT. The AX buttstock is designed to work with the tall continuous rail of the AX, which then needs 1.35-1.50" tall rings for 56mm scopes to clear.

                                        On my AX I use a 1.50" Spuhr mount for my G2 Razor. For my face, where the cheekpiece is adjusted I have approximately 0.25" of available downward adjustment. That means on an AT with the low rail I would need to run a 1.50" mount to use the AX buttstock - and the cheekpiece would be bottomed out.
                                        Yo Sam,

                                        Good to see you here again. That is something I had not considered. Your AI spigot replacement is going strong!
                                        It’s not how fast you go; it’s how long you can go fast

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                                        • #21
                                          Does the hinge on the AX's bother anyone?

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                                          • #22
                                            Originally posted by lukejr985 View Post
                                            Does the hinge on the AX's bother anyone?
                                            Just guessing here but.................................they lock rock solid.
                                            "Blessed be the LORD my strength which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight," Psalms 144:1

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                                            • #23
                                              i didn't explain myself well enough, does the hinge get in the way of peoples hand, in the way of your firing grip?

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                                              • #24
                                                Originally posted by lukejr985 View Post
                                                i didn't explain myself well enough, does the hinge get in the way of peoples hand, in the way of your firing grip?
                                                Negative...................(at least for me anyway.)
                                                "Blessed be the LORD my strength which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight," Psalms 144:1

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                                                • #25
                                                  Originally posted by lukejr985 View Post
                                                  i didn't explain myself well enough, does the hinge get in the way of peoples hand, in the way of your firing grip?
                                                  Honestly, when I was contemplating going from the AT to the AX, I wondered the same thing since I cycle the bolt by camming over the top of the stock with my thumb. I have had zero issues with the hinge getting in the way with the AX.

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