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  • 6mm Dasher

    20" 1:8 Hawk Hill

    107gr SMK
    32.4gr Varget
    Lapua FF'd Brass
    CCI-450

    2801fps
    My Savage 110 long action 223AI

    223AI/90gr Berger VLD


    "Everybody says 'buy once Cry once' then tells a guy to start on a 308?" - Jon Lester

  • #26
    Got a chance to test the load out today at the range. Loaded a bunch of rounds on the Dillon 550 as a true progressive with thrown powder charges. Final load of 29.2 XBR grouped under 1/4 MOA for a 5 shot group and held an SD of 8. I'm blown away by how good the Dasher is.

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    • #27
      These are impressive velocities with the heavies. I may have to convert my 6BR

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      • #28
        Dang, I'm so excited to find the node for my 6 Dasher Norma. Been traveling to much lately to get to the range and start development.

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        • #29
          Lapua Brass, No Turn - 110gr SMK, 31.6gr of H4895 - 2930 fps ....
          Lapua Brass, No Turn - 105 JLK or Berger Hybrids, 31.8gr of H4895 - 2960 fps

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          • #30
            32.9 gr. of Varget, moving 105's at 2,987 fps, DA is ~2,500'. All SD's are either 3 or 4 fps after 10 shots!

            I just ordered some 110 smk's to try just for fun. Anybody have much distance feedback on these yet?
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            • #31
              Hitting the prairie dog towns in 2 weeks.
              70gr Blitzkings @3600fps and 105 Amax's @2975. 70 grainers are staying together in a 7.5T barrel,,,0ver 300k RPM

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              • #32
                Quick update and thread bump. Took my 105 Hornady BTHP practice dasher load out to distance this weekend, shooting an IPSC at 1225 yards. Muzzle velocity of 2800 fps meant that these were well subsonic by the time they got out there, but we were still hitting 70% impacts across three shooters (one of whom was not experienced). The 105 BHTP seems to transition pretty well and the fact that the powder charges were thrown on a Dillon press didn't seem to create any major problems with vertical.

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                • #33
                  110 SMK 5 thou off
                  Norma Brass (sucks BTW)
                  CCI 450
                  31.0 Varget
                  2870 FPS

                  I'm in AZ and it's hot as balls here now so you can probably go up another 1-1.5gr and be safe.

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                  • #34
                    24" Brux 4-Groove 7.5t, .271 no-turn Neck

                    110 SMK 3 thou off light touch
                    Lapua Brass, false shoulder and shoot
                    CCI 450
                    30.5gr H4895
                    2825 FPS

                    This happens to be in a timed node that is giving me 5 shot groups ~.125 @100yd, you can go faster with less accuracy.

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                    • #35
                      Originally posted by Sheldon N View Post
                      Quick update and thread bump. Took my 105 Hornady BTHP practice dasher load out to distance this weekend, shooting an IPSC at 1225 yards. Muzzle velocity of 2800 fps meant that these were well subsonic by the time they got out there, but we were still hitting 70% impacts across three shooters (one of whom was not experienced). The 105 BHTP seems to transition pretty well and the fact that the powder charges were thrown on a Dillon press didn't seem to create any major problems with vertical.
                      Sweet Sheldon - I am heading out to Dougs place with the Dasher in 2 weeks. With 110 SMK going 2970 FPS ... will let you know how it goes.

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                      • #36
                        Nice! Should be a fun time. Hope the winds are kind to you.

                        Dasher was good to me last weekend, took second at the UNSC match. One stage was 5 shots from a rooftop barricade, choose either the 10" 8" or 4" target at 475 yards, more points for the smaller targets. I went for the little one and cleaned the stage, the spotter said it was printing a 1" group right in the center of the 4" gong.

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                        • #37
                          Originally posted by Sheldon N View Post
                          Nice! Should be a fun time. Hope the winds are kind to you.

                          Dasher was good to me last weekend, took second at the UNSC match. One stage was 5 shots from a rooftop barricade, choose either the 10" 8" or 4" target at 475 yards, more points for the smaller targets. I went for the little one and cleaned the stage, the spotter said it was printing a 1" group right in the center of the 4" gong.
                          sweet man - i did get to punch paper with those 110SMK, shot all day within 2" at 600. I got to take my 6.5SAUM out today to OCW, just one big hole ...

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                          • #38
                            Originally posted by craigos View Post

                            Sweet Sheldon - I am heading out to Dougs place with the Dasher in 2 weeks. With 110 SMK going 2970 FPS ... will let you know how it goes.
                            You're getting 2970 out of the 110s !?! That's crazy good speed for a Dasher and more than I'm running with the 105s. Certainly a tough combo to beat.
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                            • #39
                              I was thinking the same thing. Close to 3k with the 110s is definitely moving!
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                              • #40
                                Originally posted by JLR View Post

                                You're getting 2970 out of the 110s !?! That's crazy good speed for a Dasher and more than I'm running with the 105s. Certainly a tough combo to beat.
                                So a couple of things as until today really didnt get a chance to play with more than 300 rounds at distance > 200 since PVA built if for me.

                                2970 was calc MV based on shooting a 600 yard target and having to adjust my elevation down based on mageto speed saying 2940 - but i took the dasher out to 1200 today and realized something was amiss with my AB in the kestrel. the calc MV must have a bug for that bullet or DA combination as my dope was all off with 2970 so took another magento reading and used it and was spot on out to 1200 - even though the other day it was nailing dead center. So today the calc was dead on 2940.

                                Now when I OCW this gun i went 30.6 up to 31.8 and no pressure signs until I got up to 31.8. So backed it off to the prior node. Weather is mild where i live, and I live at see level -- well today I had left 100 rounds in my car inadvertently (my other 100 was in my shooting bag) and after 5 hours in my car, noticed the interior of my car was 110+ and even though everything was smooth earlier in the day , shot 1 shell and the bolt was stiff and seen some cratering ... not bolt marks however. So am going to back it down to the prior node as this range is 1900 feet and today it was pretty hot and its just sucky work has kept me from making the 3+ hr trip earlier - and i love slapping metal. So am going to back it down to ~ 31.2-31.3 (which was my prior node) to get ~ 2900.

                                One thing I am seeing with the Dasher (and maybe folks with more experience) is given its case capacity the pressure variance is over a narrower margin then the bigger cases. I was shooting a 6.5x47, a 6.5 SAUM ... I do all the same OCW process, back everything off ~ .2 grain .. the bolt or pressure signs didnt change at all with them today. So , touch wood, likely was pushing a bit hard ...

                                Now when it was cooler - the Dasher was pounding everything out to 1200 ...used Kestrel AB with custom curve and elevation was exactly. At 500- 600 the hits on metal were so tight you couldnt distinguish the individual hits - just grey in the spotting scope.


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                                • #41
                                  2940 sounds a bit more reasonable from the 110's up at peak pressures with lower 2900's as the safe node.

                                  A good day at the range!

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                                  • #42
                                    2900-2940 does sound more likely for that bullet out of the Dasher, and should work pretty dang well at that.

                                    My current load is:
                                    26" Proof
                                    105 Hybrid jumping .010"
                                    32.5gr Varget
                                    CCI450
                                    Lapua Brass
                                    2975fps
                                    Jesse
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                                    • #43
                                      I think Ethan was running 2920 with the 110 SMK out of his Dasher on Saturday. 4 out of the top 5 shooters running Dashers lol... all the cool kids are doing it.

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                                      • #44
                                        32.8 of Varget got me 2950 with 110's, as soon as the weather got hot here in AZ, that load shit the bed. Pressure and vertical, H4895 is my next powder

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                                        • #45
                                          Originally posted by phxfa View Post
                                          32.8 of Varget got me 2950 with 110's, as soon as the weather got hot here in AZ, that load shit the bed. Pressure and vertical, H4895 is my next powder
                                          I know that'd be a lot hot in my gun. I'm only running 32.5gr Varget with 105s, and anything above 33.2 gives quite a good bit of pressure.
                                          Jesse
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                                          • #46
                                            My current 110 load is 32.2 Varget with a 0.050" jump. Velocity sub 90F is ~2885-2890fps, 90F+ 2890-2900 fps. PVA Chambered 26" 7.5T. Looking at quickload this should be sub 60kpsi and measured extractor grove expansion is well within spec.

                                            I was able to confirm a G7 BC of .310 at 1185, 1470, 1615 and 2195 last Saturday. Vertical opened up a little at 2195 even with low velocity spreads(using a labradar on every shot) but still managed a couple of impacts. Very impressive results through the velocity range though.
                                            Last edited by 4RingShooter; 07-26-2017, 07:21 PM.

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                                            • #47
                                              Anyone using imr 4166 at all?

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                                              • #48
                                                Originally posted by SPAK View Post
                                                Anyone using imr 4166 at all?
                                                I haven't used it personally, but have read it should be near identical to Varget.
                                                Jesse
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                                                • #49
                                                  Originally posted by Sheldon N View Post
                                                  2940 sounds a bit more reasonable from the 110's up at peak pressures with lower 2900's as the safe node.

                                                  A good day at the range!
                                                  Been playing more, and that H4895 has a narrow channel between no pressure signs and lots - and i seen it when i went from a day temp of 60 to a hot day of 105. But those 110s are awesome ... just be careful at the top pressure end with that powder.

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                                                  • #50
                                                    Originally posted by Sheldon N View Post
                                                    I think Ethan was running 2920 with the 110 SMK out of his Dasher on Saturday. 4 out of the top 5 shooters running Dashers lol... all the cool kids are doing it.
                                                    Yep - that sounds like a happy place for a 110 Dasher.

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