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    CDIBBS

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    6.5 x 47 Lapua
    10/08/2014 Last edited 10/20/2014 by CDIBBS


    6.5 x 47 Lapua
    Surgeon action AIAX chassis
    130 Berger VLD
    41.3 gr H4350
    CCI 450
    Benchmark 8 twist almost truck axle contour

    ~2900 fps (need to chrono with new powder lot)

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    hillwatcherXSergeant
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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    10/14/2014

    I copied a good bit of the load data from the previous thread before the switch. Hope it helps.

    As always, use at your own caution and work up.


    6.5x47 Lapua Load Data



    130gr JLK, 41.7gr H4350, BR4 primer, at OAL 2.850", 2925fps from my 26" 8-twist Hart
    107gr SMK, 39.3gr RL-15, BR4 primer, at OAL 2.750", 3000fps from my 21" 9-twist Kreiger

    My load - 40.4 H4350, 140 vld @2830 27" 8tw McGowen
    My dad's load- 39.5 R17, 140 Vld @2820 27" 8tw McGowen



    130 vld and Varget. Find your node between 36.5 and 37.5 grains.



    43 grains 4350
    27.5" Brux
    fed 205
    velocity is 3017
    130 VLD



    40.7gr of H4350
    CCI 450
    130 VLD
    Velocity is 2866 fps out of a 26" Bartlein 5R.



    6.5x47 Lapua
    Hart 1-8 25 inch
    Berger 140LRBT
    RL17, 205m, 41.2grs, 2977 FPS



    123gr Nosler CC
    38.4gr Varget
    Wolf SM primer
    2920 FPS out of a 22" Brux



    123gr Scenar/130 vld
    37.4 grains of RE15
    BR4 primers
    2930 fps-26" Kreiger SS



    Lapua Brass with necks cleaned up
    140 Berger Hybrid
    CCI 450
    37.6 grains of Varget



    I settled on 41.3 grains of H-4350 with Berger 130 Berger VLD Match and Remington 7.5 Primer and Lapua Brass.



    136 scenar
    39.9gr VV N550
    205M
    2850fps



    6.5 x 47 Lapua
    Krieger 1:8 22 inch
    140 gr. A-max
    38.5 gr. RL17
    CCI std. sm R
    .020 off lands
    2730 fps



    130 Nosler AccuBond
    41.5 gr RE-17
    CCI 450
    .010" Jump
    2850 FPS



    140 gr. Hornady Match BTHP
    36.0 gr. Varget
    CCI SR primer
    2656 fps. avg.
    Krieger 22Ē 1:8.5
    1/2Ē moa or better @ 100 yds.

    140 gr. Hornady AMax
    38.5 gr. Reloader 17
    CCI SR primer
    2673 fps avg.
    Krieger 22Ē 1:8.5
    1/2Ē moa or better @ 100 yds.

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    phxfaXFirst Sergeant
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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    10/14/2014

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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    10/14/2014


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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    10/15/2014


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    SlimLRXPrivate
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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    10/15/2014 Last edited 10/15/2014 by SlimLR

    6.5x47
    Rem 700(trued)
    27", Shilen, 1 in 8" twist, Heavy Palma
    AI Chassis
    139 scenar
    39.8gr H4350
    Wolf SRM
    Touching lands, base to ogive 2.175"
    2760 fps
    ES 11 fps
    Consistent .4" groups (5-shot groups)
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    pinzmannXGunny Sergeant
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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    10/19/2014

    My load
    123gr Lapua Scenars.
    Lapua brass
    37.0gr of Reloader 15
    CCI 450 primers
    OAL. 2.690
    Getting 2875 fps
    Now with the weather cooling off, I probably up the weight a few tenths.

    Brass life is 40 plus. Actually never have worn out any brass like loose pockets.
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    mrsnorkel99

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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    10/20/2014


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    shooterdm

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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    10/20/2014

    140gr Berger BTLR
    38.7 gr h4350
    CCI 450
    CBTO 2.010
    2608fps
    im shooting this load out to 1500 so far with good results just not that much power left working on going to 1mile
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    mrbigoneXSergeant
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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    10/20/2014


    lapua brass

    cci 450

    39 grs RL15

    123 scenars 2.720 OAL

    8 twist bartlien at 28.25 inches scooting along at 3075 fps,,

    4 inch round AR500 is in the 80+% hit rate at 800 yards



    shooting less than 2 inch 5 shot groups at 600 also when the wind isnt to bad,,



    the 123 Lapua is head and shoulders better than the 130 Berger in my rifle,,



    good luck and long live the Lapua rounds,,

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    bulletpusher1XGunny Sergeant
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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    10/25/2014

    What freebore you fellas running with the 130vlds.
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    Boxcar77

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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    10/26/2014

    Snagged this from Bryan Litz's article on 6mmbr.
    Not my loads just adding too the discussion.
    Start low and work up for safety's sake, It's your life your playing with.

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    shooterdm

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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    10/28/2014




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    --- Boxcar77 wrote:

    Snagged this from Bryan Litz's article on 6mmbr.
    Not my loads just adding too the discussion.
    Start low and work up for safety's sake, It's your life your playing with.

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    Were did you find this
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    Boxcar77

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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    10/28/2014




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    --- shooterdm wrote:




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    --- Boxcar77 wrote:

    Snagged this from Bryan Litz's article on 6mmbr.
    Not my loads just adding too the discussion.
    Start low and work up for safety's sake, It's your life your playing with.

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    Were did you find this

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    I stand corrected the article is written by Zak Smith.

    Link to article: www.6mmbr.com/gunweek084.html
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    JBMdc

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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    11/03/2014

    Those of you running Redding type S FL Bushing dies; what bushing are you guys using .288 or .289?
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    Boxcar77

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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    11/03/2014 Last edited 11/03/2014 by Boxcar77


    My loaded necks are .289 so I'm using a .288 bushing. YMMV though



    I have 300 pieces of Lapua brass all the same lot number and loaded neck is very consistant at .289 to .2895. Other lot numbers may vary in thickness.

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    SHTF22XDuplicate ID
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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    11/05/2014


    40gr. H4350, 140gr. Berger Hybrid, CCI 450 primer

    This load bugholes out of my 27in. Bartlein barrel... I don't have excess to a Chrono yet although...

    41gr- 41.5gr. H4350 is a bugholer also, just find your barrels best .1 increment within that window and you will be happy....

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    mrbigoneXSergeant
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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    11/05/2014


    I use the 288 with Berger bullets but gonna switch to 289 with the 123 Scenars as they seem to be a little fatter than the Bergers,,

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    JBMdc

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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    11/05/2014

    I kind of figured it would be between the .288 and .289. Went ahead and ordered my Redding FL Die Set and both of the mentioned bushings. Thanks guys!
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    JBMdc

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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    11/05/2014 Last edited 11/05/2014 by JBMdc

    Has anyone noticed anything different between CCI 400, 450m and BR4? Are you guys able to get low SD numbers using the 400s, 450s, vs BR4s?

  • Originally posted by Stainless31 View Post
    Yeah way to slow! Iím shooting a 24ĒĒ inch mullerworks 140 RDF AT 2836 and have another higher node at over 2900 FPS. I would just keep working up till you find pressure then look back down for low sdís. Then address seating depth for tighter groups.
    What powder and charge weight are you running to get those types of velocities? Sounds like a hot ass load

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    • Sounds real hot. I'm slinging 140 Hybrids at 2800 with 37g Varget SD3 and .25moa out of a 26" Bartlein.

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      • Originally posted by padom View Post
        Sounds real hot. I'm slinging 140 Hybrids at 2800 with 37g Varget SD3 and .25moa out of a 26" Bartlein.
        Thatís what I was thinking too, Iím at 2760 with the RDFís and 37.3 g varget. Same load with the Hybrids got me right at 2800. Iím running a 24Ē Bartlein. 2900 fps with the RDFís out of a 24 inch tube is insane speed unless something like RL17 is used and thatís still pushing it

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        • Originally posted by Stainless31 View Post
          Yeah way to slow! Iím shooting a 24ĒĒ inch mullerworks 140 RDF AT 2836 and have another higher node at over 2900 FPS. I would just keep working up till you find pressure then look back down for low sdís. Then address seating depth for tighter groups.
          2900FPS with 140s? how many loads you get on your brass? i ran up to 38.1 grains of varget and only had 2814 and that was a VERY hot load.

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          • Trick is the h4350. 41.8g for 2836fps this is my pet load. The next higher node was 42.6g no pressure signs 2913fps. Havenít had to pull any brass from the lineup yet, and I have fewer than 200 pieces. Not sure how many reloads, I stopped counting. I just aneal every three firings or so. Lapua Brass is the catís ass! BTW, obviously have to use a drop tube to fit it all in and the 140 is just ever so slightly compressed when seated at 2.165 BTO

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            • no way i could get that much 4350 in mine...but my reamer only has .100 freebore....funny thing is i sent 130 and 140g berger hybrid dummies in to JGS and had the reamer/chamber built around the bergers and this barrel wont shoot either one very well but it shoots the 140g ELD-Ms so well i bought 3000 of them.

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              • 41.8g H4350 is a hot load. I tested up to 41.1g with H4350 which was 2817 SD 4 .358" group but had a sticky bolt. Thats in a 26" Bartlein.






                300yd Group - Load Confirmation

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                • My last 6.5x47 was in a Bartlein and chambered by short action customs, he and I could not get anything to shoot very fast out of it without seeing pressure. This rifle was chambered by patriot valley arms and is built on a Mullerworks barrel. Night and day difference. Not only do I not have a sticky bolt with this load but I am constantly running through full 10 round mags at matches. At the time I was having it built I asked Josh to chamber it for the 130 hybrid.

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                  • Got some numbers on my 36.6 varget under 140eld m


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                    Benellis make great boat paddles.. BOOM, BOOM, BOOM......"I never said take'm, WTF, Sorry."

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                    • demolitionman, What barrel length and primers?

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                      • Originally posted by joel65 View Post
                        demolitionman, What barrel length and primers?

                        That was lapua on the 5th firing with NO case prep, cci no41 primers(those gold hard cupped AR15 primers), 28" Savage prefit barrel. .289 bushing full length sized every reload.
                        Benellis make great boat paddles.. BOOM, BOOM, BOOM......"I never said take'm, WTF, Sorry."

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                        • About to try some 4451 out the new 18" 6.5x47 with 123gr scenars. I went to 41gr. If it shoots decent (1/2 MOA) and gives me the speed i'm hoping for i'll likely run it until hunting season ends. If the velocity isn't there might look to 2000MR or RL16.

                          Anyone ran 4451 or H4350 rather in a shorter config? I know it's burn rate seems a bit counter productive for shorter barrel lengths but i can't help but think it's will provide moderate results.
                          "Combined synergy of a man and rifle is matchless, the steadiness of hand and acuity of vision, and finally the art of knowing how to make the rifle an extension of the body, all equate to the ultimate synthesis of man and machine."

                          "Quidvis recte factum quamvis humile praeclarum"

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                          • Originally posted by 5RWill View Post
                            About to try some 4451 out the new 18" 6.5x47 with 123gr scenars. I went to 41gr. If it shoots decent (1/2 MOA) and gives me the speed i'm hoping for i'll likely run it until hunting season ends. If the velocity isn't there might look to 2000MR or RL16.

                            Anyone ran 4451 or H4350 rather in a shorter config? I know it's burn rate seems a bit counter productive for shorter barrel lengths but i can't help but think it's will provide moderate results.
                            IMR 8208 may work good with those lighter pills and short barrel too. Itís more temp stable than 2000 mr, and faster burning than the 4451 and would probably work good in that set up.

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                            • Originally posted by Bull81 View Post

                              IMR 8208 may work good with those lighter pills and short barrel too. Itís more temp stable than 2000 mr, and faster burning than the 4451 and would probably work good in that set up.
                              8208 temp stable? I know i could punch the ticket with RL17, no question i can get the speed i want out of it. But i also want temp stability so my DOPE isn't changing that drastically.
                              "Combined synergy of a man and rifle is matchless, the steadiness of hand and acuity of vision, and finally the art of knowing how to make the rifle an extension of the body, all equate to the ultimate synthesis of man and machine."

                              "Quidvis recte factum quamvis humile praeclarum"

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                              • Originally posted by 5RWill View Post

                                8208 temp stable? I know i could punch the ticket with RL17, no question i can get the speed i want out of it. But i also want temp stability so my DOPE isn't changing that drastically.
                                8208 is very very temp stable, donít know if it will produce the velocity RL17 or PP2000 will because those two powders are crazy in the velocity category but itís a very accurate and stable powder that does produce higher velocities than other average temp stable powders do. Itís too fast for the heavies in 6.5x47 but should work pretty good with the lighter pills and short barrel. If I ran lighter weight pills in mine it would be the first powder is try.

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                                • From left to right 39.5-40.5gr of 4451 with 123gr scenars .010 off the lands. Only 4 shots in the first group, other than the flier it looks pretty decent. SD was 3.3 so probably going to run with it for a bit. Second group was 2550ish with an SD of 8.2. Last group i rushed and shot fast because i was running out of daylight truth be told i should've let the can cool as the mirage was killing me.
                                  "Combined synergy of a man and rifle is matchless, the steadiness of hand and acuity of vision, and finally the art of knowing how to make the rifle an extension of the body, all equate to the ultimate synthesis of man and machine."

                                  "Quidvis recte factum quamvis humile praeclarum"

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                                  • About to try some 2000MR. Went from 40.5-43gr in 1/2gr increments and am hoping not to run into pressure signs but we shall see tomorrow.
                                    "Combined synergy of a man and rifle is matchless, the steadiness of hand and acuity of vision, and finally the art of knowing how to make the rifle an extension of the body, all equate to the ultimate synthesis of man and machine."

                                    "Quidvis recte factum quamvis humile praeclarum"

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                                    • Originally posted by 5RWill View Post
                                      About to try some 2000MR. Went from 40.5-43gr in 1/2gr increments and am hoping not to run into pressure signs but we shall see tomorrow.
                                      Also with 123s? I wonder how it would be with 140...

                                      John

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                                      • Originally posted by Hondo64d View Post

                                        Also with 123s? I wonder how it would be with 140...

                                        John
                                        Yup 123s, i have some 140s actually but haven't even bothered with them out of such a short barrel.
                                        "Combined synergy of a man and rifle is matchless, the steadiness of hand and acuity of vision, and finally the art of knowing how to make the rifle an extension of the body, all equate to the ultimate synthesis of man and machine."

                                        "Quidvis recte factum quamvis humile praeclarum"

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                                        • Been playing around with the lite weight pills, the 47í makes a great coyote and varmint shooter.

                                          6.5x47
                                          20Ē barrel
                                          100gr amax
                                          37.5 varget
                                          2990 fps
                                          Whole lotta jump, Bullet did not care, good accuracy

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                                          • Just got my boys 47 out yesterday after a quick and rough load work up.

                                            120 amax
                                            cci 450
                                            short throated .070" freebore
                                            2.589" COAL
                                            37.9gr Varget
                                            2926fps

                                            44moa to 1200. Put the last 3 rounds into 4" at that distance to finish up the afternoon. 6moa of wind
                                            Last edited by Geno C.; 01-10-2018, 10:05 AM.
                                            Life is meant to be spent not saved!

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                                            • Geno what barrel length?

                                              Here are the results from 2000mr stopped at 41.5 as i figured i was pushing pressure and jumped out of the node. 40.5 is the top left that gave me an SD of 3.0 I'll have to look back to see the environmentals. 41.5 got me to 2887avg but with an SD of 28.3.

                                              Got some 123gr ELD-Ms in going to load some this weekend over 8208 and see how it does. Been told to try varget as well which i have a ton of though i'm almost positive i'd be pushing 37+ grains to reach that kind of speed in such a short package. I've been debating on just moving up to a 130 and shooting for 2700. More energy across the board.
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                                              Last edited by 5RWill; 01-10-2018, 01:23 PM.
                                              "Combined synergy of a man and rifle is matchless, the steadiness of hand and acuity of vision, and finally the art of knowing how to make the rifle an extension of the body, all equate to the ultimate synthesis of man and machine."

                                              "Quidvis recte factum quamvis humile praeclarum"

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                                              • IMG_0998.JPGIMG_1098.JPG
                                                It's a 23" Rock Creek. It was my 260 barrel originally and it was fast then. I went higher but the node seemed to be here.
                                                Last edited by Geno C.; 01-15-2018, 06:10 PM.
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                                                • Well one way or another i'm going to get 2800 with a temp stable powder...funny now kind of regretting not getting 130 ELD-Ms. At 2700 they're more viable than the 123s past 600yds. For 600yd hunting they're both pretty similar. Yes that is a throwback H4895

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                                                  "Combined synergy of a man and rifle is matchless, the steadiness of hand and acuity of vision, and finally the art of knowing how to make the rifle an extension of the body, all equate to the ultimate synthesis of man and machine."

                                                  "Quidvis recte factum quamvis humile praeclarum"

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                                                  • Originally posted by 5RWill View Post
                                                    Well one way or another i'm going to get 2800 with a temp stable powder...funny now kind of regretting not getting 130 ELD-Ms. At 2700 they're more viable than the 123s past 600yds. For 600yd hunting they're both pretty similar. Yes that is a throwback H4895
                                                    Here's some 130gr OCW's for you to compare. 130 ELD-M or 130 Hybrid with Varget is probably your best bet and 2700+ shouldnt be a problem.




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