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    CDIBBS

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    6.5 x 47 Lapua
    10/08/2014 Last edited 10/20/2014 by CDIBBS


    6.5 x 47 Lapua
    Surgeon action AIAX chassis
    130 Berger VLD
    41.3 gr H4350
    CCI 450
    Benchmark 8 twist almost truck axle contour

    ~2900 fps (need to chrono with new powder lot)

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    hillwatcherXSergeant
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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    10/14/2014

    I copied a good bit of the load data from the previous thread before the switch. Hope it helps.

    As always, use at your own caution and work up.


    6.5x47 Lapua Load Data



    130gr JLK, 41.7gr H4350, BR4 primer, at OAL 2.850", 2925fps from my 26" 8-twist Hart
    107gr SMK, 39.3gr RL-15, BR4 primer, at OAL 2.750", 3000fps from my 21" 9-twist Kreiger

    My load - 40.4 H4350, 140 vld @2830 27" 8tw McGowen
    My dad's load- 39.5 R17, 140 Vld @2820 27" 8tw McGowen



    130 vld and Varget. Find your node between 36.5 and 37.5 grains.



    43 grains 4350
    27.5" Brux
    fed 205
    velocity is 3017
    130 VLD



    40.7gr of H4350
    CCI 450
    130 VLD
    Velocity is 2866 fps out of a 26" Bartlein 5R.



    6.5x47 Lapua
    Hart 1-8 25 inch
    Berger 140LRBT
    RL17, 205m, 41.2grs, 2977 FPS



    123gr Nosler CC
    38.4gr Varget
    Wolf SM primer
    2920 FPS out of a 22" Brux



    123gr Scenar/130 vld
    37.4 grains of RE15
    BR4 primers
    2930 fps-26" Kreiger SS



    Lapua Brass with necks cleaned up
    140 Berger Hybrid
    CCI 450
    37.6 grains of Varget



    I settled on 41.3 grains of H-4350 with Berger 130 Berger VLD Match and Remington 7.5 Primer and Lapua Brass.



    136 scenar
    39.9gr VV N550
    205M
    2850fps



    6.5 x 47 Lapua
    Krieger 1:8 22 inch
    140 gr. A-max
    38.5 gr. RL17
    CCI std. sm R
    .020 off lands
    2730 fps



    130 Nosler AccuBond
    41.5 gr RE-17
    CCI 450
    .010" Jump
    2850 FPS



    140 gr. Hornady Match BTHP
    36.0 gr. Varget
    CCI SR primer
    2656 fps. avg.
    Krieger 22” 1:8.5
    1/2” moa or better @ 100 yds.

    140 gr. Hornady AMax
    38.5 gr. Reloader 17
    CCI SR primer
    2673 fps avg.
    Krieger 22” 1:8.5
    1/2” moa or better @ 100 yds.

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    phxfaXFirst Sergeant
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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    10/14/2014

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    mws2000XSergeant
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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    10/14/2014


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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    10/15/2014


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    SlimLRXPrivate
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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    10/15/2014 Last edited 10/15/2014 by SlimLR

    6.5x47
    Rem 700(trued)
    27", Shilen, 1 in 8" twist, Heavy Palma
    AI Chassis
    139 scenar
    39.8gr H4350
    Wolf SRM
    Touching lands, base to ogive 2.175"
    2760 fps
    ES 11 fps
    Consistent .4" groups (5-shot groups)
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    pinzmannXGunny Sergeant
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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    10/19/2014

    My load
    123gr Lapua Scenars.
    Lapua brass
    37.0gr of Reloader 15
    CCI 450 primers
    OAL. 2.690
    Getting 2875 fps
    Now with the weather cooling off, I probably up the weight a few tenths.

    Brass life is 40 plus. Actually never have worn out any brass like loose pockets.
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    mrsnorkel99

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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    10/20/2014


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    shooterdm

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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    10/20/2014

    140gr Berger BTLR
    38.7 gr h4350
    CCI 450
    CBTO 2.010
    2608fps
    im shooting this load out to 1500 so far with good results just not that much power left working on going to 1mile
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    mrbigoneXSergeant
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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    10/20/2014


    lapua brass

    cci 450

    39 grs RL15

    123 scenars 2.720 OAL

    8 twist bartlien at 28.25 inches scooting along at 3075 fps,,

    4 inch round AR500 is in the 80+% hit rate at 800 yards



    shooting less than 2 inch 5 shot groups at 600 also when the wind isnt to bad,,



    the 123 Lapua is head and shoulders better than the 130 Berger in my rifle,,



    good luck and long live the Lapua rounds,,

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    bulletpusher1XGunny Sergeant
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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    10/25/2014

    What freebore you fellas running with the 130vlds.
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    Boxcar77

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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    10/26/2014

    Snagged this from Bryan Litz's article on 6mmbr.
    Not my loads just adding too the discussion.
    Start low and work up for safety's sake, It's your life your playing with.

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    shooterdm

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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    10/28/2014




    ---------------------------------------------
    --- Boxcar77 wrote:

    Snagged this from Bryan Litz's article on 6mmbr.
    Not my loads just adding too the discussion.
    Start low and work up for safety's sake, It's your life your playing with.

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    Were did you find this
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    Boxcar77

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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    10/28/2014




    ---------------------------------------------
    --- shooterdm wrote:




    ---------------------------------------------
    --- Boxcar77 wrote:

    Snagged this from Bryan Litz's article on 6mmbr.
    Not my loads just adding too the discussion.
    Start low and work up for safety's sake, It's your life your playing with.

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    Were did you find this

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    I stand corrected the article is written by Zak Smith.

    Link to article: www.6mmbr.com/gunweek084.html
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    JBMdc

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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    11/03/2014

    Those of you running Redding type S FL Bushing dies; what bushing are you guys using .288 or .289?
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    Boxcar77

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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    11/03/2014 Last edited 11/03/2014 by Boxcar77


    My loaded necks are .289 so I'm using a .288 bushing. YMMV though



    I have 300 pieces of Lapua brass all the same lot number and loaded neck is very consistant at .289 to .2895. Other lot numbers may vary in thickness.

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    SHTF22XDuplicate ID
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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    11/05/2014


    40gr. H4350, 140gr. Berger Hybrid, CCI 450 primer

    This load bugholes out of my 27in. Bartlein barrel... I don't have excess to a Chrono yet although...

    41gr- 41.5gr. H4350 is a bugholer also, just find your barrels best .1 increment within that window and you will be happy....

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    mrbigoneXSergeant
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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    11/05/2014


    I use the 288 with Berger bullets but gonna switch to 289 with the 123 Scenars as they seem to be a little fatter than the Bergers,,

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    JBMdc

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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    11/05/2014

    I kind of figured it would be between the .288 and .289. Went ahead and ordered my Redding FL Die Set and both of the mentioned bushings. Thanks guys!
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    JBMdc

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    Re: 6.5 x 47 Lapua
    11/05/2014 Last edited 11/05/2014 by JBMdc

    Has anyone noticed anything different between CCI 400, 450m and BR4? Are you guys able to get low SD numbers using the 400s, 450s, vs BR4s?

  • #51
    VERY NICE john so you prefer the berger to the ELD??

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    • #52
      Originally posted by pitdog85 View Post
      VERY NICE john so you prefer the berger to the ELD??
      The Bergers seem to hold their grouping a little better for me as the range increases but I don't think I ever tried the 140gr ELDs with Varget, only with H4350. So, I may need to give the ELDs another chance.

      John

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      • #53
        Nice. I have very similar results with 140 Hybrids and H4350. I recently tested Varget with 130 AR Hybrids and 139L. Very accurate. I'm getting ready to test 140 ELD-M and Varget.

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        • #54
          Anybody try RL-26? Thinking about giving it a try with the 140's.

          Seems to show some promise in the 6x47 and 6.5 creedmoor, figured it "may" work with the 6.5x47.

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          • #55


            Whoops put this in the Wrong post
            Last edited by tacticalpanda; 08-23-2017, 08:41 AM.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by tacticalpanda View Post

              Whoops put this in the Wrong post
              3069 at 36.2g in 6.5x47L??? What length barrel do you have? That would be the fastest velocity on record unless you are talking about something other than the 140 ELD-M? I just finished testing Varget and 140 ELD-M in my 26" Bartlein 6.5x47L this week and 37.7g only netted 2823....

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              • #57
                Originally posted by mj1995 View Post
                I saw a couple guys in here with 21-22"barrels. Anybody running a 18-20 incher with 120-130 grain bullets?
                I run a 20" x47
                RE17 powder of choice, shot this load thru several TX summers 100+
                Zero issue with RE17. in fact only powder i currently use period
                42.5 under a 123 runs 2975 mild load bug holes all day long
                3000fps can be achieved without much fuss, lapua brass is $$. the gains are nominal downrange over 42.5


                Last edited by Jedi; 10-13-2017, 04:31 PM.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Jedi View Post

                  I run a 20" x47
                  RE17 powder of choice, shot this load thru several TX summers 100+
                  Zero issue with RE17. in fact only powder i currently use period
                  42.5 under a 123 runs 2975 mild load bug holes all day long
                  3000fps can be achieved without much fuss, lapua brass is $$. the gains are nominal downrange over 42.5

                  Those are some awesome numbers Jedi, RE17 is Temp stable? I've got a blank waiting on an action going toward a 16.5/17" 6.5x47 hoping to get 2800fps out of it but know i'll likely be pushing. I might stick with 18".
                  "Combined synergy of a man and rifle is matchless, the steadiness of hand and acuity of vision, and finally the art of knowing how to make the rifle an extension of the body, all equate to the ultimate synthesis of man and machine."

                  "Quidvis recte factum quamvis humile praeclarum"

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                  • #59
                    RE17 imho is more affected by cold than heat
                    all powders are affected by temp period, everyone has there own witch brew
                    Cooking a round in chamber will have more effect than a hot summers day, keep fresh round out of chamber until your ready to fire
                    Quick load is an invaluable tool, pays for it self pert quick. No more stack of 1lb jugs of powder for testing
                    17" should make 2800fps via 123, much depends on load config barrel setup etc etc
                    pm me for more info


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                    • #60
                      Did a pressure and speed test using RL-17 and RL-26 with the 140 Amax (have a bunch still).

                      Rifle has a Brux 1-8" twist finished at 18" suppressed.
                      Speeds measured with Magneto Speed.
                      All bullets loaded at 2.115" to Ogive


                      RL-26:

                      41.0 grains = 2463 fps
                      43.0 grains = 2561 fps (43.0 grains was the most I could get in the case and still seat the bullet at that length)

                      RL-17

                      39.0 grains = 2622 fps
                      41.0 grains = 2780 fps

                      Looks like you can't get enough RL-26 in the case on the 6.5x47.

                      On a side note, it worked amazingly well in my 6.5-284, worked up to 3200 fps with the 140 Amax before I saw pressure.


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                      • #61
                        Lord that speed for a 140 with an 18” barrel is smoking. RE17 seems to be it for shorter barrel applications.
                        "Combined synergy of a man and rifle is matchless, the steadiness of hand and acuity of vision, and finally the art of knowing how to make the rifle an extension of the body, all equate to the ultimate synthesis of man and machine."

                        "Quidvis recte factum quamvis humile praeclarum"

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                        • #62
                          Originally posted by santee116 View Post
                          Did a pressure and speed test using RL-17 and RL-26 with the 140 Amax (have a bunch still).

                          Rifle has a Brux 1-8" twist finished at 18" suppressed.
                          Speeds measured with Magneto Speed.
                          All bullets loaded at 2.115" to Ogive


                          RL-26:

                          41.0 grains = 2463 fps
                          43.0 grains = 2561 fps (43.0 grains was the most I could get in the case and still seat the bullet at that length)

                          RL-17

                          39.0 grains = 2622 fps
                          41.0 grains = 2780 fps

                          Looks like you can't get enough RL-26 in the case on the 6.5x47.

                          On a side note, it worked amazingly well in my 6.5-284, worked up to 3200 fps with the 140 Amax before I saw pressure.

                          How much jump do you use for the Amax? I have several hundred of them and haven't found the magic number in my 260 or my son's creedmoor.

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                          • #63
                            Originally posted by 260284 View Post

                            How much jump do you use for the Amax? I have several hundred of them and haven't found the magic number in my 260 or my son's creedmoor.
                            0.010" off the lands, always shot good for me there in a couple different custom rifles.

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                            • #64
                              Varget has been my go to with better SD's and accuracy over H4350 in my 26" Bartlein 6.5x47L. Dont get me wrong, H4350 is producing awesome numbers and accuracy but Varget is just downright amazing.



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                              • #65
                                Originally posted by padom View Post
                                Varget has been my go to with better SD's and accuracy over H4350 in my 26" Bartlein 6.5x47L. Dont get me wrong, H4350 is producing awesome numbers and accuracy but Varget is just downright amazing.
                                Padom, what are you loading on? Scale wise? I've been using 4166 because most of our rifles use varget at home and i'm trying not to dip another in that pool. I've gotten SDs of 6-7 with it and decent speeds with the 130gr hybrid out of a 23" barrel. Went to vans down here the other day and picked up some 4451 to try out also. They had h4350 but i still can't make myself jump on that bandwagon for fear of not being able to find any when i need it. RL16 is apparently becoming a good substitute too. I meant to get some of that yesterday but didn't see any.
                                "Combined synergy of a man and rifle is matchless, the steadiness of hand and acuity of vision, and finally the art of knowing how to make the rifle an extension of the body, all equate to the ultimate synthesis of man and machine."

                                "Quidvis recte factum quamvis humile praeclarum"

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                                • #66
                                  Tons of 8# jugs of Varget in stock locally for me. I was loading on a CM up until a few weeks ago. FX120i now and Forster CoAx

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                                  • #67
                                    Wondering if i need to transition to the FX120i also. Dunno if the Gempro is cutting it. I've been using a chargemaster and Gempro and my SDs are okay but not quite where i want them to be.
                                    "Combined synergy of a man and rifle is matchless, the steadiness of hand and acuity of vision, and finally the art of knowing how to make the rifle an extension of the body, all equate to the ultimate synthesis of man and machine."

                                    "Quidvis recte factum quamvis humile praeclarum"

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                                    • #68
                                      I've been getting single digit SD's on a Chargemaster for years. Fx120i/Auto thrower/Auto Trickler is just faster

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                                      • #69
                                        I don't have any velocities. These are the first shots out of my 6.5x47. 28" bbl. The orange pasters are my .308. I'm thinking this barrel will be very easy to load for.
                                        Last edited by demolitionman; 11-12-2017, 07:38 PM.
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                                        • #70
                                          Originally posted by 5RWill View Post

                                          Padom, what are you loading on? Scale wise? I've been using 4166 because most of our rifles use varget at home and i'm trying not to dip another in that pool. I've gotten SDs of 6-7 with it and decent speeds with the 130gr hybrid out of a 23" barrel. Went to vans down here the other day and picked up some 4451 to try out also. They had h4350 but i still can't make myself jump on that bandwagon for fear of not being able to find any when i need it. RL16 is apparently becoming a good substitute too. I meant to get some of that yesterday but didn't see any.
                                          You referring to the Vans in Brandon Ms?

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                                          • #71
                                            Originally posted by Bull81 View Post
                                            You referring to the Vans in Brandon Ms?
                                            Lol yup.
                                            "Combined synergy of a man and rifle is matchless, the steadiness of hand and acuity of vision, and finally the art of knowing how to make the rifle an extension of the body, all equate to the ultimate synthesis of man and machine."

                                            "Quidvis recte factum quamvis humile praeclarum"

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                                            • #72
                                              Originally posted by 5RWill View Post

                                              Lol yup.
                                              Small world I’m from Florence

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                                              • #73
                                                Originally posted by demolitionman View Post
                                                I don't have any velocities. These are the first shots out of my 6.5x47. 28" bbl. The orange pasters are my .308. I'm thinking this barrel will be very easy to load for.

                                                Very similar to my x47L 140 ELD-M/Varget OCW. This is out of a 26" Bartlein


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                                                • #74
                                                  Originally posted by padom View Post


                                                  Very similar to my x47L 140 ELD-M/Varget OCW.]
                                                  Yeh At 36.6 my 140EldM group looks real good which if your charge of Varget with 36.5 at 2744fps is any indication then I should be at 2750ish or slightly more which is my exact accuracy speed for 140 eld'ms in my 65 creedmoor. I guess if I don't work up anymore I can just share dope cards between the two rifles. For the price of these EldM's it's really hard for me to want to try Berger hybrids.....
                                                  Benellis make great boat paddles.. BOOM, BOOM, BOOM......"I never said take'm, WTF, Sorry."

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                                                  • #75
                                                    Originally posted by padom View Post
                                                    Nice. I have very similar results with 140 Hybrids and H4350. I recently tested Varget with 130 AR Hybrids and 139L. Very accurate. I'm getting ready to test 140 ELD-M and Varget.
                                                    im interested in your results with the 130s and varget if you dont mind sharing...im switching from a 6mm creed to the 47 should have my action and barrel back from the smith tomorrow or thursday latest.
                                                    i have 140 hybrids,140g RDFs,130 hybrids(which i had great luck with in a 260)H4350 and varget...planing to start with the 130s and varget.

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