WTF is going on here?

ArmyJerry

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This is dangerous

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46849343


Mr Trump has denied any complicity with Russia, and called the Mueller probe "the greatest political witch hunt in history".

Nonetheless, the inquiry has put some of the president's closest associates in the dock.

His former personal lawyer Michael Cohen was sentenced to three years in prison for campaign finance and fraud crimes while his campaign chief Paul Manafort was convicted of financial fraud.

 

lonegunman762x51

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None of them are "charged" with doing anything even vaguely related to the 2016 presidential campaign or Trump. The most important take away from the story is that you should never voluntarily speak to law enforcement without a lawyer present or a grant of immunity. Since nearly everything on earth is in fact illegal, you will no doubt be guilty of something. Even worse, if you do not remember an event in the manner the FBI or any other secret police organization wants it to be "remembered", you get charged with lying.




You can get charged with lying at the drop of a hat,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,law enforcement can say anything they want and frequently does.
 

Rthur

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Imaine if they were this motivated to investigate team Blue.
The above is "the insurance policy" we've heard about.
Play the little fish on catch 22 and insinuate up the ladder.

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jrhtx

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Corruption at the highest levels. With Comey gone who authorized an investigation into a sitting president of the USA? Andy? Sally (don’t think she had been fired yet)? Or someone outside of the current government at the time?

Inquiring minds would like to know.
 

SilentStalkr

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It is dangerous and it’s the reason the world has such a view of us as they do. Most of that is complete BS. Someone should do one for team blue and spread it around.
 

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When the FBI or pretty much anybody you are not sure of comes asking questions just refuse flatly to answer at all or co-operate.
At least 3 or 4 of them would be perfectly fine if they just had shut up and said see you in court.
 
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None of them are "charged" with doing anything even vaguely related to the 2016 presidential campaign or Trump. The most important take away from the story is that you should never voluntarily speak to law enforcement without a lawyer present or a grant of immunity. Since nearly everything on earth is in fact illegal, you will no doubt be guilty of something. Even worse, if you do not remember an event in the manner the FBI or any other secret police organization wants it to be "remembered", you get charged with lying.




You can get charged with lying at the drop of a hat,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,law enforcement can say anything they want and frequently does.
100% truth right there.

Say NOTHING ever to the cops. If something is to be attributed to you, it better come out of your attorney's mouth.

"Lying" and tax charges are the fed's favorite weapons when they have nothing.
 

Blue Sky Country

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The reason why many more crimes are solved now as opposed to the past is not because the cops are smarter, but because the criminals are dumber with each passing day. With the advent of Facebook and social media, many perps are simply outright incriminating themselves online, and the authorities only have to do a minor mop-up job and that is it.

On an organized crime documentary titled Paddy Whacked: The Saga of the Irish Mob, one of the guys they interviewed stated that: "the FBI couldn't catch a cold in a pneumonia ward without their informants". Go figure. And you got folks out there who just could not stop running their mouths.

THIS right here is one of the most notorious and high profile cases in the recent years where one man's incessant bragging in a hip-hop song about committing shootings and murders led to him AND 6 other members of his crew indicted on capital crimes:

 

ArmyJerry

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it needs destroying , the SES all need to be tried for the various crimes they have committed, illegal spying, illegal jailing, miscarriage of justice at every turn, the judges are all in on it too, military tribunal is the only way. If we dont get control of this out of control NKVD offshoot of the Dem party we will have a civil war, no doubt about it.

Disband the FBI.
 

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Wait, let’s get this straight: Trump fires Comey following the recommendation of Deputy AG Rosenstein, who was essentially Acting AG after Sessions’ recusal, and thus the one calling the shots at DOJ (and by chain-of-command, the FBI as well). As a result of Trump following the advice of the acting-Head of the DOJ, they decide that’s a good reason to investigate him...because he followed THEIR recommendation. “He must be working for our enemy because he asked for our recommendation and acted on it.” Anyone else seeing a problem with this line of reasoning?
 

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I thought everyone learned this lesson from Martha Stewart who did nothing wrong but the FBI said she lied.

Do not talk to law enforcement. Ever.

And do not call 911.

The end.

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I talked to a prosecutor last week. He wants my client to be interviewed to "clarify" her prior statement. By "clarify" he means "add facts to support the prosecution's theory." The client's prior interview with the cops makes clear what happened and contradicts the prosecution's theory of the case.

I said that the client takes the 5th even though the client was not involved. Ohio vs. Reiner makes it clear that is the client's right.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/00-1028.ZPC.html

The danger is that if the client testifies and sticks to telling what actually happened, the prosecutor can file perjury charges simply because he disagrees with her testimony. If the client changes her story and sings the song that the prosecutor wants to hear, then he will not file perjury charges.

So the end result is that in order to avoid perjury charges, the client is forced to commit perjury.

I am sure that happened in the Mueller investigation as well.

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SHORT VERSION: Shut the fuck up.
 
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ArmyJerry

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FBI gotta go, Mueller report should be the trigger for trump to declass everything and go after all of them.
 
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