Why are Liberals for abortion?

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Why are liberals in favor of abortion? Do these idiots not own calculators? In 2014 there were 926,240 reported so called safe abortions nationally. Just newyork and california account for almost a third of the national reported abortions. These idiots are killing themselves. 926,240 we're actually reported. The best estimate puts the abortion numbers including reported and not reported abortions far far higher than 926,240. If these idiots would stop killing themselves they would never loose another election. 926,240 , prob actually closer to 1.4 million, innocient babies are killed every year. What percentage of these babies do you think would have grown up to vote democrat Providing the majority of abortions occur in liberal states ?? I'd say the number is a shit ton.
 

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Why are liberals in favor of abortion? Do these idiots not own calculators? In 2014 there were 926,240 reported so called safe abortions nationally. Just newyork and california account for almost a third of the national reported abortions. These idiots are killing themselves. 926,240 we're actually reported. The best estimate puts the abortion numbers including reported and not reported abortions far far higher than 926,240. If these idiots would stop killing themselves they would never loose another election. 926,240 , prob actually closer to 1.4 million, innocient babies are killed every year. What percentage of these babies do you think would have grown up to vote democrat Providing the majority of abortions occur in liberal states ?? I'd say the number is a shit ton.
When your enemies are killing themselves off for you.........
:)
 

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When roe v wade passed, their were some strange results

Women had the same # of kids- just had them when older
Women were not trapped being young, dumb and pregnant

Crime dropped 17 years later.....


So only 1 person I know has adopted a black child....

Only 1 person I know has adopted anyone of color.

The orphanages are not stuffed full of unwanted kids
Jails are less full of unwanted kids

My heavily religious friends who don’t want to pay for an abortion for dumb kids- really don’t want to pay for
9 months of neo natal care
18 years of school
18 years of food stamps
18 years of WIC
18 years of health care


It is a medical procedure it should not be a religious thing.

Why do they get pregnant - have you looked at the education system for:
Reproductive health
Pregnancy prevention


What we teach in the US is not federally mandated. Some states can preach no sex and nothing about birth control.


Education around guns is as hidden as sex Ed in most of the country.
 

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Genocide of our black population, pure and simple, its been a century and a half long goal. Simple, they are absolute

39% 0f abortions were white women and 28% of abortions were black women in 2014. So white liberals are just as dumb as black liberals.
 

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There are two types of liberal voters, those who believe conceptually in their socialist ideals, and those who directly benefit from their socialist ideals.

The libs get the vote from the first camp because they promote socialist ideals, .i.e freedom of choice, even though most of that camp will never elect to abort.

The other camp doesn't care a lick about abortion, they want more children because the libs incentivize them for having more.

Gotta hand it to the libs, they know how to get the votes.
 

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When roe v wade passed, their were some strange results

Women had the same # of kids- just had them when older
Women were not trapped being young, dumb and pregnant

Crime dropped 17 years later.....


So only 1 person I know has adopted a black child....

Only 1 person I know has adopted anyone of color.

The orphanages are not stuffed full of unwanted kids
Jails are less full of unwanted kids

My heavily religious friends who don’t want to pay for an abortion for dumb kids- really don’t want to pay for
9 months of neo natal care
18 years of school
18 years of food stamps
18 years of WIC
18 years of health care


It is a medical procedure it should not be a religious thing.

Why do they get pregnant - have you looked at the education system for:
Reproductive health
Pregnancy prevention


What we teach in the US is not federally mandated. Some states can preach no sex and nothing about birth control.


Education around guns is as hidden as sex Ed in most of the country.

Liberals don't care about paying for welfare programs and I was just pointing out the fact that if abortions were outlawed dems would forever win elections. I disagree with you, abortions are just as much a religious problem as a medical issue. More likely a lack of religion problem in my opinion. It's pretty hard to teach sex ed to kids that dont show up to school plus Sex ed shouldn't be taught in schools in the first place. Parent should actually be fu cking parents and not let the schools push there liberal agendas. If you knocked someone up or got knocked up put on your adult underwear and man up. Take responsibility for your actions. schools should only teach facts not bullshit opinions like evolution and sex ed theories. To bad the mothers of the women getting abortions didnt have abortions themselves.
 
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One thing our society has never grasped is the fallacy of RvW. That fallacy is that it was about women reproductive rights. Women and liberals fell for that hook, line and sinker. That was NEVER the truth. RvW was about eugenics veiled as women’s rights. Abortion was a mechanism to control inner city population of the poor, poorly educated, more violent underclasses.

Someone cited the percentages of white and black women having abortions and made a statement based on those numbers. Based on the post it looks like they have fallen into a stat trap. I would guess the numbers cited were based on the number of white and black women having abortions when compared to the total number of abortions. The post said white and black liberals were equally stupid. That is the inaccurate way of looking at those numbers. Take those same percentages and then look at them from a population standpoint, the number of child bearing age white and black women. Things will look very different at that points /
 

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Since Roe vs Wade there have been over 50 million abortions in the US. The current population of Canada is under 40 million. In my life time, we have literally aborted the equivalent of an entire nation.
 

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Leave choice.

Just get government out of the financing of it. Why should someone with beliefs have their "revenues" be used in a manner they dont agree with.

If you need the tax payer to fund your lack of responsibility you wont mind them funding sterilization to ensure responsibility.
 

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Because killing an unwanted person is convenient if you have no moral standards. It is why the Nazis openly said they learned how to implement eugenics from the early twentieth century progressives.
And now we get to the root of the matter. Life has zero intrinsic value for socialists and progressives. The only value it has for them is whatever they can extract out of it.
 
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What’s hilarious is liberals are pro choice but anti death penalty and conservatives are pro life and pro death penalty.

The two do not jive. The only difference between a republican and a Democrat is what they do with your money after they steal it. Other than that they are the same animal.
IMO the death penalty is not a punishment, it's rehabilitation. I''m pro-rehabilitation.
 

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When roe v wade passed, their were some strange results

Women had the same # of kids- just had them when older
Women were not trapped being young, dumb and pregnant

Crime dropped 17 years later.....


So only 1 person I know has adopted a black child....

Only 1 person I know has adopted anyone of color.

The orphanages are not stuffed full of unwanted kids
Jails are less full of unwanted kids

My heavily religious friends who don’t want to pay for an abortion for dumb kids- really don’t want to pay for
9 months of neo natal care
18 years of school
18 years of food stamps
18 years of WIC
18 years of health care


It is a medical procedure it should not be a religious thing.

Why do they get pregnant - have you looked at the education system for:
Reproductive health
Pregnancy prevention


What we teach in the US is not federally mandated. Some states can preach no sex and nothing about birth control.


Education around guns is as hidden as sex Ed in most of the country.
Roe vs Wade wasn't about freedom or relieving consequences.
Your supposition is false based upon the following.
Why is anyone else responsible for the cost/expense of having children either early or out of wedlock?
Why are they financially responsible for an abortion to eliminate financial burden/rearing expense?
Why have the moral tenants of religion been removed from society?
If you'll check the out of wedlock numbers black/white at the end of 1950's you'll find they were all but parity.
If you've ever discussed this with someone that had an abortion and children later the guilt they carry will last a lifetime.

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What’s hilarious is liberals are pro choice but anti death penalty and conservatives are pro life and pro death penalty.

The two do not jive. The only difference between a republican and a Democrat is what they do with your money after they steal it. Other than that they are the same animal.
The conservative position addresses the existence of free will and personal responsibility. The liberal position does not.

An unborn child has not made the decision to harm anyone.

FWIW, I'm neither inclined to do away with abortion or accept responsibility for the act itself. Funding should be on the shoulders of the groups that support it. I do not.
 
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One thing our society has never grasped is the fallacy of RvW. That fallacy is that it was about women reproductive rights. Women and liberals fell for that hook, line and sinker. That was NEVER the truth. RvW was about eugenics veiled as women’s rights. Abortion was a mechanism to control inner city population of the poor, poorly educated, more violent underclasses.

Someone cited the percentages of white and black women having abortions and made a statement based on those numbers. Based on the post it looks like they have fallen into a stat trap. I would guess the numbers cited were based on the number of white and black women having abortions when compared to the total number of abortions. The post said white and black liberals were equally stupid. That is the inaccurate way of looking at those numbers. Take those same percentages and then look at them from a population standpoint, the number of child bearing age white and black women. Things will look very different at that points /
I stated the the white vs black abortion percentages in context of the person I quoted saying that is was pretty much only a black problem. I used the numbers to state the fact that it's not just a black issue, regardless of population. I think you took my stats out of context. If you had read the post I replied to I think you would have "got it".
 
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I stated the the white vs black abortion percentages in context of the person I quoted saying that is was pretty much only a black problem. I used the numbers to state the fact that it's not just a black issue, regardless of population. I think you took my stats out of context. If you had read the post I replied to I think you would have "got it".
If you were to look at the numbers as I explained you might see that it is a black issue, or was more so at one time. Look at the real numbers or don’t I could care less. If you state stats how about knowing what they are reason saying. “Got it”?

Also, how can it not be a black issue regardless of population? That comment makes NO sense.
 

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If you were to look at the numbers as I explained you might see that it is a black issue, or was more so at one time. Look at the real numbers or don’t I could care less. If you state stats how about knowing what they are reason saying. “Got it”?

Also, how can it not be a black issue regardless of population? That comment makes NO sense.
Actually if you look at the numbers like you say, abortion by percentage of the gross national population vs the race percentages of the national population south American races abortion % dwarfs the black race abortion%. This is not a white vs black vs brown problem, it's a cultural problem and lack of morals and religion problem imo.
 
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What’s hilarious is liberals are pro choice but anti death penalty and conservatives are pro life and pro death penalty.

The two do not jive. The only difference between a republican and a Democrat is what they do with your money after they steal it. Other than that they are the same animal.
I see pro death penalty as recognizing the value of life.

The taking of life is so egregious that the only suitable punishment is to forfeit yours.

Your contempt for society and life is such that you are a danger to society in any capacity and therefore must be extinguished to meet your after life punishment.

Problem with our CJ system is it underweights the impact on the victim, concerning itself for the person who caused the harm.
 

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What’s hilarious is liberals are pro choice but anti death penalty and conservatives are pro life and pro death penalty.

The two do not jive. The only difference between a republican and a Democrat is what they do with your money after they steal it. Other than that they are the same animal.
I think Lewis Black said it best:
A Republican stands up and says "I got a really bad idea!" A Democrat then stands up and says "and I can make it even shittier!"
 

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Actually if you look at the numbers like you say, abortion by percentage of the gross national population vs the race percentages of the national population south American races abortion % dwarfs the black race abortion%. This is not a white vs black vs brown problem, it's a cultural problem and lack of morals and religion problem imo.
What's a "south American race"?
 
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Liberal: I'm supposed to bear the responsibility and consequences of slinging coochie like an Australian aboriginee slings his boomerang?

Liberals support abortion because it's one more way to tranfer personal responsibility to someone else.
I agree that is part of it, easier to kill a fetus than use a condom or take a pill. BUT the real reason(s) behind RvW are much bigger than that. My thoughts as to the real motivation:

Eugenics
Controlling inner city crime rates
Minimizing investment in inner cities by population control
Support from pro-choice voters (this single handedly got Obama elected for his second term)

Just my thoughts.
 
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Leave choice.

Just get government out of the financing of it. Why should someone with beliefs have their "revenues" be used in a manner they dont agree with.

If you need the tax payer to fund your lack of responsibility you wont mind them funding sterilization to ensure responsibility.
That’s the point
The Christians won’t pay for a $28 pill where she can have a non surgical abortion at hime


Everyone pays for the single mom to raise the kid

The money argument is beyond stupid

Non surgical abortions are common around the world. When did the French invent RU486? The 1980s right

But we make women get a medical abortions - lots more money




How many of you know someone who has adopted a black kid??
 

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why do you assume someone else should have to pay for others responsibilities? You keep doing that and its the fundamental flaw of your logic. That same logic turned your state full on commie and threatens the rest of our country now.

That’s the point
The Christians won’t pay for a $28 pill where she can have a non surgical abortion at hime


Everyone pays for the single mom to raise the kid

The money argument is beyond stupid

Non surgical abortions are common around the world. When did the French invent RU486? The 1980s right

But we make women get a medical abortions - lots more money




How many of you know someone who has adopted a black kid??
 

308pirate

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Brown people in general I guess
Where does that leave European latin americans like my wife and I?

I know (cause I lived there) that this is the only thing from south of the border that you see in Kansas


The ones that don't come here look like this




 
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so are you European or latin american? One is a people that are generally happy as serfs, the other is a free people with fucked up governments but generally happy, with women endowed with nice asses no matter what flavor they are.
 

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That’s the point
The Christians won’t pay for a $28 pill where she can have a non surgical abortion at hime


Everyone pays for the single mom to raise the kid

The money argument is beyond stupid

Non surgical abortions are common around the world. When did the French invent RU486? The 1980s right

But we make women get a medical abortions - lots more money




How many of you know someone who has adopted a black kid??

Christians have a problem with killing the un born baby. Its not the 28 dollars that bothers them.

Not everyone pays for the single mom to raise the child. Only the people paying taxes do.

I agree the money argument is stupid when we are talking about the death of the unborn baby.

If non surgical abortions were common here what should be done with the dead baby that comes out? Cut it ups and sell it for parts like planned parent hood dose? Flush it down the toilet?

We don't make women get medical abortions. They choose to do it.

I do know some one who has adopted a black child. He is white and his wife is black.
 
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so are you European or latin american?
I'm American. A citizen of the United States of America.

My ethnicity is about evenly split between Corsican and Spanish. Read about the Coriscan diaspora to the Spanish colonies in the mid 19th century. My wife's whiter than a bedsheet with Spanish and Italian origins.

It shouldn't bother me, and normally it doesn't, but for some reason the "latin/south american/mexican/hispanic race" thing just pissed me off today enough to make a fool of its author and his ignorance.
 

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Pisses me off too, Thats my point. Most people never been to LA, I have and all over it for a long time. its as mixed ethnically as the US is. Its more an ethnic thing than a race thing. Frankly its just stupid the way people feel a need to categorize.

I'm American. A citizen of the United States of America.

My ethnicity is about evenly split between Corsican and Spanish. Read about the Coriscan diaspora to the Spanish colonies in the mid 19th century. My wife's whiter than a bedsheet with Spanish and Italian origins.

It shouldn't bother me, and normally it doesn't, but for some reason the "latin/south american/mexican/hispanic race" thing just pissed me off today enough to make a fool of its author and his ignorance.
 
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To answer the OP's question Why?

Because most Liberals realize they are useless and should have been aborted.
 

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That’s the point
The Christians won’t pay for a $28 pill where she can have a non surgical abortion at hime


Everyone pays for the single mom to raise the kid

The money argument is beyond stupid

Non surgical abortions are common around the world. When did the French invent RU486? The 1980s right

But we make women get a medical abortions - lots more money




How many of you know someone who has adopted a black kid??

I view the morning after pill as a contraceptive.

Buy your own.
 

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I'm American. A citizen of the United States of America.

My ethnicity is about evenly split between Corsican and Spanish. Read about the Coriscan diaspora to the Spanish colonies in the mid 19th century. My wife's whiter than a bedsheet with Spanish and Italian origins.

It shouldn't bother me, and normally it doesn't, but for some reason the "latin/south american/mexican/hispanic race" thing just pissed me off today enough to make a fool of its author and his ignorance.
How the fuck did a language become a race?

Oh yeah, identity politics.
 
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I'm American. A citizen of the United States of America.

My ethnicity is about evenly split between Corsican and Spanish. Read about the Coriscan diaspora to the Spanish colonies in the mid 19th century.
Is that why you included a pic of one of the Corsican Brothers?

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For those that refuse to educate themselves by reading, they could always watch the movie. :p:p:p

Sorry, couldn't resist.
 
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That’s the point
The Christians won’t pay for a $28 pill where she can have a non surgical abortion at hime


Everyone pays for the single mom to raise the kid

The money argument is beyond stupid

Non surgical abortions are common around the world. When did the French invent RU486? The 1980s right

But we make women get a medical abortions - lots more money




How many of you know someone who has adopted a black kid??
If you read my post you will note I provided an option so that if personal responsibility is not adopted the state will ensure it moving forward.

If state funds are used there is a remedy.

Everything has costs, the key is in controlling them.
 

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Where does that leave European latin americans like my wife and I?

I know (cause I lived there) that this is the only thing from south of the border that you see in Kansas


The ones that don't come here look like this




Evidently you didn't live around dodge city or garden city. I don't give a shit what race you are, as long as you are here legally. Also it's not my fault Latinos have a high ass abortion rate.