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Cobalt, sniper grey, graphite black...I assume graphite is the darkest, followed by cobalt and sniper grey? Getting down to the details of my rifle...having a hard time deciding between colors.
Have you gone to the Cerakote site? the have lots of cool colors.... USMC Red... I'm getting NRA Blue next to an all black MDT LSS Gen2 rifle chassis. I think all of your colors are shown on the site. They even have prison PINK.. LoL

EDIT: I just went here to their Gallery. https://www.cerakote.com/
 
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Color choices are as personal as the choice of stock type - what rocks for one person, sucks in the view of someone else. I've painted lots of customers' rifles over the years - first with GunKote, and now with CeraKote. Some guys want a fair amount of contrast between the painted bbl'd action & stock, others like a closer match. I did a M700 hunter in 250AI for myself when I was still using GunKote, and bought a B&C #1000 M-40-style stock for it in OD w/blk web. Decided to try OD GunKote on the bbl'd action & BM - it turned out to be too much green for my tastes, and after a few months of regretting the appearance, I pulled the bbl'd action out of the stock, blasted all the OD off, and re-painted it in graphite black, then put it into another B&C #1000 in tan with blk web - it looks a whole lot more attractive to me now. I've got tan/earth tone CK in desert sand, McM tan, FDE, Magpul FDE, coyote tan, and patriot brown, and have found uses for all those colors, both in matching & contrasting stock colors/camo patterns. Spending some time going through a few of CeraKote's photo galleries can be time very well-spent when it comes to making a decision on what you want for your next rig.
 

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Hey Airgunshawn
Well the truth is the 24th is my birthday you don’t have to wrap the box.hahaha
Oh man the the waiting game sucks.
I have a mpa chassis I’m waiting for I ordered it Nov 30th still waiting(for Howa action)
I did go out and shoot today out to 100 yards is not much challenge so I shot at 200 and 288 at 1moa targets wow what a lot of fun. A member stop by the range and he shot the Vudoo he was shocked how great it shoot at 288 he said that’s the farthest ever shot a 22lr. Then he asked how much he was shocked again.
Keep me posted on how it shoots and send pics
 

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Well, after a lot of contemplation, study, and reflection, I decided that I could not live my life without a Vudoo V22 (LOL!!). I placed my order last week. Andrew was very helpful, and actually talked me out of a few things that I was sure I was going to buy (the travel case and the Area 419 compensator). Even after all the time they spent with me on phone, I forgot to order the t-shirt and the chamber flag, but Jill was very helpful in updating my order and reiterated that they don't mind updating orders, because they want us to be absolutely 100% satisfied with our order. So, the wait is on, but I am well accustomed to waiting for custom orders, so shouldn't be a problem. I am not in a rush. Looking forward to getting it though!
 

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If you do some testing with various lots of Std+, it's possible to find a lot that will shoot real well out to 200yds. I don't know how often an exceptionally good lot comes along, but I found one that was good enough to give my best lots of SK Rifle Match, LR Match, and even Lapua Center-X a run for the money from 50 all the way out to 200yds. This is only the 2nd exceptional lot I've found in several years, but then I haven't been testing a lot of Std+ because I didn't believe it could be good enough to be worthwhile doing so.
 

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If you do some testing with various lots of Std+, it's possible to find a lot that will shoot real well out to 200yds. I don't know how often an exceptionally good lot comes along, but I found one that was good enough to give my best lots of SK Rifle Match, LR Match, and even Lapua Center-X a run for the money from 50 all the way out to 200yds. This is only the 2nd exceptional lot I've found in several years, but then I haven't been testing a lot of Std+ because I didn't believe it could be good enough to be worthwhile doing so.
Where are you buying the various lots of SK+? I have a few lots but they are old and probably couldn't get them now anyway.
 

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Where are you buying the various lots of SK+? I have a few lots but they are old and probably couldn't get them now anyway.
I bought the most recent lot samples I have from Good Shooting. If you look up Capstone Precision's list of dealers who have a direct line to their inventory, you can pick & choose from that list. Champion's Choice is also listed there, and there are several others - I had that list after I had one of my V-22s tested at the Lapua Test Center, but don't know what I've done with it.
 

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Well, after a lot of contemplation, study, and reflection, I decided that I could not live my life without a Vudoo V22 (LOL!!). I placed my order last week. Andrew was very helpful, and actually talked me out of a few things that I was sure I was going to buy (the travel case and the Area 419 compensator). Even after all the time they spent with me on phone, I forgot to order the t-shirt and the chamber flag, but Jill was very helpful in updating my order and reiterated that they don't mind updating orders, because they want us to be absolutely 100% satisfied with our order. So, the wait is on, but I am well accustomed to waiting for custom orders, so shouldn't be a problem. I am not in a rush. Looking forward to getting it though!
Cmkaco
I’m glad the Vudoo saved your life, I’t saved mine I was getting so frustrated with low quality firearms poor accuracy in 22lr .
 
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MTU vs kukri for a pure target rifle with suppressor
Pro / Cons ??
80% are buying kukri. I like thicker barrels. but will buy kukri since I care about resale and I know it will likely sell easier. Besides that, there isn't much difference. One is not more accurate then the other.
 

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I was going to get the custom travel case for my Vudoo, but Andrew (from Vudoo) mentioned that it is very heavy, and that he only uses it when he is flying with his vudoo. What type of case does the rifle come standard with? Is it fitted at all, or is it just a plastic hard case with egg crate foam?
 

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I was going to get the custom travel case for my Vudoo, but Andrew (from Vudoo) mentioned that it is very heavy, and that he only uses it when he is flying with his vudoo. What type of case does the rifle come standard with? Is it fitted at all, or is it just a plastic hard case with egg crate foam?
Plastic hard case and after I scoped and put on my bipod it wouldn’t fit. I have a pelican vault and it is a bit heavy but protects my rifle well I have several Pelican 1750’s and the vault is lighter.
 
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How big of a Vault would I need for a Vudoo with 20" barrel, scope and bipod? They make a takedown, a tactical, and a single rifle case.
 

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How do your guns like SK std. +?

I have a shit ton of it.
All of my guns like the red and Yellow box SK ammo though I have not shot over a hundred yet. I am still in the ammo testing phase and frankly just getting into the .22 game. My CZ MTR wont even cycle some ammo like Wolf match while the Ruger RPRR will cycle anything. I'm also working on my scopes and could use some input. I have no way of comparing scopes side by side.
Thus far I have a ARES and some HELOS from Athlon. What I think I want is something like a 10 x 50 with great glass. What do you guy's suggest??
 

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AirGunShawn - A Sightron SIII 10-50x60 might be a good scope for benchrest shooting, but if you're wanting to get into comps like NRL22, I think that's too much magnification. You didn't say which Ares scope you have - the BTR is 6-24x50 w/30mm tube, while the ETR is 4.5-30x56 w/34mm tube. The BTR has a fairly heavy reticle with a + aiming point, while the BTRs reticle is lighter/thinner, with a floating dot aiming point. Their top-of-the-line Cronus scope is 4.5-29x56; the BTR has a finer APRS reticle than the older, pre-BTR model, still with the + aiming point, and the newest model has the APRS1 reticle with floating dot aiming point. I've got all three models of the Cronus on various .22RF repeaters, and like the original heavy + aiming point best when shooting PRS-style matches where you may need to engage movers. For finer work such as BR target shooting, either the BTR's finer + aiming point or the new floating dot reticle are easier to use when shooting groups.

I've also got a Weaver T24 on a nice old Winchester M52D single shot target rifle; an 1/8 min dot works pretty well for shooting conventional bullseye targets. Different scopes for different folks - and also for different games. The choices in optics we have today can be baffling compared to what was available when I started shooting back in 1963....
 

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AirGunShawn - A Sightron SIII 10-50x60 might be a good scope for benchrest shooting, but if you're wanting to get into comps like NRL22, I think that's too much magnification. You didn't say which Ares scope you have - the BTR is 6-24x50 w/30mm tube, while the ETR is 4.5-30x56 w/34mm tube. The BTR has a fairly heavy reticle with a + aiming point, while the BTRs reticle is lighter/thinner, with a floating dot aiming point. Their top-of-the-line Cronus scope is 4.5-29x56; the BTR has a finer APRS reticle than the older, pre-BTR model, still with the + aiming point, and the newest model has the APRS1 reticle with floating dot aiming point. I've got all three models of the Cronus on various .22RF repeaters, and like the original heavy + aiming point best when shooting PRS-style matches where you may need to engage movers. For finer work such as BR target shooting, either the BTR's finer + aiming point or the new floating dot reticle are easier to use when shooting groups.

I've also got a Weaver T24 on a nice old Winchester M52D single shot target rifle; an 1/8 min dot works pretty well for shooting conventional bullseye targets. Different scopes for different folks - and also for different games. The choices in optics we have today can be baffling compared to what was available when I started shooting back in 1963....
I hear people saying that the SIII is too much magnification. I would think you could just dial down the mag when not needed, and dial it up when shooting paper. I have a PST G2, that I may re-purpose to my 223 Tx3 (don't have a dedicated scope for it yet) and get the SIII for my V22 since all I do is shoot for groups at 50 and 100 yrds.

I do like the Athlon scopes though, have not heard anything negative about them. I see Athelon as walking in the footsteps of Vortex. Putting out quality products and delivering stellar CS. I would not hesitate to get one. I got the PST G2 on a fire sale for around $750 a while back. Couldn't resist.
 

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AirGunShawn - A Sightron SIII 10-50x60 might be a good scope for benchrest shooting, but if you're wanting to get into comps like NRL22, I think that's too much magnification. You didn't say which Ares scope you have - the BTR is 6-24x50 w/30mm tube, while the ETR is 4.5-30x56 w/34mm tube. The BTR has a fairly heavy reticle with a + aiming point, while the BTRs reticle is lighter/thinner, with a floating dot aiming point. Their top-of-the-line Cronus scope is 4.5-29x56; the BTR has a finer APRS reticle than the older, pre-BTR model, still with the + aiming point, and the newest model has the APRS1 reticle with floating dot aiming point. I've got all three models of the Cronus on various .22RF repeaters, and like the original heavy + aiming point best when shooting PRS-style matches where you may need to engage movers. For finer work such as BR target shooting, either the BTR's finer + aiming point or the new floating dot reticle are easier to use when shooting groups.

I've also got a Weaver T24 on a nice old Winchester M52D single shot target rifle; an 1/8 min dot works pretty well for shooting conventional bullseye targets. Different scopes for different folks - and also for different games. The choices in optics we have today can be baffling compared to what was available when I started shooting back in 1963....
Hello Dennis, I have the ARES ETR and two 8 - 34 HELOS BTRs also one HELOS BTR 6 - 24.
They are all nice scopes with the ARES ETR being my favorite. They are all MOA and Illuminated reticle.
I hope to have my Vudoo on Friday or Saturday and am thinking of a new scope for her.
Jason at Ozark optics has treated me well and he is wanting to sell me the CRONUS. What I do know is that I cant see super fine cross hairs and don't care for a dot. All of my scopes have the reticle that zooms as you increase power.
I tend to shoot everything at a high power setting also. So I suppose the question is, what would you recommend if ATHLON did not exist. As far as shooting comps go, I don't even know what the .22 guys have going on as I am brand new to powder guns. A Sightron would be perfect if I were shooting air guns. BTW..... why would I not just turn the power down to compete in some limited class comp? Also, could you mention some of the different shooting types?
My shooting style is normally slow.

Thanks so much
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Shawn, The only comps I've been shooting with .22RF rifles are practical/tactical, fairly fast, timed stages, with various targets - paper & steel - at distances of from 50yds out past 300yds. It's just the type of comps that the V-22 really excels at, and I've been more than satisfied with the Cronus scopes on my 40XB & V-22 repeaters. Mentioning the pre-BTR Cronus & reticle is academic, since they're no longer made nor available, unless you purchase used. However, I still tend to think that the older, pre-BTR's heavy + aiming point is easier to keep track of while shooting movers, and only becomes a little bit of a liability when you're shooting groups with max magnification, and are wanting a very precise aiming point that won't partially obscure what you're aiming at. I don't actually care for the floating dot aiming point, especially in a ffp scope where it shrinks in size when you reduce magnification - as we do when shooting movers. For all intents & purposes, the floating dot disappears for me when I back down to 10x-12x for shooting movers, while the heavy BTR + aiming point is still quite visible/distinct.

I'd say that if you're looking to shoot in any sort of competition, you're going to find it somewhat difficult to pick one scope that's perfectly suited to widely different shooting disciplines. But at the same time, I don't believe being 'perfectly suited' is all that critical. Find a scope with the right combination of: 1. a reticle that you like 2. optical quality good enough to suit your vision 3. controls that are easy to use 4. a good workable zero-stop 5. last, but more important than any of the other 4 - a scope that's got accurate & repeatable tracking. None of the .22RF matches I'm aware of limit magnification of optical sights, so pick what you feel you need. If your local gun shop has a good selection of scopes, spend some time checking them out. If Athlon didn't exist, I might still be shooting a lot of Sightron's scopes. I used to have several of their SIII 6-24x50 scopes on tactical rifles, but 2nd focal plane scopes complicate things when you're using reticle hash marks for holding off for lead on movers, and even with very good glass & workable reticles, the SIIIs still didn't have zero stops, which can be a royal PITA if you don't have a system to help keep track of your elevation zero. I see they're coming out with a new SV 34mm scope that will have a zero stop - if I weren't heavily invested in Athlon scopes, I'd probably be wanting to try one of the new SVs. The single Vortex AMG I looked at in a gun shop last year impressed me with its optical quality & reticle - that might be another scope for you to look at. Thing is, with all the scopes available in today's market, it's hard to keep up with what's out there. I live in a very rural area, don't have many gun shops out here, and the ones we do have don't usually carry a full line of scopes so buyers can compare. It's often a lot easier to go to a club match and get to know shooters there who'll gladly let you look at & through their scopes.

Best of luck to you in your search for optics.
 

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I hear people saying that the SIII is too much magnification. I would think you could just dial down the mag when not needed, and dial it up when shooting paper. I have a PST G2, that I may re-purpose to my 223 Tx3 (don't have a dedicated scope for it yet) and get the SIII for my V22 since all I do is shoot for groups at 50 and 100 yrds.

I do like the Athlon scopes though, have not heard anything negative about them. I see Athelon as walking in the footsteps of Vortex. Putting out quality products and delivering stellar CS. I would not hesitate to get one. I got the PST G2 on a fire sale for around $750 a while back. Couldn't resist.
Hey E. If all you are doing is shooting paper at a few known distances, there is no reason not to go ahead and use an SIII on your Vudoo. I think the SFP High mag scopes are made for that. I actually prefer them for that.
You have to remember that this site is very FFP, tactical style match heavy, so the suggestions here are usually geared much more heavily in that direction. The on the fly maneuverability for the various distances, lends itself well to the FFP scopes often suggested here. I absolutely love my Athlon Cronus scopes, and they are my favorite, but I do like the SIII10-50 and other options when I am just shooting at paper at 50yds. It is what I have mounted on one right now.
All that being said, my best scores with my Vudoo on paper, for whatever reason, were actually with a Cronus, not my SIII10-50, SV10-50, Vortex GE15-60, or S&B12-50.
 

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Hey E. If all you are doing is shooting paper at a few known distances, there is no reason not to go ahead and use an SIII on your Vudoo. I think the SFP High mag scopes are made for that. I actually prefer them for that.
You have to remember that this site is very FFP, tactical style match heavy, so the suggestions here are usually geared much more heavily in that direction. The on the fly maneuverability for the various distances, lends itself well to the FFP scopes often suggested here. I absolutely love my Athlon Cronus scopes, and they are my favorite, but I do like the SIII10-50 and other options when I am just shooting at paper at 50yds. It is what I have mounted on one right now.
All that being said, my best scores with my Vudoo on paper, for whatever reason, were actually with a Cronus, not my SIII10-50, SV10-50, Vortex GE15-60, or S&B12-50.
Cool. I have been wanting the SIII, but since I'm spending all this $ on the gun, I will have to wait to get the SIII.
 

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Had a few minutes to fool with the Sinister between rain showers today. I'm figuring out how to get my set up more stable. With the rounded forearm it rolls a bit when firing. In the first four groups I was experimenting with a bipod off a plywood bench. It didn't work so well. After removing the two swivel studs I mounted a pic rail to install a F class bipod but I added a small shim of rubber between the rial and stock to prevent marring up the paint. Didn't work worth a hoot as you can see in the first four groups.

Anyhow, I managed to pull off my personal best 10 shot group of any rimfire. Now just to get better consistency in my set up!

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I have an Ares ETR MOA on my Vudoo and shoot 100/200 bench competition with it and 50yd for recreation. The ETR is very good for the price IMO. For 50/100yds it's great, at 200yds it lacks enough magnification to easily spot impacts on paper. I'm going to try one of the LOW manufactured Delta Stryker/Trijicon AccuPower 5-50x56 optics. I looked through a friends Delta Stryker with the DLS-3 reticle on his Vudoo yesterday at the range and was very impressed with 50x magnification at 200yds. The edge to edge clarity and color of the scope was the best I've seen.
 

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The V22 action does a great job getting the bullet loaded into the chamber without damaging it at all and that shows in how the Vudoos shoot so many types of ammunition well at 50 yards. After that though the quality of the ammunition starts to take over. Having consistent ammunition shot to shot with lower ES/SD numbers start to really become relevant and show in your groups.

I see that in what happens out at 100 yards and beyond when I’m shooting. SK STD+ is good practice ammo at 75y and in but it starts to really fall apart after that. I practiced with it out to 100y last week and I went away without being able to get good information in terms of DOPE and how well I was shooting.

Today I practiced with the Center X I chose from my Lapua testing a few months ago and I left knowing how I and my rifle were shooting, I also got great DOPE information and was able to tweek my ballistic program to near dead on from 25y out to 200y. I’m shooting a match this weekend from 25 to 333 yards and the winds are forecasted to be 15 to 20mph. I’ll have my hands full trying to call wind so having confidence in my elevation DOPE is a big deal.
 
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cleaning question:

best method for maintenance chamber cleaning to stop carbon ring from forming in the first place

ive read, bronze brush, nylon brush, bottle brush patch with bore paste etc

any "agreed" upon techniques and solvents

i clean the barrel every 3-400 and after 100 or so i push through a few dry patches just to get the loose crap out
 

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I use one of these immediately after shooting (while the barrel is still warm):


I'm lazy so I just bought a couple. But other (frugal) people make their own:


On a bolt action you can pull the bolt and just use a rod. But with this tool you can hit the buildup a bit faster and it works with semi-auto rifles too. And it's a small enough tool to easily carry to the range.
 

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I have an Ares ETR MOA on my Vudoo and shoot 100/200 bench competition with it and 50yd for recreation. The ETR is very good for the price IMO. For 50/100yds it's great, at 200yds it lacks enough magnification to easily spot impacts on paper. I'm going to try one of the LOW manufactured Delta Stryker/Trijicon AccuPower 5-50x56 optics. I looked through a friends Delta Stryker with the DLS-3 reticle on his Vudoo yesterday at the range and was very impressed with 50x magnification at 200yds. The edge to edge clarity and color of the scope was the best I've seen.
Sieg.... Did you look at the Cronus? Is it worth 1420.00
 

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Sieg.... Did you look at the Cronus? Is it worth 1420.00
I have not looked through a Cronus, I understand it's made by LOW in Japan who also makes the Delta and Trijicon 4.5-30 and 5-50 scopes. I'd read that the latter two both have a slight edge in glass, after looking through the Delta I can believe it.

What it's come down to for me is magnification and fine adjustment. I thought decent glass at 30x on the Vudoo would be adequate for 100/200 bench shooting, but I only started shooting target shooting at the range just over a year ago and had never had a rifle as capable as the Vudoo.

I ordered a Trijicon 5-50x56 MRAD yesterday so in a few days I'll know firsthand how it compares to the Delta. It will be my first MRAD optic, the floating dot reticle being the main reason. With .05 mil turrets vs 1/8MOA, the fine adjustment difference appears to be +1/32 @50, +1/16 @100, and +1/8" @200...… fine enough. Hopefully the parallax adjustment is less sensitive in the 200yd range than the Delta which goes from 300 to infinity vs 800 to infinity scale of the Trijicon.

Buy a rimfire..…. it will be cheap fun they said. :ROFLMAO:

Also after using the Delta at 200yds, I returned my new Vortex Diamondback 20-60x80 spotting scope for service/replacement because in comparison it was worthless.
 

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So the bore guide we buy from Vudoo is for rod diameter less than .187 or something. Since alot of .17 Cal rods have a 5/40 threads (that I have nothing for cause all of my stuff is at least 22 Cal), I was thinking about boring out the hole to accommodate a 22 cal rod. The smaller piece. Anybody seeing a problem with this?
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So the bore guide we buy from Vudoo is for rod diameter less than .187 or something. Since alot of .17 Cal rods have a 5/40 threads (that I have nothing for cause all of my stuff is at least 22 Cal), I was thinking about boring out the hole to accommodate a 22 cal rod. The smaller piece. Anybody seeing a problem with this?
It's made to accommodate 20 cal rods, which are about that diameter. I would not do it. I would spend $30 and get dewey coated rod instead.
 
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So the bore guide we buy from Vudoo is for rod diameter less than .187 or something. Since alot of .17 Cal rods have a 5/40 threads (that I have nothing for cause all of my stuff is at least 22 Cal), I was thinking about boring out the hole to accommodate a 22 cal rod. The smaller piece. Anybody seeing a problem with this?
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I don't own a .20 Cal rod but would I be wrong in assuming the .20 Cal would be to big to fit in the .187 guide hole?
 

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It's made to accommodate 20 cal rods, which are about that diameter. I would not do it. I would spend $30 and get dewey coated rod instead.
Not just the rod but the brushes, jag, etc. . And do they even make a guide and jag in 22 cal with a 5/40 thread? Already have a ton of this stuff in 22 cal and a good 22 cal rod
 

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Thanks for this. Are you using this with the Vudoo bore guide with a 20 cal Dewey rod?
Don't have a vudoo, using it with a custom made guide for a 20 cal. Pretty sure that your guide will work with a 20 cal.
 

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Thanks for this. Are you using this with the Vudoo bore guide with a 20 cal Dewey rod?
I do. I have turned the OD of the adapter down some to allow it to clear the ejector easily in the V22 action and to allow more room in the bore. Just chuck it up in a drill and use sand paper to get the desired OD, super easy...
 

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I do. I have turned the OD of the adapter down some to allow it to clear the ejector easily in the V22 action and to allow more room in the bore. Just chuck it up in a drill and use sand paper to get the desired OD, super easy...
what did you make your OD on the adapter?