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I participated in a poker run today to benefit a local homeless veterans’s resource center. I did not initially understand that it was being put on by a motorcycle club called Countrymen MC, but that became abundantly clear fairly quickly. It was my first time riding a street bike with a group or doing any sort of motorcycle themed event like that. My background is more motocross, but I’ve gotten too old and fat for that sort of thing, and I only got a street bike recently. So I am fairly clueless about rallies, clubs, events, etc. for street bikes. At the end of the day, a lot of money was raised for the homeless vets center, and I thought it was great, but when I looked up the MC’s Facebook page, and saw that they described themselves as three percenters, and looked that up, I really got an eyefull. That term is used to describe seditionist militias who support armed rebellion to protect the US Constitution, and the second amendment in particular. Also, it seems some members of this club provided security for the white power folks in Charlottesville, and the club responded to those events with a policy against such activity, and later some self described “three percenters” attacked a mosque, but I don’t think they were part of Countrymen MC. So I’m trying to figure out the lay of the land here. The Countrymen MC members I met seem like nice people, but I can’t put my license to practice law at risk by affiliating with any seditionist groups or militias. But I want a reality check. Is there anything to be concerned about here?
 

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I participated in a poker run today to benefit a local homeless veterans’s resource center. I did not initially understand that it was being put on by a motorcycle club called Countrymen MC, but that became abundantly clear fairly quickly. It was my first time riding a street bike with a group or doing any sort of motorcycle themed event like that. My background is more motocross, but I’ve gotten too old and fat for that sort of thing, and I only got a street bike recently. So I am fairly clueless about rallies, clubs, events, etc. for street bikes. At the end of the day, a lot of money was raised for the homeless vets center, and I thought it was great, but when I looked up the MC’s Facebook page, and saw that they described themselves as three percenters, and looked that up, I really got an eyefull. That term is used to describe seditionist militias who support armed rebellion to protect the US Constitution, and the second amendment in particular. Also, it seems some members of this club provided security for the white power folks in Charlottesville, and the club responded to those events with a policy against such activity, and later some self described “three percenters” attacked a mosque, but I don’t think they were part of Countrymen MC. So I’m trying to figure out the lay of the land here. The Countrymen MC members I met seem like nice people, but I can’t put my license to practice law at risk by affiliating with any seditionist groups or militias. But I want a reality check. Is there anything to be concerned about here?
I wouldn't hang about here then, were I you. Passion for Liberty here is strong, and forthright opinions are expressed with regularity. Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.
 

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I participated in a poker run today to benefit a local homeless veterans’s resource center. I did not initially understand that it was being put on by a motorcycle club called Countrymen MC, but that became abundantly clear fairly quickly. It was my first time riding a street bike with a group or doing any sort of motorcycle themed event like that. My background is more motocross, but I’ve gotten too old and fat for that sort of thing, and I only got a street bike recently. So I am fairly clueless about rallies, clubs, events, etc. for street bikes. At the end of the day, a lot of money was raised for the homeless vets center, and I thought it was great, but when I looked up the MC’s Facebook page, and saw that they described themselves as three percenters, and looked that up, I really got an eyefull. That term is used to describe seditionist militias who support armed rebellion to protect the US Constitution, and the second amendment in particular. Also, it seems some members of this club provided security for the white power folks in Charlottesville, and the club responded to those events with a policy against such activity, and later some self described “three percenters” attacked a mosque, but I don’t think they were part of Countrymen MC. So I’m trying to figure out the lay of the land here. The Countrymen MC members I met seem like nice people, but I can’t put my license to practice law at risk by affiliating with any seditionist groups or militias. But I want a reality check. Is there anything to be concerned about here?

Ever heard of the hells angels? I thought quite a few of their members were lawyers.
 

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The reference to the III percent is in connection to the 3 percent of the colonists who stood up against the Kings Army during the American Revolution.

Anyone who claims to be part of that AND breaks the law or otherwise contributes to the oppression of others is a piece of shit and not in keeping with the original intent of the movement.
 

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According to the Supreme Court, seditious speech is not protected speech. And professional licensing organizations, like the legal bar and medical licensing boards, can eject members if only based on popularity, such as arrest alone, despite dismissal of charges or no charges filed.
 
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I rode on the street for a lot of years, did a few charity runs then quit. To me it always seemed that to many riders were riding tighter formation than their skills allowed. One year I did 10 runs and saw six multibike accidents. After that I only rode alone or with known riders.

Of course some of my friends said I was a pussy, and I did not argue. Coming from motocross you are probably prepared to ride tight to other riders. Just remember the guy next to you may not have that skill or background, so you can never predict what he is going to do.
 

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The reference to the III percent is in connection to the 3 percent of the colonists who stood up against the Kings Army during the American Revolution.

Anyone who claims to be part of that AND breaks the law or otherwise contributes to the oppression of others is a piece of shit and not in keeping with the original intent of the movement.


I agree with the above! Just because you consider yourself a true 3%er doesn’t mean you are a jackass. If anyone says otherwise, point out the difference. Standing for liberty and good American values and blah blah should not be confused with anyone that is a POS intentional hateful or lawbreaking person and so on.
 

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According to the Supreme Court, seditious speech is not protected speech. And professional licensing organizations, like the legal bar and medical licensing boards, can eject members if only based on popularity, such as arrest alone, despite dismissal of charges or no charges filed.
Yet Hillary just had her license to practice law reinstated....
 

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The reference to the III percent is in connection to the 3 percent of the colonists who stood up against the Kings Army during the American Revolution.

Anyone who claims to be part of that AND breaks the law or otherwise contributes to the oppression of others is a piece of shit and not in keeping with the original intent of the movement.

^^^ This.

Three Percenters are not militias or white power crazies... They represent, among other things, the three percent of Americans who put on uniforms... and the term comes from Colonial times when only three percent of colonists actually fought for what became the U.S. of A.

Cheers,

Sirhr
 

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The reference to the III percent is in connection to the 3 percent of the colonists who stood up against the Kings Army during the American Revolution.

Anyone who claims to be part of that AND breaks the law or otherwise contributes to the oppression of others is a piece of shit and not in keeping with the original intent of the movement.
Do you realize how many laws are on the books?
 
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Do you realize how many laws are on the books?
Far too many.

What I said above relates to the general idea of the 3% movement. As it pertains to my views of certain laws, I tend to identify with "OathKeepers" because throughout my life I have multiple times sworn an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America. It is the supreme law of the land and shall be followed. Any law which is not in keeping with the written word of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights will not be enforced.

Due to my above belief, I am preparing to exit law enforcement in my state within the next 3 months.
 
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"That term is used to describe seditionist militias who support armed rebellion to protect the US Constitution"

I cannot fathom anyone being a seditionist if they want to protect the US Constitution. If you take your statement and amend the adjectives; it may make some sense. But to me, anyone that wants to overthrow the US Constitution is a seditionist.

Just my $.02
 

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Just something to point out, there are a lot of true patriots that have 3% tattoos and such, a lot of them vets, that I assure you are not meant to carry negative connotations. But, make no mistake that if they thought the gov went awry, they would probably be some of the first to step up to put things back in place to protect the constitution. What we have these days seems to be some sort of lawlessness that is taking place under the guise of the rule of law. Like they are making up things to bend stuff to their will. That’s not the way things are supposed to be and there are those that think order will need to be reinstated. That doesn’t make them bad, imo, that makes them true patriots. Make no mistake the guys I know would not be associated with any evil that has been spoken about here but I do believe they would show up for country in a time of need, without hesitation! After all the oath is to protect against all enemies, foreign and domestic. I fail to see how this makes them bad guys.
 

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The law is lawless, and that breeds even more lawlesssness. I know he clubs pretty well and find their attitude toward justice more honorable than anyone Group in the justice businesss.
 

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The irony here is comical...here we have a lawyer leery of getting associated with the 3 percenters and their type because...well their loyalty is to the Constitution and not the self grown federal trainwreck we have now.

All the while, the majority of the hardcore "seditious" founding fathers willing to die fighting King George were in fact lawyers by profession.

I agree it's good to know who your associated with but you should probably know who your asking advice from even more....lot of Constitution loving Patriots here. Your probably on a federal list just for being on this sight considering most registered Republicans are probably on a deep state "reducation" list already.
 

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Ya'll keep talking about 'FBI files' and 'government watchlists' and whatnot. Do you REALLY think that there is such a thing? And even if there was, do you REALLY think that it would matter?

As in, would the FBI or some other alphabet agency ACTUALLY do anything, considering there is/has been SO MUCH over the past number of years that is far more illegal, venal, hideous, vapid, and in DIRECT CONTRAVENTION to the Constitution?

I mean seriously, does the average layman have to worry, when they don't do their job that's publicized and called out?

I'm a Law Enforcement supporter, but I also see what federal 'law enforcement' does. (capitols earned and skipped due to respect levels) Ya'll figure it out.
 

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Ok. So there are different factions of 3%ers. There are the 3% original, which whom I affiliate with. They also work closely with and endorse the Oath Keepers. There are constitutional minded people that are not happy with the path we are on, but realize that at this point in time we must exhaust legal battles prior to taking up arms. They are heavy into the “good guy image” to win over hearts and minds. They move members that are available to go into a catastrophic area and assist with clean up and aid, along with other FEMA associates.

Then there is the 3% security force. They are much more radical and antagonistic, from my understanding. Perhaps this is the group you speak of??

I’m sure there are other 3% groups as well...
 

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Become a known associate of a1% club, then you can worry about your professional status bring in jeapordy unless you are willing to take defending it (and them) on.
IIIpers are all over and more a mindset statement of those that believe the founding fathers knew what they were doing and are willing to defend that.
 

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Hi,

It is a Holiday Weekend for those guys....your good. :cool:

You haven't typed any of the 25k word combos that would send auto alert to the SUV and lil bird crews to activate.....

Sincerely,
Theis

I think their holiday got cancelled for an "ass covering" recall.

Wouldnt be surprised if the shredders and burn pits are in full operation.

After all Christopher wray has to protect "The Institution" above his oath to Constitution.
 
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The secret service has a list.... when the prez comes to town, it gets checked.... hvt gets checked by ss, mvt gets checked by state bureau, low value gets checked by municipal or county. The list is real.

People on list.
Persistent letter writers.
Letter writers with "catch phrases"...
Certain mil MOS with dishonorable discharge.
Certain mos subject to recall who have received a felony conviction since separation.
Certain people named by Southern Poverty LC.
KKK
Radical activists who have made the news or have a felony conviction.
Some known gang affiliated individuals.
People family, friends, or enemies have reported...

That's the few I remember having to check. And yes, a few posters here fit list criteria...
 
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Funny the 3% AND THE ONE % I know and ride with are about as "diverse" as you will fine anywhere, I have to agree, Pew pew might be a plant

I participated in a poker run today to benefit a local homeless veterans’s resource center. I did not initially understand that it was being put on by a motorcycle club called Countrymen MC, but that became abundantly clear fairly quickly. It was my first time riding a street bike with a group or doing any sort of motorcycle themed event like that. My background is more motocross, but I’ve gotten too old and fat for that sort of thing, and I only got a street bike recently. So I am fairly clueless about rallies, clubs, events, etc. for street bikes. At the end of the day, a lot of money was raised for the homeless vets center, and I thought it was great, but when I looked up the MC’s Facebook page, and saw that they described themselves as three percenters, and looked that up, I really got an eyefull. That term is used to describe seditionist militias who support armed rebellion to protect the US Constitution, and the second amendment in particular. Also, it seems some members of this club provided security for the white power folks in Charlottesville, and the club responded to those events with a policy against such activity, and later some self described “three percenters” attacked a mosque, but I don’t think they were part of Countrymen MC. So I’m trying to figure out the lay of the land here. The Countrymen MC members I met seem like nice people, but I can’t put my license to practice law at risk by affiliating with any seditionist groups or militias. But I want a reality check. Is there anything to be concerned about here?
 
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@j-huskey I hear you, I support that, and it's all 'well-and-good'. But what about the firearm smuggling scandal Fast 'n Furious? What about Hitlery Clinton and all her broken laws as well as all the alleged people that 'suicided' 3 times in the back of the head?

And what about so many other things that are going on, have been going on, and have been forgotten about because they've gone on so long? And these talks/threats about 'watch out, you might be on a list' is supposed to be scary?

I'm not saying it isn't. What I am saying is, it should be A LOT more scary than what it is. I don't have the greatest memory for the litany of incidents, but many here (including yourself?) could probably rattle off many more than I just alluded to.

If the rule of law is going to exist, it needs to be a HAMMER when required, and 'diligently controlled'. Not unlike correcting young children. (no, one does not physically 'hammer' children, but there does need to be a clear and present 'line' of comprehension and deeds/misdeeds.) Ya'll get the connotation, right?

Happy Memorial day, and as my signature line has stated for years,,,,, Remember. Always.
 
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...... That term is used to describe seditionist militias who support armed rebellion to protect the US Constitution, and the second amendment in particular. Also, it seems some members of this club provided security for the white power folks in Charlottesville, and the club responded to those events with a policy against such activity, and later some self described “three percenters” attacked a mosque.....

But I want a reality check.
Based on the above, were you using the Southern Poverty Law Center as your resource for research??

If not, could you link your research resources here please? To be quite frank, it looks like you used Facebook, Google, and other leftist leaning resources. To put it lightly, they tend to not agree with organizations which want to support and defend the Constitution of the United States.

As a lawyer whose profession is based on that document, in part, I'm sure you understand.
 

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According to the Supreme Court, seditious speech is not protected speech. And professional licensing organizations, like the legal bar and medical licensing boards, can eject members if only based on popularity, such as arrest alone, despite dismissal of charges or no charges filed.
What kind of law work do you do?
 

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Just something to point out, there are a lot of true patriots that have 3% tattoos and such, a lot of them vets, that I assure you are not meant to carry negative connotations. But, make no mistake that if they thought the gov went awry, they would probably be some of the first to step up to put things back in place to protect the constitution. What we have these days seems to be some sort of lawlessness that is taking place under the guise of the rule of law. Like they are making up things to bend stuff to their will. That’s not the way things are supposed to be and there are those that think order will need to be reinstated. That doesn’t make them bad, imo, that makes them true patriots. Make no mistake the guys I know would not be associated with any evil that has been spoken about here but I do believe they would show up for country in a time of need, without hesitation! After all the oath is to protect against all enemies, foreign and domestic. I fail to see how this makes them bad guys.
Sound awfully British.
 

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The secret service has a list.... when the prez comes to town, it gets checked.... hvt gets checked by ss, mvt gets checked by state bureau, low value gets checked by municipal or county. The list is real.

People on list.
Persistent letter writers.
Letter writers with "catch phrases"...
Certain mil MOS with dishonorable discharge.
Certain mos subject to recall who have received a felony conviction since separation.
Certain people named by Southern Poverty LC.
KKK
Radical activists who have made the news or have a felony conviction.
Some known gang affiliated individuals.
People family, friends, or enemies have reported...

That's the few I remember having to check. And yes, a few posters here fit list criteria...
And then some of us on those lists, who don't hit those above.... actually get invited to come to the presser and hang out!
 

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Based on the above, were you using the Southern Poverty Law Center as your resource for research??

If not, could you link your research resources here please? To be quite frank, it looks like you used Facebook, Google, and other leftist leaning resources. To put it lightly, they tend to not agree with organizations which want to support and defend the Constitution of the United States.

As a lawyer whose profession is based on that document, in part, I'm sure you understand.
Here is one article I found.

 

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The reference to the III percent is in connection to the 3 percent of the colonists who stood up against the Kings Army during the American Revolution.

Anyone who claims to be part of that AND breaks the law or otherwise contributes to the oppression of others is a piece of shit and not in keeping with the original intent of the movement.
Unless the laws in question are in violation of the constitution.. do you think any looming civil revolution will be “lawful?” I’m not trying to start shit with any Leo, and abide by all laws.. but I can see a time soon approaching when individuals will have to choose between law and constitution.
 
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@Sean the Nailer

The secret service has a list.... when the prez comes to town, it gets checked.... hvt gets checked by ss, mvt gets checked by state bureau, low value gets checked by municipal or county. The list is real.

People on list.
Persistent letter writers.
Letter writers with "catch phrases"...
Certain mil MOS with dishonorable discharge.
Certain mos subject to recall who have received a felony conviction since separation.
Certain people named by Southern Poverty LC.
KKK
Radical activists who have made the news or have a felony conviction.
Some known gang affiliated individuals.
People family, friends, or enemies have reported...

That's the few I remember having to check. And yes, a few posters here fit list criteria...
I’d be really surprised if at least one agency didn’t have bots combing the web and filing things away for later reference, but the man power to actually look at all that stuff and process it is another matter. I came across a patent once that had accounts being linked based on password similarity, and I was surprised it wasn’t under a secrecy order.

This three percenters thing reminds me of when a US Marshall (friend of a friend) recoiled in shock when we mentioned that we were into Cowboy Action Shooting. I was surprised he knew what CAS is, but he explained that CAS is considered a militia recruiting ground, at the least. But I still shoot CAS matches. I probably already have an FBI file just for that, now that I think about it at 4 am.
 
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Ya'll keep talking about 'FBI files' and 'government watchlists' and whatnot. Do you REALLY think that there is such a thing? And even if there was, do you REALLY think that it would matter?

As in, would the FBI or some other alphabet agency ACTUALLY do anything, considering there is/has been SO MUCH over the past number of years that is far more illegal, venal, hideous, vapid, and in DIRECT CONTRAVENTION to the Constitution?

I mean seriously, does the average layman have to worry, when they don't do their job that's publicized and called out?

I'm a Law Enforcement supporter, but I also see what federal 'law enforcement' does. (capitols earned and skipped due to respect levels) Ya'll figure it out.
LOL. .gov Agencies are there to protect .gov oligarchy and .gov law breaking.
Laws are for the tax slave. The real criminals at the top and bottom get a free pass or a slap on the wrist.

And as far as would they do something? They murdered women and children multiple times.
Then you have local cops doing premeditated murder/b&e.

So yeah. It is prudent to not be the nail that stocks up. .gov is corrupt from top to bottom and ran like organized crime.
 

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According to the Supreme Court, seditious speech is not protected speech. And professional licensing organizations, like the legal bar and medical licensing boards, can eject members if only based on popularity, such as arrest alone, despite dismissal of charges or no charges filed.
We all take oaths to defend and protect a piece of paper and a set of ideas, not any men, and no government that can’t respect those ideas. When defense of the Constitution becomes “sedition” the American government no longer can claim it’s authority anyway. This country was founded on treason. Go to any rifle match and you’ll see “III” on 90% of the trucks.

No surprise your googling tells you it’s racist. Google Donald J. Trump. I’ll bet there’s even more saying he’s a racist and seditious.
There’s nothing racist or seditious about III, unless you view our Constitution as the enemy, and in that case sedition IS patriotism.

That is really where we are. Wake up.
 

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I’d be really surprised if at least one agency didn’t have bots combing the web and filing things away for later reference, but the man power to actually look at all that stuff and process it is another matter. I came across a patent once that had accounts being linked based on password similarity, and I was surprised it wasn’t under a secrecy order.

This three percenters thing reminds me of when a US Marshall (friend of a friend) recoiled in shock when we mentioned that we were into Cowboy Action Shooting. I was surprised he knew what CAS is, but he explained that CAS is considered a militia recruiting ground, at the least. But I still shoot CAS matches. I probably already have an FBI file just for that, now that I think about it at 4 am.
They’re you go. Same thing. Just because it’s a shooting sport someone is going to say it’s racist, and that person is a moron. Nothing could be less seditious that protecting and defending our Constitution. This is nothing but the criminals accusing the innocent of their own crimes. Where have we seen that before?
 

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Am I the only one that thinks this reeks of false flag? Connecting 3 percenters to mosque attacks and white power? OR do I need to lay off the caffeine?
Not sure I call
It false flag, but if Threeper is being branded as white power movement and ‘someone’ is claiming that they are a racist movement, I would be looking at the hard-left propaganda machine who are only too happy to brand “patriots” as racists and claim that it uses all its dog-whistle terms and codes to cover up its ethnic message

That is total bull...

Btw, the ‘original’ three percenters in the 1770s included a lot of freed blacks and people of color who came from the islands to fight for the colonies. It was America’s first integrated army and all the veterans received land grants and pensions, etc.

Only after the Constitutional Conventions and ratification did segregation, pushed by southern planters who later became Jacksonian Democrats, take hold.

The idea that the three percent
Movement is at all about color or religion or anything except the continued strength of the Constitution and the Bill or Rights is laughable.

But it sure makes a good target for re-branding by the hard left and the media. And if you don’t believe that they are doing it, watch what PBS Frontline, once a good show, is doing to make any patriot movement into a modern SS. All while the anarchist movement and ANTIFA get a pass and branded as “good little boys and girls.”

Goebbels would be proud.

Sirhr
 

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They’re you go. Same thing. Just because it’s a shooting sport someone is going to say it’s racist, and that person is a moron. Nothing could be less seditious that protecting and defending our Constitution. This is nothing but the criminals accusing the innocent of their own crimes. Where have we seen that before?
You just said, very well, in 50 words what it took me 300 to say... right on, Fig!
 

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Regarding defending the Constitution, and taking an oath to do so, I’m curious if three percenters defend their own interpretations of the Constitution or the Supreme Court’s interpretation? And if the Constitution were legally amended to repeal the second amendment, would three percenters defend the amended Constitution?
 
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Regarding defending the Constitution, and taking an oath to do so, I’m curious if three percenters defend their own interpretations of the Constitution or the Supreme Court’s interpretation? And if the Constitutiin were legally amended to repeal the second amendment, would three percenters defend the amended Constitution?
There is a process to amend it... and if the process is honestly implemented... then it is what it is. But the bar is very, very high!

For the fun of it, watch Ken Burns documentary Prohibition. It is free on You Tube. See how an Amendment gets passed Firnthe wrong reason... and see the results. The 18nd Amendment was the only thing ever put in the Bill if Rights to remove a freedom from people. The results were predictable.

But watch how a coalition of progressives and do-golfers and corporate entities thought they would make America all rainbows and unicorns with Prohibition. They got a nation of lawbreakers, organized crime and a national disaster.

It is worth the watch!!

The Constitution was, indeed designed to be a living document. But the process to change it was made deliberately slow and rigorous. It was not intended to be tort-ed to a death by 1000 cuts by activist judges usurping the power of elected representative legislators.

As for our own interpretations... there are those who interpret one way and those who interpret others. There are words that were argued over for almost 250 years now. And some anachronisms (like ‘men’ where ‘people’ would fit better in modern contexts...

But there are also some very bright lines.

No one is arguing for a fundamentalist, static document. That was not the intent, either. But there is a clear move to crumple it into a little ball and call it a document created by old, white slave-owners and call it, therefore, an illegitimate document. So just do away with it. Why do you think re-writing and destroying history is so trendy? There are also those that want to use it selectively (ie First Amendment good, Second Amendment bad — when was the last time you saw ACLU take up a second Amendment case, even though that is their charter???)

So a long way of answering your question that the overarching principle is that we are an nation of laws... Those laws must exist within a prescribed Constitution. And those laws should be passed by elected representatives... not leaders, bureaucrats, judges, etc.

Is anyone else simply appalled, BTW, at the recent statements by SoH Pelosi, that Congress is the main branch of government? WTH... what part of separate but Co-equal does SHE not want to recognize!

Anyway... long way of answering your question.

Sirhr
 
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