They can eat shit an die for all I care

Gunfighter14e2

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I did not vote for this, do not approve it, or allow it in my life or home. The FSA an lazy fucks of this country have brought this upon this nation w/o regard to what they were sent there for, or told in town meetings. I hope it all implodes an those who think a balance statement is the be all enjoy living on the street an eating from the garbage when it happens.

 

2ndamendfan

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Buy more ammo.

I remember when it was 15 trillion and that seemed outrageous.

Just to put things in perspective.
1 million seconds ago was 12 days ago.
1 billion seconds ago was 31.7 years ago.
1 trillion seconds ago was 31,709.8 years ago.
Wrap your head around that for a minute or two.

Both sides trying to bring our country down anyway possible.
 

Dippy

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Wait so you’re telling me the Trump and the “conservatives” we voted to office in 2016 didn’t help lower spending but make the deficit more???

Republican, Democrat, socialist, Burnie, Trump, Mayor Buttchug, don’t matter. They all thirst for power and the money spending that comes with it.

If Trump wasn’t scared of loosing is second term, he could yank the E-brake on this thing and deal with the suffering and consequences to stop the bleeding. But power, it’s one hell of a drug..
 

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Just wait till the Dems get in power and give reparations to folks who were never slaves. The black people were freed from Dems buying them, but the Dems now are trying to buy their votes. They still want to own them so they own them through the vote. The Dems will never stop buying their slaves. Never.

And Sharptongue, and the like, are getting rich helping the Dems keep the black people down. Someday the black folks will awaken and take down their masters.
 

Sean the Nailer

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I'm using my own form of logic here. I know, it's an original concept.

President Trump (I still like saying that) didn't create the debt.
President Trump didn't create the deficit.
President Trump didn't create the expenditures.
President Trump didn't create the infrastructure.
President Trump didn't establish the Federal wage scale.
President Trump didn't establish the Federal benefits packages.

But, now that President Trump's signature is going onto the cheques to pay for all these things that he inherited upon entering office, all the sudden it is "President Trump's Fault"?

Funny, I don't think so. If you buy a used car, are you responsible for any accidents that car was in before you bought it? NO. Sure, you may be on the hook for fixing/repairing any damages that were hidden under a blanket of bondo. But it is only upon actually getting into it, where you find that some snapperhead (previous owner) hacked up the fuel injectors and wedged them into place using drywall screws.

So, who wants to/gets to decide which Federal 'outgo' gets shut off, whilst the continued taxpayers 'in-go' pays for what has already been spent? So essentially, someone needs to decide which/who gets not only 'zero-return' on their tax dollars, but WILL CONTINUE to pay taxes for 'nothing' for the foreseeable future. And possibly their children's foreseeable future.

You can't borrow yourself out of debt. But as far as I'm concerned, the US has BOUGHT AND PAID FOR a number of sandboxes on the other side of the world.

Both in 'billions given to the wind' and in BLOOD AND BODY PARTS. Yeah, in my perspective ya'll own a few sandboxes. I have no problem buying gas from ya'll.
 

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@Sean the Nailer

I agree, Trump didn’t create all that you listed. But Trump willing agreed to take on the role of the President. Which means that now the responsibility of being in charge is on him. He can take the glory for good economic growth, but also has to take responsibility for an increase in the deficit since taking office.

Dealing with the deficit, along with many other issues was a big topic during the elections. Trump and the other Republicans campaign on controlling it. To which they did, they managed to control more spending...
 

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So how many presidents are gonna have to (Inherit) a mess before we force accountability? I hold Trump just as responsible as every other asshole thats ever held that seat and allowed it to go on!

And the icing on the cake is that when you see the raw numbers, its always associated with what each individual American owes. Fuck those motherfuckers!

We dont owe shit
 

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I sure would like to see some serious welfare reform and an end of Obama phones.
Check each and everyone that gets welfare, EBT, WIC etc. and the list goes on, to see if they are really someone who needs it or if it is just a way of life for them.

I know it will never happen as there would be blood in the streets if Baby Momma got cut off. Go get a job Bitch. Earn your keep instead of hatching crotch fruit for a raise.

I also know it is but a drop in the bucket but I do think it is WAY out of control and in fact a RUNAWAY hurtling down the tracks.

Off yo Ass and on yo feet, you have a job to go to. NO welfare for you anymore.
 

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It’s the first of the month, get up, get up, cash yo checks and get up....

We’re is AJ when we need him?

I’ll say it, where in the constitution does it grant gov power to provide federal welfare, gov provided communication, gov provided food, etc...
 

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It’s the first of the month, get up, get up, cash yo checks and get up....

We’re is AJ when we need him?

I’ll say it, where in the constitution does it grant gov power to provide federal welfare, gov provided communication, gov provided food, etc...
 

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When trump signed the first spending budget he became owner of this tragic scam.

I'm using my own form of logic here. I know, it's an original concept.

President Trump (I still like saying that) didn't create the debt.
President Trump didn't create the deficit.
President Trump didn't create the expenditures.
President Trump didn't create the infrastructure.
President Trump didn't establish the Federal wage scale.
President Trump didn't establish the Federal benefits packages.

But, now that President Trump's signature is going onto the cheques to pay for all these things that he inherited upon entering office, all the sudden it is "President Trump's Fault"?

Funny, I don't think so. If you buy a used car, are you responsible for any accidents that car was in before you bought it? NO. Sure, you may be on the hook for fixing/repairing any damages that were hidden under a blanket of bondo. But it is only upon actually getting into it, where you find that some snapperhead (previous owner) hacked up the fuel injectors and wedged them into place using drywall screws.

So, who wants to/gets to decide which Federal 'outgo' gets shut off, whilst the continued taxpayers 'in-go' pays for what has already been spent? So essentially, someone needs to decide which/who gets not only 'zero-return' on their tax dollars, but WILL CONTINUE to pay taxes for 'nothing' for the foreseeable future. And possibly their children's foreseeable future.

You can't borrow yourself out of debt. But as far as I'm concerned, the US has BOUGHT AND PAID FOR a number of sandboxes on the other side of the world.

Both in 'billions given to the wind' and in BLOOD AND BODY PARTS. Yeah, in my perspective ya'll own a few sandboxes. I have no problem buying gas from ya'll.
 
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Back in 2010 I was asked to leave the Dr's office my wife was in do to the following.

me setting there reading some B/S skirt book about healthy cooking. 4 people came in, two I knew from TV as Birmingham city leaders an I assume the other two were wife's, or hookers.
They started talking about the citys budget for next year. Now listening intently, I heard one say don't worry about that, let the next administration deal with it. before I even thought I ask how long had they been can kickers? They both looked at me an said it was none of my business how the city was ran, as they were in charge, needless to say it went down hill real quick after that, to the point LEO's were called on me. Good thing they were thinkers, instead of robots,...
 

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I'm using my own form of logic here. I know, it's an original concept.

President Trump (I still like saying that) didn't create the debt.
President Trump didn't create the deficit.
President Trump didn't create the expenditures.
President Trump didn't create the infrastructure.
President Trump didn't establish the Federal wage scale.
President Trump didn't establish the Federal benefits packages.

But, now that President Trump's signature is going onto the cheques to pay for all these things that he inherited upon entering office, all the sudden it is "President Trump's Fault"?

Funny, I don't think so. If you buy a used car, are you responsible for any accidents that car was in before you bought it? NO. Sure, you may be on the hook for fixing/repairing any damages that were hidden under a blanket of bondo. But it is only upon actually getting into it, where you find that some snapperhead (previous owner) hacked up the fuel injectors and wedged them into place using drywall screws.

So, who wants to/gets to decide which Federal 'outgo' gets shut off, whilst the continued taxpayers 'in-go' pays for what has already been spent? So essentially, someone needs to decide which/who gets not only 'zero-return' on their tax dollars, but WILL CONTINUE to pay taxes for 'nothing' for the foreseeable future. And possibly their children's foreseeable future.

You can't borrow yourself out of debt. But as far as I'm concerned, the US has BOUGHT AND PAID FOR a number of sandboxes on the other side of the world.

Both in 'billions given to the wind' and in BLOOD AND BODY PARTS. Yeah, in my perspective ya'll own a few sandboxes. I have no problem buying gas from ya'll.
Who in the fuck would use drywall screws to hold an injector in?
That's just wrong.

But to the point,lets look at the trillions still OWED US FROM WWII.
Most of Europe owes us money from the 40's
 
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There is always a choice, but the sad part is that it does not shut down ALL govt if a budget is not passed. Due to our fiat monetary system, it thrives on debt. Our debt is so large now, it can never be repaid.

Just remember when your in that voting booth, there is no difference in party's.
 
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There is always a choice, but the sad part is that it does not shut down ALL govt if a budget is not passed. Due to our fiat monetary system, it thrives on debt. Our debt is so large now, it can never be repaid.

Just remember when your in that voting booth, there is no difference in party's.

The most relevant part of that video I linked above is the end which details why the debt can't be repaid.

 
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There is realistically NO way to fix the issue until it hits the wall one way or another.
We are LONG past the point of being able to turn the train around or even bring it to a halt
As the founding fathers warned us, once people figured out they could vote themselves unlimited gifts from the public treasury it was all over.

The congress critters grind the country to a halt at the thought of (horror) having the next year's budget simply be the same as last year's budget. To them and their power base that is a horrible horrible attack on them. They of course say "Well just raise taxes on the 'rich'" The problem of course being that even if you took 100% of the money from ALL the 'rich' it still wouldn't plug the deficit gap for more than a speed bump and you'd instantly be Venezuela. (Also what the 'rich' are worth on paper would be near nothing if the government stole all their stocks because then who are they going to sell those stocks to (having just taken all the money from the 'rich')?

It will continue to mount and mount with little protests here and there till it gets really bad
Then the Democrats will go into full stealing mode, they WILL steal your IRAs, 401Ks, SS money & eventually (as shown in europe) your bank account and then come after your property when you have no money left... It still won't help.

It won't change till a hard wall is hit like the post WWI German Weimar republic, or a total collapse and changeover of the government into something new, or some other such thing where basically everybody looses everything and starts back out from dirt & what they have in their hands (except of course the top dogs of the international bankers who wind up with everything as always and you can enslave yourself once again to try to get back a bit of what they took from you.

The only way out of the cycle for good would be a full on extinction level event followed by a religious/ideological crusade that makes the idea of lending money for interest and for that matter any "bankers" extinct for good. But some idiots I'm sure will eventually let them back in give it 50 years, 100 years, 500 years or whatever... stupids will let it happen again.
 

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Aint it a bitch once you realize Trump is just a bump... Worse yet there be countless of morons who actually think he matters or has some kind of ability to change things... You're in for a rough ride (like Russian 1917 one which basically wasted century of a "life of a nation") and hopefully your "short stick" won't mean end of a human existence.

As soon as Trump came to an office plans were executed to neuter him and anyone who dared to even think of considering honoring promises made in election campaign (Russia narrative). His election was a fluke an underestimation a huge flaw in overconfident elite who thought they have succeeded in mass brainwashing and were firmly believing in their own grandeur. They were wrong and they won't make the same mistake again. As said this thing needs to hit a wall sooner the better...
 

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Meh, as long as the USA is the premier superpower and biggest economy and we maintain the strong dollar we can shoulder more debt. It's all fake anyways.
The Government debt is mostly owed to the US citizens anyways so when it goes bust then they'll have to liquidate everything to us.
Seeing the spending and tax cuts in place, I think we'll see the fall of the US Government sooner than later. I'm looking forward to buying a couple M4s and a Reaper drone equipped with the Gorgon Stare module.
 
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As if we really know what goes on behind closed doors

The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Not a fan but damn he drives these crazy leftist commies craaazy. If theyre going kamikaze and bursting into flames more power to him.

The government is way bigger than Trump. To get anything done he has to play ball. That undoubtedly means agreeing to shit he doesnt neccesarily agree with to to get some things done that he does. In a lot of cases his hands get tied and because we have the type of gov we do. And be thankful for that unless you want a dictatorship.
That would go for any of us in that position. Could he go more extreme? Sure.

Honestly i think hes doing a pretty good job considering the hurdles and roadblocks and not being a DC political insider plant.



Not all rich people are part of the oligarchy. Some actually have good intentions.
 

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Anyone who thinks that there will be the ability to 'instant remedy' the debt load is completely delusional.

That same level of delusion that thinks "reparations" for slaves (allegedly) is a viable concept.

Another mentioned earlier about the WWII costs/debts. There are many soldiers and families still alive who fought and/or assisted in the war. Directly, as opposed to "multiple forking branches" type of thing. I'd look towards 'reparations' to them MUCH sooner than anything else. And yes, the debt/cost of such to come from the EUROPEAN Countries, not the US government.

Remember, I'm not an AmeriYank, nor am I living in the U.S.ofA. And of course, I'm also suggesting that JAPAN pay their dues too, with this concept. For a topic, that is.

And in response to the previous "fuel injectors and drywall screws" analogy above,,,,, you all KNOW that there are idiots out there who couldn't organize a piss-up in a brewery. Look at some of your former presidents. And yet when the problem is thrust upon you, then it is up to YOU to deal with it, no matter what it is. Right?

Which brought me to that question of "who's going to continue paying taxes, but not get any benefits for 'x' long?" Line starts to the right.
 

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Well then you're REALLY gonna fucking love this...

Congress is now getting ready to start that "reparations" bullshit --guess which gang is spearheading this? They'll keep it going through the election, long enough to pander to their pet voters "victims united" --black, gays, etc.

So promising 40 acres and a mule to get votes so they can play government and take more Rights... Only I think I'm done giving anymore. No incentive to play the game anymore I fear. If we keep pretending this country still exists under the BOR, we're only doomed to keep getting worse and worse "leaders" and mark my word, they WILL spend this motherfucker into the ground, then the rich and well to do will jump ship and move into one of the several mansions they already have filled and serviced in any number of greedbag havens like Dubai, etc.

Watch the ball now... If you can.