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So sexy.... how much does it weigh in at without the bipod?

That is a great hunting set up. All it needs in a lightweight short can like TBAC ultra 5, SiCo omega, EA Vox S, or DA Nomad... all direct threads to keep it shorter and lighter.


(Sorry if it was posted earlier just didn’t see the weight)
 

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So sexy.... how much does it weigh in at without the bipod?

That is a great hunting set up. All it needs in a lightweight short can like TBAC ultra 5, SiCo omega, EA Vox S, or DA Nomad... all direct threads to keep it shorter and lighter.


(Sorry if it was posted earlier just didn’t see the weight)
As pictured without bipod - 9.4 lbs. i could easily cut 1lb by removing the brake, full arca rail , and extra sling stud.
 

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Finally took the fix out today. Was shooting very poorly from a tripod until I realized I’m pulling the shots and it’s very obvious I’m right handed. I brought my CNC machine vise with me to help sight it in. Using it to take myself out of the equation, I saw sub 3/4 moa with 8 mph wind gusts @100 yards.

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Pulling too hard with finger on tripod /\

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Corrected finger yank from tripod /\6D4EFA6F-EB4E-4652-8CD3-B1ECA154E953.jpeg
4 shot group with hand guard cranked down in machine vise /\

Ammo was factory Hornady ELD-M 147

All the shots were back to back, only waited for the rifle to cool down between each grouping but the barrel was still warm. Still happy with my investment, knowing that it’s a hunting/utility rifle and weighing 9.8 lbs with a Viper PST Gen 2. Maybe it needs more breaking in, shot about 60 rounds through it total. If I get to the point of holding 1/2 MOA with it, it’ll get better glass but till then, it’ll serve it’s purpose putting coyotes down and venison on the table.
 

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Took the Fix to Thunder Valley Precision for open range day a couple weeks back and it way outperformed my expectations. Hitting steel at a thousand became boring so I tried my luck at a mile. I took 15 shots or so between rain showers and came very close but never hit. Not bad for 10 pound rifle in 6.5!

The best part was handing my rifle to brand new shooters who were also able to hit at a thousand with some help.
 

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Had Dave Tooley spin up a 22” Sendero light Proof CF barrel. Rifle with scope is down to 9lbs and is much better balanced compared to the 22” medium Palma B/T it came with. After only 10 rounds down the tube, the same load that hammered in the original did this (1st in the same hole, 5th was me):
 

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Had Dave Tooley spin up a 22” Sendero light Proof CF barrel. Rifle with scope is down to 9lbs and is much better balanced compared to the 22” medium Palma B/T it came with. After only 10 rounds down the tube, the same load that hammered in the original did this (1st in the same hole, 5th was me):
What’s the saving over a sendero barrel? Does it need to be the sendero light to fit under the tube?

I’m going to have Dave do me a 6 creedmoor proof.
 

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What’s the saving over a sendero barrel? Does it need to be the sendero light to fit under the tube?

I’m going to have Dave do me a 6 creedmoor proof.
Per Proof, 3ozs. I don't think you need to go light Sendero for clearance except possibly for the sling mount.
 

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For anyone interested 🤙🏼

Finally someone had the balls the come out and critique the rifle. Agree with him about everything he said except for accuracy. It’s not a 1 MOA rifle it’s a 1/2 MOA rifle all day. If you’re not getting that then you’re the issue or you need to warranty something.
Love the rifle, few small stupid issues I’m sure QC will iron out and the muzzle device (if not using a suppressor), stock, cheek riser suck. Funny how he gets praised for being honest but we’re just internet trolls when we have feedback about it.

Also incase anyone is wondering this is what proof is offering from them directly. Still trying to decide which barrel I want next because I did want a proof 16.5-18inch 6.5 creed.

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Finally someone had the balls the come out and critique the rifle. Agree with him about everything he said except for accuracy. It’s not a 1 MOA rifle it’s a 1/2 MOA rifle all day. If you’re not getting that then you’re the issue or you need to warranty something.
Love the rifle, few small stupid issues I’m sure QC will iron out and the muzzle device (if not using a suppressor), stock, cheek riser suck. Funny how he gets praised for being honest but we’re just internet trolls when we have feedback about it.

Also incase anyone is wondering this is what proof is offering from them directly. Still trying to decide which barrel I want next because I did want a proof 16.5-18inch 6.5 creed.

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I shoot surpessed and shot a uk prl match with my 24” proof 6.5 creedmoor barrel. I didn’t have issue with the cheek piece. It’s all personal perspectives. There are other things I don’t like. But then there are things I don’t like about my AI. That’s why we all own more than one rifle.

As for proof barrel their options suck. I want an 18” 6 creedmoor. I’m getting a spare 16.5 factory barrel and using the extension for a custom proof done by a Tooley.
 

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Finally someone had the balls the come out and critique the rifle. Agree with him about everything he said except for accuracy. It’s not a 1 MOA rifle it’s a 1/2 MOA rifle all day. If you’re not getting that then you’re the issue or you need to warranty something.
Love the rifle, few small stupid issues I’m sure QC will iron out and the muzzle device (if not using a suppressor), stock, cheek riser suck. Funny how he gets praised for being honest but we’re just internet trolls when we have feedback about it.

Also incase anyone is wondering this is what proof is offering from them directly. Still trying to decide which barrel I want next because I did want a proof 16.5-18inch 6.5 creed.

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Where did you find that?
 

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I shoot surpessed and shot a uk prl match with my 24” proof 6.5 creedmoor barrel. I didn’t have issue with the cheek piece. It’s all personal perspectives. There are other things I don’t like. But then there are things I don’t like about my AI. That’s why we all own more than one rifle.

As for proof barrel their options suck. I want an 18” 6 creedmoor. I’m getting a spare 16.5 factory barrel and using the extension for a custom proof done by a Tooley.
It's funny on one hand you say how the shortcomings of the fix are personal perspective, then in the next breath , say proof selection sucks - maybe you just have an odd request
 

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It's funny on one hand you say how the shortcomings of the fix are personal perspective, then in the next breath , say proof selection sucks - maybe you just have an odd request
What is funny about my post? It’s just my personal perspective that I’m sharing.

I think proof should supply all three calibres
In the same barrel lengths. Or at least 18”, 20”, 22”

The Fix handles better with shorter barrels and shorter barrels handle far better with a silencer attached than a longer barrel.

I want an 18” 6 creedmoor proof barrel to compliment my 24” 6.5 creedmoor proof barrel.

What length would other people like? Maybe proof research would make them available if there was a few more people who want the same thing.
 
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What is funny about my post? It’s just my personal perspective that I’m sharing.

I think proof should supply all three calibres
In the same barrel lengths. Or at least 18”, 20”, 22”

The Fix handles better with shorter barrels and shorter barrels handle far better with a silencer attached than a longer barrel.

I want an 18” 6 creedmoor proof barrel to compliment my 24” 6.5 creedmoor proof barrel.

What length would other people like? Maybe proof research would make them available if there was a few more people who want the same thing.
I agree, I think the Fix really shines for me as a hunting rifle. The distances I'm killing deer or pigs, they don't care if it comes from 16" barrel or a 26" one. The shorter barrel is much easier to handle/pack.

I'd love to get my hands on a 16.5" or 18" 6.5 barrel. Hopefully when I save a few more pennies I'll order a blank and spin one up in a few months.
 

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What is funny about my post? It’s just my personal perspective that I’m sharing.

I think proof should supply all three calibres
In the same barrel lengths. Or at least 18”, 20”, 22”

The Fix handles better with shorter barrels and shorter barrels handle far better with a silencer attached than a longer barrel.

I want an 18” 6 creedmoor proof barrel to compliment my 24” 6.5 creedmoor proof barrel.

What length would other people like? Maybe proof research would make them available if there was a few more people who want the same thing.
Its funny because when the reveiwer said certain parts of the rifle suck, you say its just personal perspective. Then you go on to say Proof selection sucks, when really, in your perspective it sucks, but really that selection will satisfy 90% of demand
 

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I agree that the proof selection sucks, but there’s a reason for it. Those lengths coincide with their small shank blanks(1.13”). According to the rep I spoke to, they’ll be making some shorter lengths in those blanks, which will hopefully translate into some shorter Q prefits.

I’ve got a 22” 6 creed on the way. That’’ll get disassembled and sold here, and i’ll Install its extension on a 16.5” blank. Long barrels on the Fix totally miss the point in my opinion.
 
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What is funny about my post? It’s just my personal perspective that I’m sharing.

I think proof should supply all three calibres
In the same barrel lengths. Or at least 18”, 20”, 22”

The Fix handles better with shorter barrels and shorter barrels handle far better with a silencer attached than a longer barrel.

I want an 18” 6 creedmoor proof barrel to compliment my 24” 6.5 creedmoor proof barrel.
Its funny because when the reveiwer said certain parts of the rifle suck, you say its just personal perspective. Then you go on to say Proof selection sucks, when really, in your perspective it sucks, but really that selection will satisfy 90% of demand
Of course it only sucks to me and might suit 90% of the market. If only I had started my sentence with IMHO 😂
 

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I agree that the proof selection sucks, but there’s a reason for it. Those lengths coincide with their small shank blanks(1.13”). According to the rep I spoke to, they’ll be making some shorter lengths in those blanks, which will hopefully translate into some shorter Q prefits.

I’ve got a 22” 6 creed on the way. That’’ll get disassembled and sold here, and i’ll Install its extension on a 16.5” blank. Long barrels on the Fix totally miss the point in my opinion.
I’ve just had an email from Montey Howe at Proof they won’t do a custom order so I’m going to continue with my plan to have Dave Tooley do me an 18” 6 creedmoor.

Just a shame they haven’t put actual thought into this. They make short blanks to order after all.
 

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I’ve just had an email from Montey Howe at Proof they won’t do a custom order so I’m going to continue with my plan to have Dave Tooley do me an 18” 6 creedmoor.

Just a shame they haven’t put actual thought into this. They make short blanks to order after all.

The problem there is they don’t make an 18” carbon blank. You could go steel of course.
 
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bugger I missed the most important part. Even put an order in for the 18” barrel with a store and wasn’t told it isn’t even available.
Kind of a weird omission I think. They exist throughout their line. You could always just go custom steel. Weight would be near identical, you’d just miss out on the Pimp factor of carbon.

Here’s what I show for their carbon 6mm blanks. I’ll do a 16.5”. 1.5” shorter than an 18” won’t mean anything on target imo.
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Kind of a weird omission I think. They exist throughout their line. You could always just go custom steel. Weight would be near identical, you’d just miss out on the Pimp factor of carbon.

Here’s what I show for their carbon 6mm blanks. I’ll do a 16.5”. 1.5” shorter than an 18” won’t mean anything on target imo.
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16.5 it is then. I want the 6mm for fox amd
Small deer here in the U.K.
 

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Got my Lancer mag today and still has feeding issues when moving the bolt slow. Going to try the velcro trick next.
Gotta run the bolt, unless you’re trying to be quiet on a stalk, push the back of the magazine forward then push the bolt forward slowly. Should work
 

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Gotta run the bolt, unless you’re trying to be quiet on a stalk, push the back of the magazine forward then push the bolt forward slowly. Should work
Requiring a "user manual" to operate a bolt action is a fail. If after over 100 years of bolt action technology it doesn't work in a foolproof manner 100% of the time then the design needs to be corrected.

I love my Fix but this issue should be acknowledged and (pardon the pun) fixed.
 

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Requiring a "user manual" to operate a bolt action is a fail. If after over 100 years of bolt action technology it doesn't work in a foolproof manner 100% of the time then the design needs to be corrected.

I love my Fix but this issue should be acknowledged and (pardon the pun) fixed.
I agree but also disagree. Run it with authority and have no issue, it was designed and marketed as a utility rifle. If i came into it expecting buttery smooth Surgeon, I’d be disappointed too.
 

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Being smooth or not is subjective and not an indicator of a design flaw. Having the rifle mis-feed in a repeatable manner confirmed by multiple people on this thread is a design or manufacturing issue.

What if your car engine were to shut down if you press the accelerator too slow? It would be intolerable and the manufacturer would issue a fix / recall.

We seem to tolerate this because we have some form of emotional investment in our firearms and buyers confirmation bias.
 
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Being smooth or not is subjective and not an indicator of a design flaw. Having the rifle mis-feed in a repeatable manner confirmed by multiple people on this thread is a design or manufacturing issue.

What if your car engine were to shut down if you press the accelerator too slow? It would be intolerable and the manufacturer would issue a fix / recall.

We seem to tolerate this because we have some form of emotional investment in our firearms and buyers confirmation bias.
That last sentence is very true. I guess we will just have to wait see if there will be a remedy
 
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I don’t want to have to regulate hand speed in order to make the rifle work. This isn’t a situation like “limp wristing” a pistol. What is odd is that Q actually shared a review video recently on social media and the reviewer even mentioned this very problem.
 
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I don’t want to have to regulate hand speed in order to make the rifle work. This isn’t a situation like “limp wristing” a pistol. What is odd is that Q actually shared a review video recently on social media and the reviewer even mentioned this very problem.
He mentioned that very problem along with the solution and wasn't really complaining about it.......
 

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He mentioned that very problem along with the solution and wasn't really complaining about it.......
Correct. The solution being a strip of velcro as a shim on a $3k rifle. He said he didn’t have that specific issue with the 308. Seems to be more the 6.5.

I love this rifle and won’t let this issue take away from that. Period. However, I don’t think I agree with “well just slap a piece of velcro on and it SHOULD be fine” answer.

Buy a car and you find out in order for your doors to latch and lock you have to slam them shut with the correct amount of force. I don’t think many people would be fine with just tossing some velcro in the door jam.
 

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Correct. The solution being a strip of velcro as a shim on a $3k rifle. He said he didn’t have that specific issue with the 308. Seems to be more the 6.5.

I love this rifle and won’t let this issue take away from that. Period. However, I don’t think I agree with “well just slap a piece of velcro on and it SHOULD be fine” answer.

Buy a car and you find out in order for your doors to latch and lock you have to slam them shut with the correct amount of force. I don’t think many people would be fine with just tossing some velcro in the door jam.
Mine was the opposite.
Had feeding issues all the time when it was 308 but now it’s 6.5 creed I haven’t had a single one in nearly 1000 rounds. With that being said also I bought brand new 10 round pmags at the same time as the new barrel and it’s all working.
 

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Tried the velcro and A) the velcro didn’t want to stay in place and B) didn’t seem to overly help. Feels like the casing keeps getting stuck on the lip of the feed ramp. There is a lot of play forward and back with the mag. Just seems odd. I may just have to get a hold of Q after the the 4th to see what they will do.