Strzock on the hot seat.....

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well that dude is a lying POS. Using his job to push personal opinions ... i would be fired, we all would be ... he should be. POS.
 
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Rthur

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You know... I've wondered for years how powerful a "Silent Armed March" would be....

No signs. No noise. No talking. no rioting. No Nothing. Just four rows of men, armed, walking silently and in good step... through the capital... for 3 to 4 hours... It would take that long for 100K people to march up Pa Avenue to the capital, and quietly return to their vehicles and go home. Again... not a peep. Dead silence.

I think such an event would be very powerful...

But I think it would scare the swamp to such an extent that it could never, ever happen.

Put the image in your head...

Sirhr
Would be on board for this.
First problem is they have us running around trying to pay our bills and all the other's bills.

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Srikaleak

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Your down play of the seriousness of the coup is shocking.
Lol, what coup? The whole point was that Trump wasn't supposed to be elected President. THAT would have been the coup. Now that President Trump is Pres and these guys were caught the question is more: can Justice dept employees who broadcast their political affiliation be allowed to continue investigating political suspects fairly and impartially. The answer to this specific case sounds like no. He could still be useful investigating rapists and pedophiles. I bet there's an FBI rule named after this guy now about deleting all social media accounts if you want to be an FBI agent.
 

ArmyJerry

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Jeff Sessions is this what you been up to instead of doing your job??????, get off the forum and do your job Shiteferbrains.
Lol, what coup? The whole point was that Trump wasn't supposed to be elected President. THAT would have been the coup. Now that President Trump is Pres and these guys were caught the question is more: can Justice dept employees who broadcast their political affiliation be allowed to continue investigating political suspects fairly and impartially. The answer to this specific case sounds like no. He could still be useful investigating rapists and pedophiles. I bet there's an FBI rule named after this guy now about deleting all social media accounts if you want to be an FBI agent.
 

Veer_G

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He was still badass!
Not really. It turns out that he was the actor originally picked to play GySgt Hartman. Emery jumped in after the role having seen how short they were coming in depicting a DI. Originallly, he was a technical adviser.
 

Veer_G

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This guy might have sealed the fate of the union. This is bad, really really bad.

most of s have lived a good life, and are at the final part of it. We owe our country and kids better.
I'd rather not leave behind a world full of shit for the grandkids that I might or might not see. I owe them that much, as you said.
 

pmclaine

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Lol, what coup? The whole point was that Trump wasn't supposed to be elected President. THAT would have been the coup. Now that President Trump is Pres and these guys were caught the question is more: can Justice dept employees who broadcast their political affiliation be allowed to continue investigating political suspects fairly and impartially. The answer to this specific case sounds like no. He could still be useful investigating rapists and pedophiles. I bet there's an FBI rule named after this guy now about deleting all social media accounts if you want to be an FBI agent.
Must be nice to go through life oblivious.

Im being nice.

The alternative is you are full of shit.
 
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MarinePMI

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After watching the show yesterday, I'm thinking this circus may be the perfect thing for Trump's political action committee.

Strzok clearly showed himself playing a role, much like an actor, yesterday. What gave it away, was him breaking that character role in between questions, smiling and looking around at Demcratic senators/representatives, as if looking for approval, and admiring his ability to assume that "dignified, offended, aggressive, wrongly accused federal agent" role. That will be his undoing.

Were I Trump's PAC, I'd be running ads, showing him breaking role. Remember, this guy is a CI turd. And that's what he looked like yesterday; someone taking on a character role...except he kept breaking from the role, to smirk and smile, obviously taking pride in how he had just responded while assuming that character role. I'd run clips of him breaking that role and ask the American public, is this what you want as acceptable? If so, don't vote. If you find this behavior pathetic, infuriating and a symbol of what the swamp is, then get out and vote, and ensure that President Trump maintains control of Congress so that the swamp creatures like this can be held accountable.

Now, that being said, I have no illusions that the GOP is much better. But. This election is not about winning the war, it's about a flanking action. This election is all about pushing on the flanks, to allow Trump to maintain enough field to maneuver, to continue his plan to set policy, appoint judges and chip away at the swamp. I have no doubt that after the election, you'll see Trump go after GOP folks again too. For now though, it's about winning the flanking action of the mid-term elections. Trump is using the GOP's own greed for power in an attempt to keep control of the Congress. Easier to manipulate the enemies you keep close, than the ones kept at arm's distance...

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I think the real reason why we never actually see anything get done or anybody actually prosecuted and held accountable for their actions other than a congressional hearing which is just a dog and pony show to make it look like somebody still gives a shit up in DC. Is because I believe about 95% of the people who could actually do something about it have too many skeletons in their closet also that they never want brought to the light of day. Also DC is a big taxpayer funded gravey train that nobody wants to get off of either willing or not.
 

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Yup... the founders envisioned public service as a sacrifice... leave your farms, businesses, careers, and give up your monetary gains... in order to do good for the community in which you were able to grow successful. Give back.

Now D.C. is a get-rich-quick scheme for scumbags, charlatans and the inept who have nothing to give to the nation... and look at it as a big trough to feed in.

Too bad we can't stipulate that anyone in elected office must leave that office... with the same bank account they had when they declared a run for office. Every penny over and above what 'was' there... goes back to the public coffers. No more getting rich off of government.

That would weed out some of the scum... some.

Sirhr
 

Veer_G

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After watching the show yesterday, I'm thinking this circus may be the perfect thing for Trump's political action committee.

Strzok clearly showed himself playing a role, much like an actor, yesterday. What gave it away, was him breaking that character role in between questions, smiling and looking around at Demcratic senators/representatives, as if looking for approval, and admiring his ability to assume that "dignified, offended, aggressive, wrongly accused federal agent" role. That will be his undoing.
What I caught coming off Strzok reminded me a lot of the crossed-knee, tobacco-chewing "don't give a shit" attitude on the faces of Southern law enforcement in the old news photos of the legal proceedings surrounding the various incidents in the Deep South in the 1960s. I caught the cracking veneer, too, and his facial expressions almost reminded me of Nicholson's jack Napier/Joker character.
 

pmclaine

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Unlike Stroker Ill admit Im biased.

I want the rule of law and strong adherence to our Constitution.

I have no favorites for any personality beyond their loyalty to the Country/Constitution.

If a person can not view Strokeits performance yesterday and not develop an opinion the guy lied his ass off than that person is seriously lacking in their intuitive skills or invested in the alternative to what was offered by the 2016 election.

I can somewhat respect the Bernie voter for their desire to get free shit but supporting this corrupt Clinton coup confounds me.

Do you think that a banana republic that operates in this manner would afford you any sort of freedom.

I hope the #walkaway movement is watching this and picking up steam.

How can there be a blue wave or any hope for the Democrat party when they refuse to condemn what was done by the Clinton control of their party.

As an aside this does not dismiss the actions of Obama.

These are his people.

What I think will happen if this goes anywhere will be that Obama will try to come through looking innocent a totally blame the Clintons for this.

Obama is working right now running his shadow govt and we see the results of his "organizing" in all these efforts to divide the country.

Pure evil from both.

Neither cares who gets hurt.
 

sirhrmechanic

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Veer... I had not caught that... because I mainly listened. But in watching him on the Tube this AM, I think you nailed it right on the head. "I know my local jury won't convict me of anything.... all I did was lynch some ******rs and burn down a home and blow up a church. These are my people and I won't get convicted of anything... I did it for them... and I am the law in these parts!"

Well, they won't convict anyone... right up until the point at which they did.

The smug, above-the-law, all powerful... with a giant ego and a huge amount of hubris... yet not knowing he is about to get crushed. And not seeing the train coming. There is great irony there.

But I assume that he and his ilk are always assured by their 'swamp,' whether it's in Neshoba County, MS... or a DC hearing room. Thus their smiling countenance and arrogant attitude.

The irony is that down in Neshoba... the FBI were the good guys. My how the worm has turned... (there is an arcane reference in that...)

Sirhr
 
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FatBoy

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I listened for awhile while I was stuck on I24 yesterday. That smug fucker knows he's fine, and nothing is going to happen to him. Unless he was stupid enough to actually send an electronic message saying he actually changed a decision or an outcome based on his hatred for all things Trump, he's going right back to work. This was a dog and pony show for us.

Nothing any of us can do will do shit about it. Best we could hope for is Trump to fire everyone from Sessions down to the 1st level managers, but then who rolls in to take their places? when you pull 1000 buckets out of a 10,000 gallon swamp, the void fills right back up with swamp water.
 

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^^^ Yeah... I think I will know when I need an ambulance. I think I need to call Midway and order 300 lbs of rifle powder.

And as for it not mattering... Yeah... it does. In 1776 people got all antsy-in-their-pantsy... for less. Far less.
Yea, like a $.01 tax on tea!!!
I'd take off work and go to DC for a silent march. I totally agree, it would freak them the hell out. I would think with 5,500,000 in the NRA and 70,000.000 gun owners we could scrape up a mil (an actual million).
 

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#79
Yup... the founders envisioned public service as a sacrifice... leave your farms, businesses, careers, and give up your monetary gains... in order to do good for the community in which you were able to grow successful. Give back.
Now D.C. is a get-rich-quick scheme for scumbags, charlatans and the inept who have nothing to give to the nation... and look at it as a big trough to feed in.
Too bad we can't stipulate that anyone in elected office must leave that office... with the same bank account they had when they declared a run for office. Every penny over and above what 'was' there... goes back to the public coffers. No more getting rich off of government.
That would weed out some of the scum... some.
Sirhr
Interestingly enough on the news coverage of the hate for Trump's supreme court nominee, the communists are hinting that he shouldn't be in because he isn't rich and still has an average upper middle class life after many years in public service unlike all the rest of the millionaires of his "peers".

Funny how that now being a tireless public servant that doesn't line your pockets with "speaking fees" and "book deals" is supposedly now something that the Democrats want to use against you?

Perhaps it's because if you have a totally corrupt system, the worst thing ever is somebody incorruptible. That's one of the reasons they hate Trump to the max, because he is too hard to bribe, already a billionaire, vs Hillary had her hand out from day 1 and never stopped.

Imagine if a congress critter was actually happy to live off their congressional salary and any other actually really earned money they made & wasn't somehow becoming a multimillionare on a $170k a year salary by "smart well timed investments" and "fees" etc? How bad would that make the rest look & how would they be sure of making them do what they wanted?
 

Srikaleak

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You joined 5-11-18 an have 191 posts. Either you don't have a life or have a clear agenda. My guess reading so far, is agenda.
I've been stalking for about 6 months and when I bought my rifle I decided I should join the community and share the wealth of knowledge I've obtained from you guys here on the hide.
Arguing politics with people across the isle from me is just a bonus. No agenda here, I just want to discuss things. Sure I may be liberal but I'm more tree hugging, non violence, live and let live libertarian than I am angsty SJW, everyones a rascist, fascist rhetoric leftist.
 

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Trump needs to declassify a bunch of shit and let the public read what is rightfully theirs to read without Rod Rosenstein blacking out all the content.
Rosenstein's little press conference today... is utter proof that the Swamp is out to torpedo Trump and any chances he has on the world stage.

Indicting a bunch of Russians, publicly, while Trump is out of the country and on the eve of a meeting with Putin? Either there is some game going on that I can't fathom... or Rosenstein just did his best to torpedo the first face-to-face. I can't believe the WH would have approved that announcement today... And if it involves Russia... Sessions is recused. So either Rosenstein did it on his own... in which case it is a clear attempt to wreck the summit next week. Or he got approval from the WH for the announcement... and there is some game on that I can't figure out.

Cheers,

Sirhr

P.S. The Bonus Marchers did not get their 'march' stopped. They got 'cleared out' of their Hooverville/Shantytown when it was starting to be a public health mess, and a magnet for Communist agitators and criminals. The Bonus Marchers were tier-one Americans... mostly combat veterans... and all veterans from WW1 who wanted their enlistment bonus, payable in 1945 IIRC, paid a few years early because they needed the money due to the Depression. The "Bonus Army" was not the problem. They became, however, a target of Red Agitators, Communists and others who were stirring up violence. And those 25 percent or so who remained in DC after the march were not entirely representative of the marchers.... they were spoiling for a fight. Some believed they were ready to stage a revolution and the government claimed to have Intel to that effect, though, historically speaking, that intel was probably a bridge too far. At one point, there were even rumors that the Marines billeted in DC would have supported the insurrection, which is why they were not used to break up the camps. Though, again, I seriously doubt there was ANY truth to that.
 

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Rosenstein's little press conference today... is utter proof that the Swamp is out to torpedo Trump and any chances he has on the world stage.

Indicting a bunch of Russians, publicly, while Trump is out of the country and on the eve of a meeting with Putin? Either there is some game going on that I can't fathom... or Rosenstein just did his best to torpedo the first face-to-face. I can't believe the WH would have approved that announcement today... And if it involves Russia... Sessions is recused. So either Rosenstein did it on his own... in which case it is a clear attempt to wreck the summit next week. Or he got approval from the WH for the announcement... and there is some game on that I can't figure out.

Cheers,

Sirhr

P.S. The Bonus Marchers did not get their 'march' stopped. They got 'cleared out' of their Hooverville/Shantytown when it was starting to be a public health mess, and a magnet for Communist agitators and criminals. The Bonus Marchers were tier-one Americans... mostly combat veterans... and all veterans from WW1 who wanted their enlistment bonus, payable in 1945 IIRC, paid a few years early because they needed the money due to the Depression. The "Bonus Army" was not the problem. They became, however, a target of Red Agitators, Communists and others who were stirring up violence. And those 25 percent or so who remained in DC after the march were not entirely representative of the marchers.... they were spoiling for a fight. Some believed they were ready to stage a revolution and the government claimed to have Intel to that effect, though, historically speaking, that intel was probably a bridge too far. At one point, there were even rumors that the Marines billeted in DC would have supported the insurrection, which is why they were not used to break up the camps. Though, again, I seriously doubt there was ANY truth to that.
Yes today was designed entirely to torpedo the Putin meeting.

Calling now for Trump not to be alone with Putin. Who do they want with him in the room ? Obama?

Democrat "meddling" in the duly elected Trump agenda.

Srikileaks or whatever thinks this is cool though.
 
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pmclaine

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Rosenstein's little press conference today... is utter proof that the Swamp is out to torpedo Trump and any chances he has on the world stage.

Indicting a bunch of Russians, publicly, while Trump is out of the country and on the eve of a meeting with Putin? Either there is some game going on that I can't fathom... or Rosenstein just did his best to torpedo the first face-to-face. I can't believe the WH would have approved that announcement today... And if it involves Russia... Sessions is recused. So either Rosenstein did it on his own... in which case it is a clear attempt to wreck the summit next week. Or he got approval from the WH for the announcement... and there is some game on that I can't figure out.

Cheers,

Sirhr

P.S. The Bonus Marchers did not get their 'march' stopped. They got 'cleared out' of their Hooverville/Shantytown when it was starting to be a public health mess, and a magnet for Communist agitators and criminals. The Bonus Marchers were tier-one Americans... mostly combat veterans... and all veterans from WW1 who wanted their enlistment bonus, payable in 1945 IIRC, paid a few years early because they needed the money due to the Depression. The "Bonus Army" was not the problem. They became, however, a target of Red Agitators, Communists and others who were stirring up violence. And those 25 percent or so who remained in DC after the march were not entirely representative of the marchers.... they were spoiling for a fight. Some believed they were ready to stage a revolution and the government claimed to have Intel to that effect, though, historically speaking, that intel was probably a bridge too far. At one point, there were even rumors that the Marines billeted in DC would have supported the insurrection, which is why they were not used to break up the camps. Though, again, I seriously doubt there was ANY truth to that.

Regards the bonus marchers.

Smedley D Butler LGen USMC was approached to lead a revolution by business leaders. He went to congress.

It was an anti socialist revolution in protest of FDRs New Deal.

Unlike public servants today, 2X MOH, Butler did the right thing.

SDB knew war and has the best take on what it means to go to war in the USA.

His pamphlet "War is a Racket" is as relevant today as it was back in the 30s.
 
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I’m going to go ahead and admit Trump was not my first choice for presidential candidate, but knowing what I know now and hindsight always being 20/20 he would have absolutely been my first choice I don’t think there’s anybody better that we could have picked to shake up this corrupt political bullshit We have going on right now. Go trump! Go trump!
 

pmclaine

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I’m going to go ahead and admit Trump was not my first choice for presidential candidate, but knowing what I know now and hindsight always being 20/20 he would have absolutely been my first choice I don’t think there’s anybody better that we could have picked to shake up this corrupt political bullshit We have going on right now. Go trump! Go trump!
Thank you.

I was initially a Ted Cruz guy but came to realize even he is a creature from the black lagoon.

Wear your new choice proud and convert others please.
 

Srikaleak

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Yes today was designed entirely to torpedo the Putin meeting.

Calling now for Trump not to be alone with Putin. Who do they want with him in the room ? Obama?

Democrat "meddling" in the duly elected Trump agenda.

Srikileaks or whatever thinks this is cool though.
It is interesting and I find the timing to be perplexing. It will be interesting to see how Trump plays this out.
 

pmclaine

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It is interesting and I find the timing to be perplexing. It will be interesting to see how Trump plays this out.
He should fire Sessions and Rosenstein and demand Flynns right to sentencing which would than trigger the collapse of the whole Mueller invest because apparently the judiciary realizes sentencing Flynn will be a civil rights violation which makes them individually liable.

All the sudden when its the judges residence and bank account that Flynn will be receiving in damages they are not so quick to sentence.

Its not like Flynn is some coptic Christian film maker on parole, you know.

This game is being dragged out until November solely to handcuff the duly elected government.

Sadly firing Sessions and Rosenstein plays into the dem plan.

Trump needs to declassify the records so the few fence sitters left will #walkaway, there will be no blue wave, and with a strengthened non establishment presence in the house/senate Sessions can be sent to the home with his gold watch and all the coup plotters can be rounded up put in cells to plead out avoiding the death penalty.

Your sock puppet avatar, how often do you wash it after stroking over Hillary?
 
#97
The part that has me wondering is, Trump is all about getting shed of dead weight rather fast. He has publicly call out Sessions more than once but, for some reason keeps him on the job? Either there is a hammer coming down an it's just a shell game so far or, it's a lot deeper than I could/have imagined. Either way when it all comes out I believe the pain will be long an deep for everyone.
 

Veer_G

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The part that has me wondering is, Trump is all about getting shed of dead weight rather fast. He has publicly call out Sessions more than once but, for some reason keeps him on the job? Either there is a hammer coming down an it's just a shell game so far or, it's a lot deeper than I could/have imagined. Either way when it all comes out I believe the pain will be long an deep for everyone.
All questions have but one eventual answer: BMA!
 

pmclaine

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The part that has me wondering is, Trump is all about getting shed of dead weight rather fast. He has publicly call out Sessions more than once but, for some reason keeps him on the job? Either there is a hammer coming down an it's just a shell game so far or, it's a lot deeper than I could/have imagined. Either way when it all comes out I believe the pain will be long an deep for everyone.
He cant get rid of him now.

No one to replace him will make it through the confirmation process because the dems know that person will actually enforce the law..