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I recently got a Savage Axis 6.5 Creedmoor. It is the first rifle I got that I personally own. Are there any tips for upgrading it? I want to try to stay somewhat inexpensive on this project since it is my first one.
 

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Hi,

I would not really be concerned about "upgrading" yet because per your post..you do not really have enough experience on the trigger to determine what and how you want to upgrade it.
Shoot the barrel off it as it sits and you will learn what you do/do not like about every part of it so you know what you do/do not want in an upgraded part.

Sincerely,
Theis
 

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Just shoot. Get a good scope that you can put on your next, better rifle. Maybe get a good shooting bag or two that help you make a good shooting position.

Spend money on good ammo that actually lets you see if you made the shot right, not junk that has you wondering if you know what you are doing at all.
 

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dont worry about upgrading it right away. shoot it as much as you can afford with good match ammo such as hornady match. if you dont yet have a scope for it then go to the for sale section here and spend as much as you can afford on the best glass you can afford. get a quality base and rings for it also, dont cheap out on rings. Seekins are good for the money. If you dont yet have a bipod for it then go to the accessories for sale section and get a used bipod or order a (from cheapest to most expensive) harris, atlas, thunderbeast, elite iron. then grab a rear bag from the for sale section or order one from tab gear, or fill a sock with sand and tie it off.

if you really want to upgrade it then drop it into a KRG bravo.
 
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Shoot first. Buy a good scope which can be transferred to another rifle. Try OTHER PEOPLES rifles to check out things that might interest you, it's a lot cheaper than buying untested from internet recommendations and finding it doesn't suit you.
 

ejennings

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Hi,

I would not really be concerned about "upgrading" yet because per your post..you do not really have enough experience on the trigger to determine what and how you want to upgrade it.
Shoot the barrel off it as it sits and you will learn what you do/do not like about every part of it so you know what you do/do not want in an upgraded part.

Sincerely,
Theis
I’ve shot probably 30 or 40 rounds through it and I know the trigger is heavier than I’d like it to be and I think the scope is messed up too because I couldn’t get it zeroed, then I got my dad to try it and he couldn’t get it zeroed either. Everything on it is factory right now, including the scope
 

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Best advice I can give (and to back up what some others have said):

Quality Optic:
Nightforce or Leupold

Quality Rings:
Badger

Ammo:
See what match factory your system likes the most then buy a metric fuck ton of it.

Harris (HBRMS) Bipod (6-9” model)

Rear bag/Sand Sock (dont over think these, either make one with poly fill beads or grab something like a solo sack).

Properly mount your scope (there are thousands of resources out there about this) and make sure it tracks.

Invest in a quality/reputable training course. This is a good way to not only solidify your fundamentals but also see and try other gear.
 
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I’ve shot probably 30 or 40 rounds through it and I know the trigger is heavier than I’d like it to be and I think the scope is messed up too because I couldn’t get it zeroed, then I got my dad to try it and he couldn’t get it zeroed either. Everything on it is factory right now, including the scope
What scope? How can you not get it zeroed? Is it randomly shifting leading you to chasing it or do you simply run out of adjustment? If the later, have you released the zero stop to make sure you arent "bottoming out" prematurely?
Take it all apart and put it back together ensuring everything is straight and flush.
 

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What scope? How can you not get it zeroed? Is it randomly shifting leading you to chasing it or do you simply run out of adjustment? If the later, have you released the zero stop to make sure you arent "bottoming out" prematurely?
Take it all apart and put it back together ensuring everything is straight and flush.
Sorry for how vague this has been. It’s a Weaver 3-9x40 scope. The scope just doesn’t seem to adjust consistently. We’ll put 3 or 4 rounds though for each time we adjust. It started by shooting about 2 foot to the right at 100 yards when first started sighting it in. I couldn’t get it to act right so I let my dad try since he has more experience than I do at shooting. He tried for a while and he said each time he’d adjust the scope it didn’t seem to move any. He put a few rounds through and then it started hitting about a foot high even though he had just been adjusting left and right.
 

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Sounds about like I expect a cheap scope thats included with a rifle to act.
Get something better before you waste time pulling any more hair out.
Call camerlandny and see what they can do on an athlon talos btr with a snipers hide discount. Thats my sub $300 scope recommendation.
Another would be the swfa ss 10 or 12x, its even cheaper used. Its a fixed power scope but its got dependable tracking so that you arent chasing what the scope is actually doing like you are now.

Dont dump money into upgrading a savage axis. Just shoot until you dont like it anymore.
 
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I’ve shot probably 30 or 40 rounds through it and I know the trigger is heavier than I’d like it to be and I think the scope is messed up too because I couldn’t get it zeroed, then I got my dad to try it and he couldn’t get it zeroed either. Everything on it is factory right now, including the scope
First, scopes that come with package deals are typically the cheapest, lowest quality that you can find. Having said that..............

Without knowing the actual shooting abilities of the two of you, the fact that neither of you could get the rifle zeroed is not necessarily an indication that the scope is broken/crap.

Most noobs/hunters/casual shooters who come here and think they know even the basics, don't. My observations of, and conversations with, various people at shooting ranges validates my point.

Just being brutally honest.
 

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Sounds about like I expect a cheap scope thats included with a rifle to act.
Get something better before you waste time pulling any more hair out.
Call camerlandny and see what they can do on an athlon talos btr with a snipers hide discount. Thats my sub $300 scope recommendation.
Another would be the swfa ss 10 or 12x, its even cheaper used. Its a fixed power scope but its got dependable tracking so that you arent chasing what the scope is actually doing like you are now.

Dont dump money into upgrading a savage axis. Just shoot until you dont like it anymore.
Thank you
 

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You gotta upgrade that scope before you waste any more ammunition.

What budget do you have available? How will you use the scope? What ranges? There are several "sticky" links in the Snipers Hide Rifle Scopes forum; start with this one.

When you ask for recommendations, you're going to get a huge pile of "information" to consider - and the problem is you don't have a background to allow you to filter Good Info from bullstuffing. Most of what you get here is Good Info, but there is plenty of garbage too.

I use Vortex scopes because they work and because I bought a used one locally for my son which had a severe flaw not obvious in the store. Vortex sent me a brand new one the next day - they told me straight out that their forever warranty is just that, and it doesn't matter if it was bought used.

I bought three Vortex scopes totaling almost $2000 before I learned what others here say to beginners: read, Read, READ the information here. A lot of what you'll see is "buy once, cry once." There's truth in it, but your journey will offer multiple paths with different needs. For example, I started rifle with a used Designated Marksman AR-15 variant. I put a Vortex Strike Eagle on it, which is totally appropriate for close-in (under 200 yards, 400 yards at a stretch) carbine pursuits. I wanted more range - the rifle was capable of it with match ammo - so I upgraded to a first-gen Vortex of some flavor, I think it was 2.5-10 power. Still not enough, and it was second focal plane (I'm not getting into that here - you need to learn what this means, and it's very very likely you'll need to go with first focal plane). By that point I learned that I wanted more than an AR platform in .223 could deliver. So I sold the whole rig and bought a Tikka T3X TAC A1 in 6.5CM and put a gen-1 Vortex Razor 5-20x50 in Vortex PMR / Seekins (Seekins makes the Vortex rings) rings on it. This rig served me well for a year and a half. I had an opportunity to buy a custom rifle from a friend at an excellent price, so I sold the Tikka for only a couple hundred dollars less than I paid for it (taking barrel life into consideration). I got an excellent deal on a Gen-2 Vortex Razor 4.5-27x56 scope about the same time. The old Razor was put on my .223 Tikka Varmint in an MDT chassis. I have no need to upgrade to any of the more expensive scopes for my centerfire rifles.

I have a Vortex Viper PST 5-25x50 on my Vudoo .22. That scope is also popular for centerfire rifles.

Now, you will likely read some BS here that Vortex scopes break. Uh, sure. Some will break. Toyota Camrys are one of the most boringly reliable cars you can buy, but some of them break. When you sell a cubic crap ton of anything man-made, there will be the occasional problem.

I recommend Vortex because those scopes worked and continue to work for me.

I have also used a couple of Athlon scopes (Argos BTR and Midas TAC) on a couple of friend's/family's .22s. If I hadn't already acquired all the scopes I need, I would definitely consider Athlon at the lower price points. You owe it to yourself to check out CameralandNY's web site - they are a Snipers Hide sponsor ad @gr8fuldoug pays attention to goings-on here - and CALL Doug on the phone to discuss your needs and budget.

Good luck.

EDIT: It's been mentioned, but to reiterate: Do not put a decent scope in cheap rings. That's like buying a Corvette and putting cheap tires on it and expecting Corvette performance out of it. Also, good equipment is easy to resell if you decide not to pursue this sport. I sold my Tikka TAC A1 in one day with multiple offers made on it.
 
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Spend $15 and sign up for the Snipers Hide training section. Sort by date created, and go through the videos.

Re: scope, yes it is worth upgrading the scope, but I mean it should be able to zero. Cheap scopes usually mean poor quality optics, not accurate tracking, not great max elevation/windage adjustment, but I mean if it's rated for centerfire and you properly torqued the rings down correctly when mounting it, it should hold up. It's not like you're shooting 300winmag or 338 lapua. The 6.5cm shouldn't be that bad.

Usually when scopes are moving all over the place it means the rings weren't torqued down correctly.

Either way, I'd pay the $15 and start the training. Then shoot some rounds. Just shooting 300 rounds down range without any guidance on proper form and technique is also a waste of money too. I love a 1lb trigger, but I can shoot my 4lb trigger just fine too.
 
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You can do a trigger mod to the axis if it's not the accutrigger model.
If that barrel is a thin sporter long strings of shots will change point
Of impact when heated up.

Get an swfa 10 or 12x and get a couple of different kinds a good ammo
And find out what shoots best. And then shoot, if you enjoy shooting
You will upgrade before long anyway.

I would suggest some type of front rest over a bipod for new shooters
And get a rear bag or make a beanbag or wadd up a towel.
 

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I recently got a Savage Axis 6.5 Creedmoor. It is the first rifle I got that I personally own. Are there any tips for upgrading it? I want to try to stay somewhat inexpensive on this project since it is my first one.
Don't turn this one into a project as far as dumping money into it, cut your losses now! Live and learn. It won't be worth much less after you've put a couple hundred rounds downrange than it's worth now.

Look no farther than Reub's post, that's money well spent, and without a doubt an excellent value, as well as a great foundation for upgrades later on.

If you got the Midas TAC it would be years until you needed an upgrade, if ever. But that Talos BTR 4-14x44 that Spife mentioned is a very versatile inexpensive FFP scope with a great reticle in it that many much more expensive scopes fall short in regards to.
 
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