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Whats everyone using for rings/mounts? I had ARC M10’s on my AT. Just got a Cadex CDX-30 with a flat top and wondered if there is another good mount outside of Spuhr.

Using a 3.6-18x44 version
 
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Thank you for the detailed instruction. I will try to loosen up the set screws and see if I can get them aligned correctly. That may well fix that problem.

However, I am unable to get to the 3d revolution. I hit a stop after the second full revolution (plus another half turn) and the "button" is still completely flush with the turret. I cannot imagine this being normal. But I'll give the Leupold a call and see if it is user error.
As someone else said above, the scope has likely topped out its elevation adjustment due to being in the center of adjustment from the factory setting.
You need to dial back to the zero stop, loosen the turrets, spin them around a rotation or two and tighten them again. If you have the scope sighted in on a canted rail you'll likely have all the elevation available.
 
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Whats everyone using for rings/mounts? I had ARC M10’s on my AT. Just got a Cadex CDX-30 with a flat top and wondered if there is another good mount outside of Spuhr.

Using a 3.6-18x44 version
Aadmount, GDI prom l, & badger all make really good 35mm but spuhr is my favorite
 
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Received my Mark 5 two weeks ago and there is no "mush" in the clicks. Solid as can be. Bore sighted it in my kitchen looking out the back window and then set zero by removing the turrets. I am very pleased with it.
 
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As someone else said above, the scope has likely topped out its elevation adjustment due to being in the center of adjustment from the factory setting.
You need to dial back to the zero stop, loosen the turrets, spin them around a rotation or two and tighten them again. If you have the scope sighted in on a canted rail you'll likely have all the elevation available.
Spent about 45 mins on the phone with Leupold CS. They acknowledged that there was some weirdness going on with the scope. However, after a bunch of trouble shooting and running BOTH dials to their stops multiple times, it appears we got the full elevation range worked out.

CS was a pleasure to deal with, patient, and even issued a shipping label so I can send it in to get checked. I cannot ask for more than that.

That all being said, I think I'm going to try to zero the scope now that I have full elevation adjustment. If I can, and it tracks, I don't see a reason to send it in.
 
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^^^ That is great to hear about CS! In this day and age we should expect for there to be some units that slip through the cracks, for me it's more important how well you are treated and how quickly issues are resolved. I've only had issues with Vortex and Schmidt and both of them treated me like I was their best customer, sounds like Leupold has made some great headway into their customer service as this was an area that I believe they worked on to get better and it sounds like it has paid off.
 
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^^^ That is great to hear about CS! In this day and age we should expect for there to be some units that slip through the cracks, for me it's more important how well you are treated and how quickly issues are resolved. I've only had issues with Vortex and Schmidt and both of them treated me like I was their best customer, sounds like Leupold has made some great headway into their customer service as this was an area that I believe they worked on to get better and it sounds like it has paid off.
Agreed. I accept that things happen in mass production. How a company responds is what makes me a faithful customer. Leupold has restored my confidence in them.

The CS guy also mentioned that they are simply not getting calls or send backs with the MK5 3.6. It has been a very good performer for them and he was genuinely puzzled with me having problems with mine. But either way, he promised they'd either fix it or replace it and not to worry. I hate to be repetitive, but what more can I reasonably ask for?
 
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Thank you for the detailed instruction. I will try to loosen up the set screws and see if I can get them aligned correctly. That may well fix that problem.

However, I am unable to get to the 3d revolution. I hit a stop after the second full revolution (plus another half turn) and the "button" is still completely flush with the turret. I cannot imagine this being normal. But I'll give the Leupold a call and see if it is user error.
If its locked in to zero and not lining up then loosening the set screws and rotating the cap will not help. The zero locks in and is set by the cap, it can't be adjusted. Mine came from Leupold that way. Had to send it in. My clicks were not mushy though. Leopold took good care of me. Had my scope back in less than a week. This is what my turret looked like when locked in to zero before I sent it in.

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If its locked in to zero and not lining up then loosening the set screws and rotating the cap will not help. The zero locks in and is set by the cap, it can't be adjusted. Mine came from Leupold that way. Had to send it in. My clicks were not mushy though. Leopold took good care of me. Had my scope back in less than a week. This is what my turret looked like when locked in to zero before I sent it in.

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Yeah, this sounds like the printing or machining was off for that unit, Sorry to hear that, but good to hear they fixed you up.
 

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If its locked in to zero and not lining up then loosening the set screws and rotating the cap will not help. The zero locks in and is set by the cap, it can't be adjusted. Mine came from Leupold that way. Had to send it in. My clicks were not mushy though. Leopold took good care of me. Had my scope back in less than a week. This is what my turret looked like when locked in to zero before I sent it in.
Not the issue with mine. But sincerely appreciate you trying to help. I was probably less than clear in my description.
 

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My Leupold Mark 5 HD (5-25) should be here Monday. I went with Vortex Match Set 35mm rings to mount it up. I use a Nightforce 2OMOA base. I’ll let y’all know how it mounts up, but the rings seem to be good quality.
 

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My Leupold Mark 5 HD (5-25) should be here Monday. I went with Vortex Match Set 35mm rings to mount it up. I use a Nightforce 2OMOA base. I’ll let y’all know how it mounts up, but the rings seem to be good quality.
Seekins makes those for vortex. I used them on a pst2 & Nikon fx1000 for my niece & nephew. They are a very good for the money
 
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Got my mark 5 mounted up on my DT today with a 20moa Spuhr mount. The issue I’m having is finding a place for the anti cant bubble. Because of the tube design of the scope, and with the Spuhr, the only place I can mount it is close to the eye piece. This creates two problems, #1 the throw hammer at full power blocks the bubble, and #2 the bubble being that close to me makes it really hard to focus on it with my non-dominant eye when I’m in position. Anyone have any thoughts or advice? I was considering a US optics rail mounted bubble. C75D8653-C273-4B4F-92D5-85D9283522F8.jpegFA19962E-5F0F-4A5D-B11E-431770C14FA7.jpeg
 

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Got my mark 5 mounted up on my DT today with a 20moa Spuhr mount. The issue I’m having is finding a place for the anti cant bubble. Because of the tube design of the scope, and with the Spuhr, the only place I can mount it is close to the eye piece. This creates two problems, #1 the throw hammer at full power blocks the bubble, and #2 the bubble being that close to me makes it really hard to focus on it with my non-dominant eye when I’m in position. Anyone have any thoughts or advice? I was considering a US optics rail mounted bubble. View attachment 7021599View attachment 7021600
Throw away the Vortex bubble and get this https://mkmachining.com/product/35mm-ultra-low-profile-billet-scope-level/
 

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Got my mark 5 mounted up on my DT today with a 20moa Spuhr mount. The issue I’m having is finding a place for the anti cant bubble. Because of the tube design of the scope, and with the Spuhr, the only place I can mount it is close to the eye piece. This creates two problems, #1 the throw hammer at full power blocks the bubble, and #2 the bubble being that close to me makes it really hard to focus on it with my non-dominant eye when I’m in position. Anyone have any thoughts or advice? I was considering a US optics rail mounted bubble. View attachment 7021599View attachment 7021600
Have you tried the opposite side with the vortex? Another way to go is us optics swivel bubble.1549773210584.jpeg
 

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Ordered! Thanks
Just make sure to test the accuracy by drawing a perfect level line& plum. A lot of cheaper bubbles can be off. That’s why I like us optics for low left rail mount which I like or scope mounted accuracy 1st, they are dead on accurate for the ones our customers have tested
 
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WELP...received my Mark 5 HD and it is already heading back to Leupold. I opened up the box saw my beautiful new scope and was delighted. Upon looking at the elevation turret, I was not delighted. The indicator mark was in between values as others have had issue with. Even with realigning the turret (after loosening screws) it still would end up between values. Very annoying to not have the hash marks line up. So I decided to check out the illumination next and that was pretty bad. The reticle would illuminate but also bleed a good bit with small specks of red on where the number indicators were (they are not supposed to be illuminated) and the bottom most hash Mark was only partially illuminated. Pretty disappointed. I chose the illuminated PR1-MOA reticle.

Now for the positive, customer service was super nice!!! They said, we got this, emailed me an RMA when on the phone with them and it’s already boxed up for UPS. They said they will make it right and I believe them.

Also the glass was great and I was really pleased with the dimensions and weight of the scope. When I get mine with good turrets and good illumination with a clear reticle, I think this scope will be my favorite for a long time.

I’ll keep y’all posted on when I get any update from them.
 

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Looked through a few at Mile High today. Could have sworn the TMR had a floating center dot vs an open center. Everything I see online shows open center for the TMR reticle. Am I off track?
 

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WELP...received my Mark 5 HD and it is already heading back to Leupold. I opened up the box saw my beautiful new scope and was delighted. Upon looking at the elevation turret, I was not delighted. The indicator mark was in between values as others have had issue with. Even with realigning the turret (after loosening screws) it still would end up between values. Very annoying to not have the hash marks line up. So I decided to check out the illumination next and that was pretty bad. The reticle would illuminate but also bleed a good bit with small specks of red on where the number indicators were (they are not supposed to be illuminated) and the bottom most hash Mark was only partially illuminated. Pretty disappointed. I chose the illuminated PR1-MOA reticle.

Now for the positive, customer service was super nice!!! They said, we got this, emailed me an RMA when on the phone with them and it’s already boxed up for UPS. They said they will make it right and I believe them.

Also the glass was great and I was really pleased with the dimensions and weight of the scope. When I get mine with good turrets and good illumination with a clear reticle, I think this scope will be my favorite for a long time.

I’ll keep y’all posted on when I get any update from them.
That is a bummer for sure, definitely poor QC. However Leupold's customer service has always been GTG, which is and always has been a contributing factor for me when I purchase products. I am well pleased with my 2 MK5's.
 
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I’ve had my Mk5 for around a year and still enjoy it. My dials line up almost perfect..almost, so not a huge bother to me. I may send it back at some point but maybe not.

I did recently receive a new USO B-17 and glass is on par but the Mk5 may be actually a little better but the main tube and main objective is also larger on the Mk5 so that could account for the slight nod going to the Mk5
 
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Looked through a few at Mile High today. Could have sworn the TMR had a floating center dot vs an open center. Everything I see online shows open center for the TMR reticle. Am I off track?
The illuminated TMR’s have the floating dot, the non-illuminated are open center.
 
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I’ve had my Mk5 for around a year and still enjoy it. My dials line up almost perfect..almost, so not a huge bother to me. I may send it back at some point but maybe not.

I did recently receive a new USO B-17 and glass is on par, actually a little better but the main tube and main objective is also larger on the Mk5 so that could account for the slight nod going to the Mk5
Yeah larger objectives always help with brightness & resolution. That was 1 reason why I chose the mk5 56mm over the dmr pro. At high mag 56mm wins over smaller objectives if they are similar quality
 

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Yeah larger objectives always help with brightness & resolution. That was 1 reason why I chose the mk5 56mm over the dmr pro. At high mag 56mm wins over smaller objectives if they are similar quality
Thought you can't get past the laws of physics, I would say the Mark 5HD compares very favorably to the Bushnell ET DMR II when it comes to low light performance, even though the Leupold is 44mm vs. 50mm on the Bushy you have to really look hard to see some of those differences in low light situations, we can debate whether the 18x or 21x is going to help the most, but I can say the Leupold trumps the Bushnell at low magnification FOV, 28.4' for the Leupold and only 25.3' for the Bushnell, even though both are 3.5x (well okay, the Leupold is actually 3.6x) the fact you can see 3' more in the FOV with the Mark 5 is a big advantage in my book. For a black rifle, I would choose the Leupold over the Bushnell, but I also think the DMR II is a great step up over the original DMR, not sure the DMR II Pro is worth it given it's other limitations (heavy and not so great FOV) even though it has better glass.
 

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Thought you can't get past the laws of physics, I would say the Mark 5HD compares very favorably to the Bushnell ET DMR II when it comes to low light performance, even though the Leupold is 44mm vs. 50mm on the Bushy you have to really look hard to see some of those differences in low light situations, we can debate whether the 18x or 21x is going to help the most, but I can say the Leupold trumps the Bushnell at low magnification FOV, 28.4' for the Leupold and only 25.3' for the Bushnell, even though both are 3.5x (well okay, the Leupold is actually 3.6x) the fact you can see 3' more in the FOV with the Mark 5 is a big advantage in my book. For a black rifle, I would choose the Leupold over the Bushnell, but I also think the DMR II is a great step up over the original DMR, not sure the DMR II Pro is worth it given it's other limitations (heavy and not so great FOV) even though it has better glass.
I agree with high quality optics they will transmit a lot light so they will be close in brightness. I have had some time behind the xrs2 & it is very nice & with bushnell’s 20% off rebate you could get a dmr2 pro under $1300 & xrs2 illuminated under $1500, I’m definitely considering getting one for another rifle
 

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UPDATE: Still waiting on Leupold to fix or replace my scope. When I called initially the tech had me send it in immediately and he said it would be done by this past Monday (the 18th). He said he would call me on Monday with whatever the resolution was and the tracking data.

I called today because they had not called me (they’ve had it in hand for 6 days). I was told nothing has been done with it as of yet but it’s “downstairs to be handled”. I’m glad I called because all they had on file was that the illumination was messed up, but hadn’t annotated that my turret markings were off as well (no attention to detail on the initial call I guess). I was told that they did have it marked as a “rush order” so it was priority. I have my doubts and am annoyed because I told the tech about my upcoming year long deployment and he said send it in and I’ll have it done by Monday (I was hesitant because I’m only here till the end of February). A week later and it hasn’t been touched. Another damn week goes by and I’ll be f*cking waiting a year to make sure they actually fixed it.

Leupold is getting a negative rating from me so far. I’m hoping they turn it around in the end but come on. Send me a broke ass scope and then give me the run around. Not too happy. Hoping to report better news soon.
 

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Ok, well interestingly enough I just got a call from the original tech at the custom shop that told me to send the scope in and sent me the shipping label. He said they "cleaned up the reticle and the illumination is now beautiful and the reticle is perfect". He said that the turret was also fixed. I asked him if he personally looked at it and he assured me that both he and his supervisor personally inspected the scope when it came back from the repair shop techs and he is confident that the issues are resolved. He seemed super confident so let's hope it is resolved. If not, looks like I'll be waiting a year to send it back anyhow lol. He said it should get sent back to me today and I should get a shipping label. Wish me luck! I'll keep ya'll posted when the scope arrives.

Leupold is now at a neutral rating from me. If it's fixed as it should be, then they will be considered positive in my book.
 
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Ok, well interestingly enough I just got a call from the original tech at the custom shop that told me to send the scope in and sent me the shipping label. He said they "cleaned up the reticle and the illumination is now beautiful and the reticle is perfect". He said that the turret was also fixed. I asked him if he personally looked at it and he assured me that both he and his supervisor personally inspected the scope when it came back from the repair shop techs and he is confident that the issues are resolved. He seemed super confident so let's hope it is resolved. If not, looks like I'll be waiting a year to send it back anyhow lol. He said it should get sent back to me today and I should get a shipping label. Wish me luck! I'll keep ya'll posted when the scope arrives.

Leupold is now at a neutral rating from me. If it's fixed as it should be, then they will be considered positive in my book.
Thanks for the update, I would hope that if they knew you were being deployed they would push this to the front of the line and glad to hear it sounds like they did. Hopefully all is well with the scope and it is rock solid for you, you going to be able to use it while deployed? Hope so and stay safe wherever you're off to!
 
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Thanks for the update, I would hope that if they knew you were being deployed they would push this to the front of the line and glad to hear it sounds like they did. Hopefully all is well with the scope and it is rock solid for you, you going to be able to use it while deployed? Hope so and stay safe wherever you're off to!
Thank you for the well wishes. I will not be using this on deployment. I’m an abrams gunner (tanker) so I’ll be using a bit more advanced optics hahaha.
 

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Every high mag scope I’ve used I usually turn the power down to 18-21x & the same goes for my spotting scopes. The mk4 at 25x has 4ft fov at 100 yards which is small compared to other high end scopes & a 35x in this scope will be even worse. Turning your mag down to normal powers that reticle will probably become very small
 

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Anyone using the 5-25 with Seekins/vortex rings? Thinking I need highs to run on my MPA chassis but don't have the scope yet to measure.

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Anyone using the 5-25 with Seekins/vortex rings? Thinking I need highs to run on my MPA chassis but don't have the scope yet to measure.

shane
I use 1.5 inch with no cheek rise & it’s just right. You could probably get down to 1.25 inch if you have to but I think 1.5 inch would be best
 

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anyone have a full side pic of the Mk 5HD 5-25x56 mounted on an AR10 or such? if so, please post.
Not a 5-25 as you requested, but here's the 3.6-18x to give you a rough idea. It's sitting in a Spuhr SP-5602 mount (willing to do a straight trade for a Spuhr SP-5601 since this optic will end up on a different rifle if anyone is interested).


 
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Update: The scope came to me this morning, they sent it overnight air which was nice. What was not nice was that nothing, not a damn thing, had been done to the scope. I got it out of the box, looked at the turret...still indexed wrong. Turned on the illumination, did a prayer and for F*CKS SAKE...still messed up reticle. Checked the form in the box and the service activity on my form said "visual inspection 100%, no defects found, mechanical inspection".

So all that jazz from the tech (who will remain nameless) about cleaning the reticle and replacing the turret was a complete lie. If him and his supervisor looked at this then they are full of garbage. I live a couple miles from Euro Optic so I called them and asked what I should do, even though I didn't purchase from them. I brought down my scope, we compared and saw that mine is messed up. I called Leupold from there and said, hey it is messed up, these guys can confirm it, they are a huge distributor of yours, I want a refund. And they sent me a label to return my scope and get a refund. They were very apologetic and honestly I am not too butt hurt about it since I am getting my money back. Bad products get through the line everywhere and I'm cool with that, but lying to me sucked. I am going to put that on the tech and not the company.

I had done all this on my lunch break here so now I am back to work and my old scope is on it's way to Leupold where a 100% refund will be given back in 1-2 weeks. I told Mike and the guys at Euro Optic that I will be returning after work to purchase an optic from them. We shall see what I go with, and hell I might go with another Mark 5HD since I can inspect it ahead of time. Who knows. Good Lord. DRAMA
 

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Update: The scope came to me this morning, they sent it overnight air which was nice. What was not nice was that nothing, not a damn thing, had been done to the scope. I got it out of the box, looked at the turret...still indexed wrong. Turned on the illumination, did a prayer and for F*CKS SAKE...still messed up reticle. Checked the form in the box and the service activity on my form said "visual inspection 100%, no defects found, mechanical inspection".

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DAMN. No exactly confidence inspiring. My interaction with a Leupold tech over my Mk5 was encouraging and a return tag was issued. Tech said the same thing about making sure "this scope comes across my desk because I want to personally make sure it has a problem and the problem gets fixed."

I decided NOT to send it in if I could zero it as we resolved my biggest concern. Your experiences do not exactly fill me with confidence.

But there really is not a comparable product as the Mk5 3.6 with respect to size, weight, performance (when working properly!), and pricing.
 
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Not a 5-25 as you requested, but here's the 3.6-18x to give you a rough idea. It's sitting in a Spuhr SP-5602 mount (willing to do a straight trade for a Spuhr SP-5601 since this optic will end up on a different rifle if anyone is interested).


You know what this is... an excuse to showoff pics of a sweet looking rifle, we want none of that here ;) Seriously, nice rig... LMT?
 
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Update: The scope came to me this morning, they sent it overnight air which was nice. What was not nice was that nothing, not a damn thing, had been done to the scope. I got it out of the box, looked at the turret...still indexed wrong. Turned on the illumination, did a prayer and for F*CKS SAKE...still messed up reticle. Checked the form in the box and the service activity on my form said "visual inspection 100%, no defects found, mechanical inspection".

So all that jazz from the tech (who will remain nameless) about cleaning the reticle and replacing the turret was a complete lie. If him and his supervisor looked at this then they are full of garbage. I live a couple miles from Euro Optic so I called them and asked what I should do, even though I didn't purchase from them. I brought down my scope, we compared and saw that mine is messed up. I called Leupold from there and said, hey it is messed up, these guys can confirm it, they are a huge distributor of yours, I want a refund. And they sent me a label to return my scope and get a refund. They were very apologetic and honestly I am not too butt hurt about it since I am getting my money back. Bad products get through the line everywhere and I'm cool with that, but lying to me sucked. I am going to put that on the tech and not the company.

I had done all this on my lunch break here so now I am back to work and my old scope is on it's way to Leupold where a 100% refund will be given back in 1-2 weeks. I told Mike and the guys at Euro Optic that I will be returning after work to purchase an optic from them. We shall see what I go with, and hell I might go with another Mark 5HD since I can inspect it ahead of time. Who knows. Good Lord. DRAMA
Dang Genin, that sucks! But good news that Euro is taking care of you and sounds like Leupold is as well, but I think I'd be a bit more upset if I were in your shoes, you've got a good head on you and nice to know you are out there serving our country and representing well! Thank you for your service brother.
 
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