So, what about Leupold Mark 5 ?

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The knob is only marked down to 75 yards but spins lower than that. I didn’t go too in depth today with close parallax but at about 15 yards I got a crisp reticle and image on 5x-ish. The Optic wasn’t mounted up at this point so I couldn’t tell you if parallax was present or not. I’ve got it mounted up now and will check it out.
Thank you redneck, that makes me a bit nervous, one of the things I didn't like about the DMR/DMR II is it only focuses/parallax down to 75 yards, but it was a hard 75 yards, I used it at 50 and it was pretty blurry, I'm not so much worried at parallax in that short of range because the effects will be minimal, but would like to be able to focus. Interesting that they mark it at 75 but you say the dial goes lower than that, let me know if you find any more on if it can focus closer than 75.

ILya, I believe you have one of these as well, any chance you did some parallax/focus testing on the low end?
 

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Thank you redneck, that makes me a bit nervous, one of the things I didn't like about the DMR/DMR II is it only focuses/parallax down to 75 yards, but it was a hard 75 yards, I used it at 50 and it was pretty blurry, I'm not so much worried at parallax in that short of range because the effects will be minimal, but would like to be able to focus. Interesting that they mark it at 75 but you say the dial goes lower than that, let me know if you find any more on if it can focus closer than 75.

ILya, I believe you have one of these as well, any chance you did some parallax/focus testing on the low end?
Like I said, mine focused down to about 15 yards with a clear image and crisp reticle.
 

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Like I said, mine focused down to about 15 yards with a clear image and crisp reticle.
I just heard back from Leupold and this is what they told me regarding the Mark 5HD 3.6-18x44 parallax
The spec is 75 yards out to infinity. Regarding the ability to focus lower than 75 yards, usually the focus will go a couple yards below 75, but not significant.
Your results seem to contradict what Leupold is saying because 15 yards would be significant vs 75 yards, that being said, your findings are very encouraging.
 

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Thank you redneck, that makes me a bit nervous, one of the things I didn't like about the DMR/DMR II is it only focuses/parallax down to 75 yards, but it was a hard 75 yards, I used it at 50 and it was pretty blurry, I'm not so much worried at parallax in that short of range because the effects will be minimal, but would like to be able to focus. Interesting that they mark it at 75 but you say the dial goes lower than that, let me know if you find any more on if it can focus closer than 75.

ILya, I believe you have one of these as well, any chance you did some parallax/focus testing on the low end?
I have not spent much time with it, but if you want to use it at closer distances you have to lower the magnification to get more depth of field. At 10x, everything looks acceptably sharp at 50 yards, but I have not tried it closer than 100 yards at higher magnification.

If you are able to focus down to 15 yards with it, check if you are still in focus at infinity. It may be that your eyepiece is not set-up right or that the scope needs to be adjusted.

ILya
 

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Was behind a 624i today for 4 hours using it on a friends 223 trainer. Weather here sucked and i didn't have the Mark 5 with me. I wish i did so i could've compared the two. Did put it side by side yet again next to a Gen II razor, was hard to tell the difference between them excluding the Gen II at 27x. On 24x in the conditions today (fog/misty rain).

Should've brought my rifle back with me.
 
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Has anyone taken a photo of the CCH ret in-the-flesh?

Also, any comparisons with the Gen II 4.5-27 glass-wise? They're basically within $20 to acquire for me (H59), and I don't mind the weight of the Razor.
 
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So was at Mile High Shooting the other day and decided to see if they still had a Leupy 3.6-18x44 I could look at and we took it outside and to be honest its kind of hard when a scope is just sitting on a rear bag on a post while trying to fiddle with mag and diopter and parallax, but I was pretty impressed. Eye relief seemed huge and eyebox pretty forgiving even up to 18x and while the spec says 75 yards focus I was able to focus much closer than that as the parallax dial goes well below the 75y marking. Turrets seemed decent enough and glass looked pretty dang good in my brief encounter. So I am very close to pulling the trigger on one and playing with it a bit. I've never been a Horus fan but I'm seriously considering the Tremor 3 with this scope just to play around and see if I can't get used to it...
 

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I still want one for a gas gun. Curious to hear ILya's final thoughts, though all indications point to Leupold getting this one right thus far. Least going off our small sample size in this thread.
 

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So the excuse for $300 illumination is "cost" granted he could be 100% correct. Seems a bit disingenuous when every other brand is doing it at similar price. Still watching to see if they announce the new reticle.

They do talk about the CCH
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CCH reticle info:

I had not been able to find reticle info on the CCH offering, so I called Leupold Customer Service and found a tech who sent me the attached PDFs with actual measurements and a detailed view of the CCH reticle.

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Well I did it, I pulled the trigger on a Mark 5HD 3.6-18x44mm Tremor 3. This will be my first Leupold and I'm really hoping it will impress, this is also my first busy Horus reticle but hoping I'll get over the messyness and enjoy the usefulness... should be here within a couple weeks.
Looking forward to seeing your results Bill.
 
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Thanks to all who have posted reviews

I own 7 NF scopes and 1 S&B. There not been a scope from another manufacturer that has caught my attention like the Leupold Mark 5 3.6-18x44 has.

A very nice power range for a gas gun or hunting rifle and a TReMor3 reticle for $2100, I'm very tempted.
 
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The T3 is just a H59 with the .2 hashes on the undersides of horizontals removed and wind dots added. I love the wind dot system and find the rows of dots break the reticle up nicely.

I also don't find a H59 "cluttered". I think most people who say cluttered are looking at the pics of them with white backgrounds, the pics/drawings are nothing like actually using the reticle.

I have a problem which I'm not sure what it's called, other than possible retardation, where I can't look at things like chain link fences or anything like that, and I have no problem looking at a Horus reticle. They work and they work great.


And another groundhog just a little bit ago.

 
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I find it cluttered but my dislike of the H59 stems from more or less from lack of practice. I will say i hate it for hunting. It obscures a ton of the the bottom of the FOV. H59 is also a tad thick. I'm just saying though Leupold could use something like a G2/G3, EBR2C/EBR7B, or SKMR/3 at no upcharge.
 
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I will say i hate it for hunting. It obscures a ton of the the bottom of the FOV.
I've used Horus reticles for years for hunting and have never found this to be a problem, our military is slowly switching over to Horus stuff for people hunting too. It's an aiming apparatus, not a spotting scope or binoculars. It's just a grid so you can easily see through it, it's not like it's a solid blob that makes the lower half of the FOV useless. If it's an issue then ID with one of the upper quadrants and make the shot with the reticle, or better yet carry a spotter or binos so you're not aiming a weapon at something you're not intent on shooting.

A Horus is worth its weight in gold for night hunting.
 
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That’s a fair point. Again my dislike probably stems from lack of practice. I had no illumination of either of those models with the h59 hunting and that’s when i hated the grid in low light. Which now I’ve got a dedicated short rifle for hunting so was kind of mispuposed for my comp rifle anyway.

I see your point though.
 
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That’s a fair point. Again my dislike probably stems from lack of practice. I had no illumination of either of those models with the h59 hunting and that’s when i hated the grid in low light. Which now I’ve got a dedicated short rifle for hunting so was kind of mispuposed for my comp rifle anyway.

I see your point though.
Those last few minutes of dusk can certainly be a little hard to pick it up, no doubt. I've got a few S&B's with them and they're all illuminated so it's been a non issue the times I've used them for evening hunting. Most of my hunting is varmint or predator hunting which is done during the day or at night with a clip on so illumination isn't used and therefor isn't required equipment for my uses. Sometimes black reticles can be hard to use on black hot but that's as simple to clicking to white hot to make the shot, has nothing to do with being a Horus or not though.