Sneak Peek-Sightron S-Tac 4-20x50 FFP New for 2019

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Here is a sneak peek of the new Sightron S-Tac 4-20x50 FFP. Mil/Mil (.1 increments), 5 mils per revolution, zero stop, glass etched reticle, illuminated. The attached images are of a prototype and not of a production scope. There will be some minor tweaking before going into production. This model will be debuted at SHOT Show, booth #10,346.
 

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I'm a Sightron fan, but they can't seem to ever check all the boxes, like they're always missing one detail. Earlier models had no zero stop, no locking turrets, basic reticles, but really good glass for the money and excellent tracking. The SVSSED offered a better reticle, 10-mil locking turrets, but no zero stop, which wasn't a huge issue for me on a 10-mil turret, but I know some on here wanted the stop. Now it looks like they've finally added the zero stop, but 5-mil turets.

Assuming the price is in line with the other S-Tac scopes, I'll give them a look, but my personal preference would be a 10-mil turret.
 

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Canezach,
A zero stop for the SV is currently in the works. 5 mils of elevation pretty well covers most cartridges to about 700 yards and 10 mils (2 revolutions) covers most out to about 1050 yards. If a higher intensity cartridge is used the figures generally span from about 800-1200 yards and further once one gets into the ELR cartridges. Your mileage may vary slightly depending on bullet and velocity. The 4-20FFP will have 23.3 mils of total elevation and 11.7 mils of total windage. Street price for the S-Tac FFP is going to be around $699.
All the best,
EJ
 

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What type of reticle will this have - the mil-hash from the S-TAC 2.5-17.5x and SIII 6-24x FFP? Also, what's the minimum parallax?
 

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Yes, the main tube is 30mm. There might be two reticle offerings mil and moa. More to come regarding the reticle.
 

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Canezach,
A zero stop for the SV is currently in the works. 5 mils of elevation pretty well covers most cartridges to about 700 yards and 10 mils (2 revolutions) covers most out to about 1050 yards. If a higher intensity cartridge is used the figures generally span from about 800-1200 yards and further once one gets into the ELR cartridges. Your mileage may vary slightly depending on bullet and velocity. The 4-20FFP will have 23.3 mils of total elevation and 11.7 mils of total windage. Street price for the S-Tac FFP is going to be around $699.
All the best,
EJ
At that price, I would be less concerned with the 5-mil turret. And the exact reason you mentioned (10-mils covers 99.9% of shooting distances) is why I didn't care about the lack of zero stop on the SVSSED.
 

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It is really surprising that the simple, versatile, external, zero stop mechanism Sightron has come up with for this scope has never been envisioned before. This is especially so since it is conceptually pretty similar to so called plunger type systems such as those used my March. In practice, this system will also offer the benefit those plunger systems do over pin type systems with regards to allowing the user to set the stop a few tenths of a mill past the zero if so desired. I'm excited to see this new system bring zero stops to a more economical price point of scopes than was previously possible.
 
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It is really surprising that the simple, versatile, external, zero stop mechanism Sightron has come up with for this scope has never been envisioned before.
Agreed, this stop set up looks super simple and super easy and if it actually works that well in use then it looks like a super scope for 500 bucks (assuming street price off of the potential 699 msrp). Its like the washer stacking underneath the cap to limit the downward travel only without messing with the pesky cap removal.
 

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I have an S-Tac 2.5-17.5.
I love it, I have no problem with it being SFP and I love the simple but effective reticle.
My only issue has been the 56mm objective, I have been wishing for one in 50mm.
I also have an SV 4.5-24, wishing it had a ZS, but am thrilled with it as well.

I am definitely picking one or more of these S-Tacs up after they become available.
 

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Nice to hear. Sightron was a big splash when they first hit. Nice to see them making updates
 

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If you are going to SHOT Show stop by the Sightron booth at #10,346 and see the new S-Tac 4-20x50 FFP. Illuminated glass etched reticle, fully multi coated, zero stop, .1 mil adjustments, 30mm main tube. Focus distance 10 yards to infinity. $699 price.

The first batch is being shipped now to various distributors and online dealers such as Optics Planet, Brownell's, Midway, Graf & Sons and Focus Camera.

EJ
 

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Currently, there is only one reticle offering. The reticle is mil based with hold over hash marks for both windage and elevation. It is not a Christmas tree style reticle. Let me see if I can get an image to post. A MOA-2 style reticle is in the works.
 

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This is awesome to see Sightron bringing their scopes up to date. As others have mentioned, the quality they offer for the price range is unmatched. The SIII line of scopes are stellar.
 

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Currently, there is only one reticle offering. The reticle is mil based with hold over hash marks for both windage and elevation. It is not a Christmas tree style reticle. Let me see if I can get an image to post. A MOA-2 style reticle is in the works.
Personally, I'm not too interested in a Christmas tree style reticle (though there's obviously a good market for that) but a simple update to the Mil Hash reticle that has 2/10 increments out to 3 Mils in all directions would be nice, and maybe extend the drop range down to 10 mils. Since the 4-20 has potential for long-range hunting, making the stadia heavier past the mil increments would also be helpful for low light/low magnification situations. Nothing too fancy, just something a little more functional for field shooting rather than strictly target shooting.
 

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Thanks for posting that up. It's a big improvement over their Mil Hash, but I sure wish they would drop the .25 mil increments and go to .1 or .2 like everyone else. Us mil guys think in tenths of a mil, not quarter mils. Getting closer, but not quite there yet.

Still, looking forward to seeing this scope.
 
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I can’t open the attachment, can someone post it?
 

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(NOT THE ONE IN THE SV; something like G2/3, MR4, SKMR3, EBR-2C)

It's like the mfgs are just not listening... From $500 to $4k, I shop reticle first and foremost. I refuse to dial like a dirty peasant (obligatory /s).
 
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It is really surprising that the simple, versatile, external, zero stop mechanism Sightron has come up with for this scope has never been envisioned before. This is especially so since it is conceptually pretty similar to so called plunger type systems such as those used my March. In practice, this system will also offer the benefit those plunger systems do over pin type systems with regards to allowing the user to set the stop a few tenths of a mill past the zero if so desired. I'm excited to see this new system bring zero stops to a more economical price point of scopes than was previously possible.
It looks like an RCBS die lock ring, complete with setscrew that digs into threads. Am I correct or if not, how does it work?
 

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It looks like an RCBS die lock ring, complete with setscrew that digs into threads. Am I correct or if not, how does it work?
It's actually more of a sleeve than a collar. The bottom of the sleeve piece has the colar looking part with the set screws. The top section, which is actually inside of the marked adjustment cap, is where it is threaded. So, the threads are above the area where the set screws are. The set screws actually impinge against an un-threaded lower portion of the adjustment housing. I had the same thought about the setscrew on threads initially but this is not a problem as the set screws and threads are not in the same place.
 
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Can someone post a pic of the reticle at its lowest magnification (4x)?


Would like to see if the reticle is usable for hunting situation at low power.

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Koskin, Since it looks like you have a sample of one of these......What does the glass quality look like to you? I've been following this post but it looks to me like Sightron rolled the scope out with almost no marketing. its hard to find many reviews on them, they have showed up on a few websites for sale, but not much mention of them anywhere else.
 

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Koskin, Since it looks like you have a sample of one of these......What does the glass quality look like to you? I've been following this post but it looks to me like Sightron rolled the scope out with almost no marketing. its hard to find many reviews on them, they have showed up on a few websites for sale, but not much mention of them anywhere else.
Sightron seems to have an aversion to marketing.

Optical quality is very good for the money. It seems to track well and stays zeroed. The biggest flaw of this scope is the rather narrow field of view. Also, the reticle is a little weird. They have a decent reticle in the SVSS, but in this scope they goofed a little. It is OK, but they could do better.

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