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koshkin

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For those of you on social media, I will be posting Instagram updates from the show floor as I go along. I will also try to do a Facebook live session with my impressions at the end of each day (if I am sober enough for it) and the video will then go up on Youtube.

That worked reasonably well last year, so I will try to do more or less the same thing this year.

ILya
 

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I am sorta spoiled by spotters with reticles, so any new spotter I buy will have that.

I wish Kowa would consider adding a reticle to the 55mm spotter, but I am afraid chances are slim.

ILya
What do you think the best spotter on the market in the $2k range is right now?
 

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I will be at SHOT. Looking forward to it. I actually got an invite to industry day at the range ‘this year. That should be pretty cool.
 

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For those of you on social media, I will be posting Instagram updates from the show floor as I go along. I will also try to do a Facebook live session with my impressions at the end of each day (if I am sober enough for it) and the video will then go up on Youtube.

That worked reasonably well last year, so I will try to do more or less the same thing this year.

ILya
Might be worth getting an instagram account just for this 😉
 
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If you can find Meopta S2 under $2k that is probably your best bet.

If you are looking to have an available reticle eyepiece, Vortex Razor is worth a look. They have a fixed power eyepiece with a reticle available for it.

ILya
Yeah, I’ve heard good things about that one. I’m trying to decide how much I want a reticle, probably not really necessary at this point.
 

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Just talked to the product engineer at Meopta. They will have sunshades for the Optikas this year
 
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Nothing new in the Vortex gen 3 line other than the 1x10? I kind of figured the rest of the lineup would release at shot. Also anythig new on the Leupold lineup?
 

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Nothing new in the Vortex gen 3 line other than the 1x10? I kind of figured the rest of the lineup would release at shot. Also anythig new on the Leupold lineup?
Vortex typically doesn’t wait for shot to release anything. If it’s ready, the release it.

Also, the gen 3 1-10 is pretty awesome.
 

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Tract has a new Toric, a 4.5-30x56 with 34mm tube. I was very impressed with the 4-20 for the price, it did have a lot of CA but resolution was very impressive, FOV was a bit narrow though. If this new 4.5-30x56 has resolved some (or all) of these issues, this could be one to watch.
 

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Was hoping 2020 would be the year Leupold finally understood the demographic for their Mark 5 scopes and came out with a reticle to compete with others in this space... apparently not. Oh well, plenty of other options and I'd likely want illumination anyway which puts the Mark 5 way over the competition in regard to price.
 
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I agree that the Leupold line-up was very underwhelming. Ditto for Bushnell, who seems to be floundering in terms of what to do in their tactical LPVO and reflex sight line-up. Sig didn't have much, either, but IMHO, they're starting in a way better position. Haven't been to Vortex or Burris yet.
 

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Swung by Burris on my way to the press room (forgot they were co-located with Steiner).

Bad news: the RT-8 scopes are not coming out any time soon. Marketing confusion was cited as the reason. I asked how they thought they could fail to market a $800 DFP 1-8x scope successfully, and didn't really get a good answer. I am extremely disappointed.

Good news: the Fastfire 4 was on display, and it looks REALLY solid. Bigger window, and it has a reticle that will let you switch between 3 MOA, 11 MOA (!), and some sort of circle dot. It's due Q2. As someone who's used an 8 MOA FF3 quite successfully, I am looking forward to seeing it.
 
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UPSTATERAM

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I haven’t seen much released. Just a lot of hype for the razor iii
 

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Meopta did come out with an Optika 5 scope that has a 1” tube. Not really a special scope but it is exciting for me as a retail shop. 3-15x44 selling for $399 and a 4-20x50 selling for $499 and $549 for the lighted reticle. Gets a guy into a really decent scope for a great price point.
 
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Meopta did come out with an Optika 5 scope that has a 1” tube. Not really a special scope but it is exciting for me as a retail shop. 3-15x44 selling for $399 and a 4-20x50 selling for $499 and $549 for the lighted reticle. Gets a guy into a really decent scope for a great price point.
What were the weights like?
 

UPSTATERAM

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Meopta did come out with an Optika 5 scope that has a 1” tube. Not really a special scope but it is exciting for me as a retail shop. 3-15x44 selling for $399 and a 4-20x50 selling for $499 and $549 for the lighted reticle. Gets a guy into a really decent scope for a great price point.
The 4-20x50 was a 1” tube too?
 

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Also, holy shit on the AMP Arbor press. I was very impressed with it considering the projected price point only being a little higher than a hydro press.
 
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THEIS

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I walked the entire show a couple years ago, first time going and tried to take everything in, I'll never do that again.
Hi,

There were 2 additional floors/ballrooms this year, lol...
Next year will be even larger; since they are expanding to the under construction Caesar Forums which will be connected via a pedestrian sky-bridge from the Sands exhibition center.

Sincerely,
Theis
 

koshkin

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Hi,

There were 2 additional floors/ballrooms this year, lol...
Next year will be even larger; since they are expanding to the under construction Caesar Forums which will be connected via a pedestrian sky-bridge from the Sands exhibition center.

Sincerely,
Theis
My feet are beginning to hurt pre-emptively.

ILya
 

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My feet are beginning to hurt pre-emptively.

ILya
Can’t wait to hear your thoughts on the products at shot! Get a golfball and roll gently under your feet when you get settled. Hope this helps.
 

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No. It is almost ready.

Steiner had some crazy cool stuff that they showed us, but it is not for consumer use at this stage. Their CQT is really something though.

ILya
I saw your Instagram post on the Steiner CQT and it looked sweet! But $9k puts it out of reach for most. They also listed DBAL-LRF, how do the two differ?
 

koshkin

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I saw you're Instagram post on the Steiner CQT and it looked sweet! But $9k puts it out of reach for most. They also listed DBAL-LRF, how do the two differ?
CQT is a fusion of thermal and reflex sight. It is not an LRF.

It is very expensive, but it is the first truly viable design of this type in existence.

ILya
 

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Am I right in thinking there was little of anything interesting to the PRS stype scene this year?
Seem's like other than the Leica and the Kahles LVPO, there was nothing ground breaking announced and a lot of "it'll be ready soon" on cool stuff folk were hoping for.