SCAR 20S optic choice?

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Now that my rifle is ordered, what optic are you guys running on ur 20S? I have Elcan 1-4x on my 16/17, but undecided on this long range shooter. Any thoughts? Please post pics of your setup. :p
 

longshot2000

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I do not have a 20s, but aI think a 3-18 or 4-16 with a tree reticle and ring cap mini RDS would go very well on a rifle like this.
Yes. I think an ATACR 1-8x would also be a good choice. First, if you have never gotten behind the new NF 1-8x, you need to. I think everyone needs this scope. Goes nicely with the Scar. Point and shoot like and Aimpoint, and the ability to dial-in to 8x. You say that 8x is not enough? Yeah, I like 15x just fine, but our snipers shot with 8x, 9x and 10x on the Mk11 and Mk12 platforms. 8x is plenty to 600-800 yards, if you scope is as clear as the ATACR.

Want more, go for ATACR 4-16, or the S&B US 3-20x. Cannot afford NF or S&B? Come on, you just spent $4k on a rifle. :unsure:

(btw, I have two Scar 20's looking for a good home.)
 

mgrs

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Yes. I think an ATACR 1-8x would also be a good choice. First, if you have never gotten behind the new NF 1-8x, you need to. I think everyone needs this scope. Goes nicely with the Scar. Point and shoot like and Aimpoint, and the ability to dial-in to 8x. You say that 8x is not enough? Yeah, I like 15x just fine, but our snipers shot with 8x, 9x and 10x on the Mk11 and Mk12 platforms. 8x is plenty to 600-800 yards, if you scope is as clear as the ATACR.

Want more, go for ATACR 4-16, or the S&B US 3-20x. Cannot afford NF or S&B? Come on, you just spent $4k on a rifle. :unsure:

(btw, I have two Scar 20's looking for a good home.)
I had an NX8 on a Scar 17 for a while and plan to some day give the ATACR 1-8 a chance.... the reticle looks great for a 7.62 DMR and about perfect for that rifle.

I was thinking a MK20 might be able to take advantage of a little more magnification, more like this configuration:
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I have the nx8, so not the exact same thing as the ATACR, but my one big issue with it is, getting past 300 or so, that center dot is really big. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the NX8 and ATACR reticle the same outside the tree in the ATACR?

I love that scope, but I wish they would make that center dot smaller. The hashes around the dot are plenty to make the "red dot" effect on 1x.
 

deersniper

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I have the nx8, so not the exact same thing as the ATACR, but my one big issue with it is, getting past 300 or so, that center dot is really big. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the NX8 and ATACR reticle the same outside the tree in the ATACR?

I love that scope, but I wish they would make that center dot smaller. The hashes around the dot are plenty to make the "red dot" effect on 1x.
Aren't you going to be holding past 300 yards anyway
 

Rudy Gonsior

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I think the my top 3 picks would be (in no particular order)

1. Leupold Mk5 3.6-18x
2. Nightforce ATACR 4-16x
3. S&B Ulta Short 3-20x

I feel like all of the above fit that platform well I’m terms of power range and features and have appropriate pedigree. You could also add the Nightforce NXS 3-15x, it’s classic.

The 1-8x optics might also be viable if you’re look to shade more towards battle rifle or DMR function but you’d be giving up an bit on the far end.
 

mgrs

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Have a buddy of mine who's kid is in the Ranger Batt, and he showed me a pic of him in Afghanistan. Mk20 , with a Luepold MK5.
MK5? Interesting. I heard the Mark 6s are common but the Mark 5 might be a better optic.


OP- what did you choose, or are you flipping the rifle?
 

hypno02

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NF 4-16 or NF 3-15 F1.

That rifle deserves an optic as tough as it is itself. And also, an 11# rifle deserves more than an 8x optic. Anybody recommending a 8x optic (or 10x for that matter) is downright stupid.
 
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S&B Ultra Short 3-20x50 with the MSR2 reticle. Arguably the widest field of view at low mag and enough horsepower on the top end to have excellent target ID or for going long...

The MSR2 can be used at 3x like a duplex. It's just an ass kicker ....
 

VegasHKShooter

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That combo begs for a NF 4-16. I do agree though that the MK5 is really looking good. My buddy JUST got one. He’s a pretty hard core NF H59 shooter, so we will see. I’m going NF ATACR 4-16, but the MK5 was FOR SURE in the running.
 

VegasHKShooter

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NF 4-16 or NF 3-15 F1.

That rifle deserves an optic as tough as it is itself. And also, an 11# rifle deserves more than an 8x optic. Anybody recommending a 8x optic (or 10x for that matter) is downright stupid.
That’s a very silly thing to say unless you’ve been behind one. I am SUPER comfortable using my ATACR 1-8 out to 800 yds, and last Friday, was hitting at 1000 yds with my KAC ACC and my 1-8.

You can say “for me that doesn’t work...” but to imply that guys who are doing it, and making the hits, vs talking about it on the computer are “stupid “ is bad taste man. Cmon, The Hide is better than that.
 

hypno02

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That’s a very silly thing to say unless you’ve been behind one. I am SUPER comfortable using my ATACR 1-8 out to 800 yds, and last Friday, was hitting at 1000 yds with my KAC ACC and my 1-8.

You can say “for me that doesn’t work...” but to imply that guys who are doing it, and making the hits, vs talking about it on the computer are “stupid “ is bad taste man. Cmon, The Hide is better than that.
Sorry I should have said "Anybody recommending a 10x or 8x with today's current offerings in mind on a 20" .308 is stupid."

On a 16" rifle [I agree] a 1-8 makes perfect sense. The Mk20 is a precision rifle. It should have an optic built for precision shooting.
 
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You've already gotten a lot of input, and much of it similar, but let me throw my thoughts in based on my experiences. I have a NF ATACR 4-16x42 F1 on my Seekins SP10 in .308 and an NF ATACR 1-8x24 F1 on a 16" .223 AR15. Both are technically capable on the platform you're looking at, but if you're planning on using it as a precision gun, I'd lean toward the 4-16 or 3-18/3-20 range personally. The 1-8's are very capable yes, but unnecessary if you're not doing run and gun stuff with it, which most people aren't with a 20" .308. That mid range optic is a really nice middle ground and will give you a lot of good features. The 1-8 is an excellent optic as well, but it has no parallax adjustment and capped turrets. It's really not intended to be a precision optic as much as a DMR kind of thing based on holdovers.

Your purpose for the rifle drives the type of optic needed.