To recap, I got the Ruger 10/22 and added a Nikon 3-9 X40 scope. First firing got me five total, single shots with five fail to extract rounds. The gun shop cleaned it and fired 50 rounds and gave it back to me. Having never set up a scope before, I read a ton and then went to the range. I totally blew that exercise. Back to the books. I reset the scope at the house with a laser. At the range today, I took some shots, documented my actions with scope adjustments and the photo tells the rest. I am very happy with the rifle and I feel good about working through my problems to get to a whole set of targets that look almost just like this one. I used Mini Mags at 50 Yards.
Good deal. It's encouraging to hear that the problems abated with a cleaning. I'd highly recommend obtaining some high quality match grade ammo and seeing how well things tighten up.To recap, I got the Ruger 10/22 and added a Nikon 3-9 X40 scope. First firing got me five total, single shots with five fail to extract rounds. The gun shop cleaned it and fired 50 rounds and gave it back to me. Having never set up a scope before, I read a ton and then went to the range. I totally blew that exercise. Back to the books. I reset the scope at the house with a laser. At the range today, I took some shots, documented my actions with scope adjustments and the photo tells the rest. I am very happy with the rifle and I feel good about working through my problems to get to a whole set of targets that look almost just like this one. I used Mini Mags at 50 Yards.
I have only shot 255 rounds through it, and it was cleaned after the first five. So I can't answer your questions yet. I'll keep it in mind as I go forward.Nimrod - have you found that your groups are opening back up after cleaning the gun, and the fouling it again with shooting it? I ask because of the way you've labeled your groups. I have not found that my accuracy is decreasing, despite not cleaning my rifle since the I did so when it was brand new. I do find that the first group after changing ammunition may open up, but otherwise I'm finding that its pretty tolerant.
Tight. I like it. Why 300 yards? Just to see if you could?I remembered to take some pictures of groups today, after forgetting the last few times. Shooting at approximately sea level. 44 degrees. 91% relative humidity. Winds 5 gusting 10 and swirling over the range. Tested Center-X; Midas +, and Polar Biathlon (known good ammo for this rifle, but warmer than usual).
First two photos are 10 round groups shot at 50 yards with Polar Biathlon. Third photo is a bunch of crappy groups shooting Midas +. This rifle doesn't love it. The Center X groups from last time were actually better, and the Polar Biathlon groups at 100 are the best I've had yet. Photo four is my sighter target at 300 yards. The last photo is a three round group shooting like I meant it at 300 yards. The 300 yard shots were Polar Biathlon. I would have liked to have kept working at 300, but there were other's at the range and its a long walk for them to wait through while I hang targets.
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When I went to retrieve the targets and they were still up against the homasote backer board you could really see how steep the angle of the hole was. No evidence of tumbling - no keyholes, e.g. - but they were coming down as much as in at the point of impact.Wow, that’s really lobbing them in there....... I would have thought they would begin to tumble and do strange things by then.
Sshow bob. I think there may have been a few of those magic lots ran last year. I bought about 2k rounds of CCI SV that were three separate lots and they all shot amazing. I bought them all over about a 2 week period. I recently bought and tested 6 different lots of CCI SV that I just bought and none of them come even close. If I can ever find another lot that shoots like those last year I’m going to buy several cases.When I went to retrieve the targets and they were still up against the homasote backer board you could really see how steep the angle of the hole was. No evidence of tumbling - no keyholes, e.g. - but they were coming down as much as in at the point of impact.
I received 200 rounds of SK Long Range this week, and hope to try them out this weekend.
Bill - do you find that some lots of CCI SV are magic and some aren't? Last fall we ran through a lot that was about as tight as any of the expensive stuff we've tried since. Next lot didn't cut it for us.
KIDD Trigger job kit is very, very good. Makes a huge improvement over stock Ruger triggers.If you'd rather not drop the coin on a completely new trigger assembly, Kidd sells a "Trigger Job Kit" that replaces the trigger parts in a Ruger factory polymer trigger housing for $105. You can order it alone or as a combo with some of their other performance parts such as their trigger pull tuning spring kit, auto bolt release, and magazine plunger upgrade.
It's not as slick as a completely new assembly in an aluminum housing (something they also offer) but it is a great value.
Awesome! Thank you very much.Dusty, it was sort of difficult to measure without removing my scope and also the barrel is tapered a bit just below the end of the rail.
It looks like the bottom of the rail is even with the top of the barrel further out and the rail itself is about .375" thick.
SSBob,Thanks for the insight, Hetman. I got my rifle Monday, and had a chance to shoot it Tuesday night, but only on a 50' indoor range. Hopefully I will have the opportunity to shoot at up to 200 yards on Sunday.
I mounted the scope up using Buris adjustable rings. I used 20 moa in the front and 5 moa in the rear, set to decrease the elevation by 15 degrees. (In other words, both sets of collars set to move the scope up.) Scope is Athlon Helos 6 -24 x 50 (MOA - I know; I think better in MOA) Athlon claims 60 MOA of range. 50 yard zero would mean that I'm halfway below the mid-travel. 150 yards would be mechanism centered. I could get to 270 on the dial.
The rifle feels really good to me. I haven't shot a Kidd, so I cannot compare. The action feels fell machined to tight tolerances - much tighter than my other 10/22. It feels like a well made thing. The trigger is good but not as good, at least on mine. I have a BX on my 10/22TD and its the same animal. This one is better than that one, but then I shoot a friend's cooper and it feels like they stuck a stapler in there instead of a trigger group. I have 200 rounds through it, and its better than it was, but if it doesn't really wear in on Sunday I will put something else in there.
50 feet is no test, so I cannot really comment on what its accuracy is. One hole for as many shots as you want, of course, at that range. Will zero and do a dot drill on Sunday.
I'm doing the same thing.. picking it up in 2 weeks after the 10 day wait for assault rifles in Washington... I have an Athlon Ares BTR for it as well.SSBob,
I am looking at picking up one of these rifles next week and putting an Athlon Ares BTR 4.5-27x50 on it. How did you decide to use something other than standard rings on the 30 MOA base? I would plan on zeroing at 50yds and stretching it out to 300 as you have. However I am wondering if the 24 Mils (approx 83 MOA) of travel in the scope will let me get away without creating an offset. I am new to all of this and trying to wrap my head around it.
I'm not sure about offsetting rings. I have 20-30 moa bases on all by 22 rifles and have no problem. I'm zeroed at 25 yards.littlepod,
Thanks for the reply. I feel comfortable with the scope/rail combo getting out to 300. I am more concerned at the shorter end. It seems as some in the thread have taken some of the 30 moa elevation out with the use of offsetting rings to be able to get the rifle on & sighted at 50 yards. Again, I am rather new to this and I could be misinterpreting what is going on. I simply want to go through the scope mounting process once as opposed to having to redo it due to my own ignorance.
Thanks littlepod, that makes sense. Since you are looking at the same setup, can I ask what rings you plan to go with?I'm not sure about offsetting rings. I have 20-30 moa bases on all by 22 rifles and have no problem. I'm zeroed at 25 yards.
With 80 moa of travel you have enough adjustments to do everything.
In older cheaper scopes where maybe the total travel is 40 moa then yes there might be issues since you won't have enough adjustments to adjust low enough for a 25 yd zero.