Official (DTA) SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

TYB422

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I did some light range work on the new rifle. 22.5 ES Tac 6.5 CM with a TBAC Ultra 7. Minox ZP5 5-25x56 in an American Rifle Company M10 Q-DL 40 mm high, 30 MOA base.

I bought some cheap Sellier & Bellot ammo to shoot while I break the barrel in. After getting the rifle zeroed at 100 yards, I have 17 Mils of up elevation left on the scope out of 28. I know that the ammo is pretty tame and different ammo will be higher velocity, but that still seems rather middle of my scope for the MOA base and distance.

Am I out of line to think I should have been further down the elevation on my scope?

Thanks!
I had a similar experience with my rifle… the velocity will improve a couple hundred feet per second as the barrel gets broken in in the next few hundred rounds. Combine that with the S&B ammo, which is couple hundred feet per second slower than std 6.5 Creedmoor loading, that adds up to what you’re experiencing.
 

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Gonna take a lot of velocity to be at the 23mil area he should be.
Have you shot it without the suppressor?
I have not. Since I never shoot unsuppressed and only have 20 rounds down the pipe, I haven’t played with it much, yet. I was just very surprised I wasn’t in the bottom 1/3 of my elevation.

may need that 60 MOA scope mount to get more travel on my rifle. I have plenty for 1000 yards but when I can afford it, I’m wanting to add barrels to get me to a mile. I’ll need a different mount to do that.
 

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I have not. Since I never shoot unsuppressed and only have 20 rounds down the pipe, I haven’t played with it much, yet. I was just very surprised I wasn’t in the bottom 1/3 of my elevation.

may need that 60 MOA scope mount to get more travel on my rifle. I have plenty for 1000 yards but when I can afford it, I’m wanting to add barrels to get me to a mile. I’ll need a different mount to do that.
How much gap between the bottom of your objective bell on the scope and the top of the forend?
 

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I think I would look at a different mount. Unless I’m losing my mind (always possible), closing that gap will Give you back elevation options in the right direction. Check out the aadmount (or many others.)

can someone else check my logic here?
 

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We are working on one. Hopefully we will have one in the new few weeks.
Interested to see where your second mounting point is, assuming MLOK?
Such a shame they missed the boat on that. They could have pretty easily gone arca on the bottom of the handguard, changed the skins a bit and run it all the way to the trigger guard.
 

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Changing the height of the mount does relatively nothing to your elevation. You want to make the front lower than the rear. That's what canted mounts do for you.

Just so we are clear though, you dont combine a low ring and a high ring. You get a canted mount or adjustable rings like Burris.
I think I would look at a different mount. Unless I’m losing my mind (always possible), closing that gap will Give you back elevation options in the right direction. Check out the aadmount (or many others.)

can someone else check my logic here?
 
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For those of you wanting RRS spec ARCA style rails on the A2. Do you want a continual full length rail along the entire bottom of the hand guard to the frame or would you prefer a shorter rail (5” or so) that would go from the trigger guard to to the first couple inches of the hand guard (similar to what RRS has for the A1)?
 
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Shorter rail.

For those of you wanting RRS spec ARCA style rails on the A2. Do you want a continual full length rail along the entire bottom of the hand guard to the frame or would you prefer a shorter rail (5” or so) that would go from the trigger guard to to the first couple inches of the hand guard (similar to what RRS has for the A1)?
 
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For those of you wanting RRS spec ARCA style rails on the A2. Do you want a continual full length rail along the entire bottom of the hand guard to the frame or would you prefer a shorter rail (5” or so) that would go from the trigger guard to to the first couple inches of the hand guard (similar to what RRS has for the A1)?
Probably shorter.
 
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I don't have any plans to go to an A2, but my A1 has a full length rail and my Atlas bipods all have RRS clamps so I can slide the bipod rearward if I need to shoot off some sort of barricade as well as mounting to a tripod
 
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So I’ve seen a couple posts about cutting down SRS A1 handguards and thought I had stumbled across some covert length ones for sale. Can anyone point me to a place to buy covert length hand guard for my A1?
 

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Cutting down?
My covert has a short forearm, barely clears a 16 barrel. What were you looking for?
Sorry should have been more clear. I currently have the standard length that clears a 22.5” barrel. I want to get down to covert length but I don’t want to cut down like I’ve seen some do to get to covert length, would rather get a covert hand guard and have both but wasn’t finding anything looking around at some online stores.
 

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Sorry should have been more clear. I currently have the standard length that clears a 22.5” barrel. I want to get down to covert length but I don’t want to cut down like I’ve seen some do to get to covert length, would rather get a covert hand guard and have both but wasn’t finding anything looking around at some online stores.
Midwest Gun Works has the covert handguard. Don't forget to get the handguard tool.
 
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Sorry should have been more clear. I currently have the standard length that clears a 22.5” barrel. I want to get down to covert length but I don’t want to cut down like I’ve seen some do to get to covert length, would rather get a covert hand guard and have both but wasn’t finding anything looking around at some online stores.
Ahhhhhh. I see. Desert tech doesnt sell the part? They have 1 mammoth dealer with lots of inventory... big warehouse full of DTS.
I'm little shocked they cant help you direct though.
 

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Mark from SAC replied to an email I sent asking for approx time for my 223 conversion I ordered on the Black Friday special. He said they’re done or nearly so on their work. Waiting on parts from Desert Tech before shipping. He said a couple weeks, hopefully.

I was totally expecting February or even March if the orders were numerous. Not late December or early January.

Now I need to decide on some ammo to buy. Anyone want to suggest something that works well in their barrel?

Edit:

I guess I should add I have ordered a 26”, long range chamber for the barrel, not the varmit chamber.
 
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For those of you wanting RRS spec ARCA style rails on the A2. Do you want a continual full length rail along the entire bottom of the hand guard to the frame or would you prefer a shorter rail (5” or so) that would go from the trigger guard to to the first couple inches of the hand guard (similar to what RRS has for the A1)?

shorter gets my vote also
 

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Mark from SAC replied to an email I sent asking for approx time for my 223 conversion I ordered on the Black Friday special. He said they’re done or nearly so on their work. Waiting on parts from Desert Tech before shipping. He said a couple weeks, hopefully.

I was totally expecting February or even March if the orders were numerous. Not late December or early January.

Now I need to decide on some ammo to buy. Anyone want to suggest something that works well in their barrel?

Edit:

I guess I should add I have ordered a 26”, long range chamber for the barrel, not the varmit chamber.
Thank you for the update And that is the best fricken news I have heard in a long time.
I wonder what the hell they could be waiting on from Desert? I thought they engineered and made all the 223 parts?
I too ordered the 26” long chambered barrel.
I have seen a good amount of people with great results with the 75gr ELD. But that was handloads.
 

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Thank you for the update And that is the best fricken news I have heard in a long time.
I wonder what the hell they could be waiting on from Desert? I thought they engineered and made all the 223 parts?
I too ordered the 26” long chambered barrel.
I have seen a good amount of people with great results with the 75gr ELD. But that was handloads.
I ordered a bolt too. As to anything else, I don’t know.
 

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Does anyone have the program file to 3d print a single shot sled for SRS? I’ve seen a few for sale but I’ve got a 3d printer sitting idle. Thanks
 

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Yes sir and 24.5 grains of Varget set to the ogive at 1.980 and that is .014 off the lands.
 
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What kind of speed are you getting out of the H335? I was able to get 2880 out of there varget.
 

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I didn't chronograph that load, but Quickload (which I have found to usually be pretty accurate) has it at 3279 fps from a 26" barrel. Also, please note that this is an above listed maximum load. It shows no pressure signs in my rifle, but that might not be the case in yours, so approach with caution.

What I can say for certain is that it's an awesome varmint load!