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@koshkin you know as much about Meoptas plan as anyone, word is on another forum that Meopta told a guy they were dropping the SFP 1-6x 223RD option. Any idea why? I just went from being really excited to completely uninterested if its true.
Some scope/reticle combos are being dropped completely or pushed back to Q1 2020 production; those being the ones that received little demand. Reason being, they can focus on the high demand options to increase production and get more of those out to dealers and consumers faster.
 
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@shiples1 I'm sure that all makes perfect business sense, they're making a majority of potential customers happier, but they're also losing a small minority entirely.
Any idea if the the scope/reticle mentioned above falls into the nixed or just delayed category?
 

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@shiples1 I'm sure that all makes perfect business sense, they're making a majority of potential customers happier, but they're also losing a small minority entirely.
Any idea if the the scope/reticle mentioned above falls into the nixed or just delayed category?
WILL NOT BE PRODUCED
653546RIFLESCOPE OPTIKA6 1-6X24 FFP .223
653547RIFLESCOPE OPTIKA6 1-6X24 FFP Kdot
653555RIFLESCOPE OPTIKA6 1-6X24 FFP IL Z-Plus
653562RIFLESCOPE OPTIKA6 3-18X50 FFP .223
653563RIFLESCOPE OPTIKA6 3-18X50 FFP .308
653564RIFLESCOPE OPTIKA6 3-18X50 FFP 6.5 CREEDMOR
653575RIFLESCOPE OPTIKA6 3-18X56 FFP Z-PLEX
653607RIFLESCOPE OPTIKA6 5-30X56 FFP IL 6.5 CREEDMOOR
653611RIFLESCOPE OPTIKA6 1-6X24 SFP IL .223
653617RIFLESCOPE OPTIKA6 2.5-15X44 SFP .223
653618RIFLESCOPE OPTIKA6 2.5-15X44 SFP .308
653625RIFLESCOPE OPTIKA6 2-5-15X44 SFP IL Z-PLlus
653628RIFLESCOPE OPTIKA6 2-5-15X44 SFP IL K-Dot
653632RIFLESCOPE OPTIKA6 3-18X50 SFP .223
653633RIFLESCOPE OPTIKA6 3-18X50 SFP 6.5 CREEDMOOR
653674RIFLESCOPE OPTIKA6 3-18x56 SFP DichroTech Z-Plus
 
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DELAYED for Q1 2020 production:

653560RIFLESCOPE OPTIKA6 3-18X50 FFP Z-Plex
653590RIFLESCOPE OPTIKA6 4.5-27X50 FFP Z-Plex
653592RIFLESCOPE OPTIKA6 4.5-27X50 FFP IL .223
653606RIFLESCOPE OPTIKA6 5-30X56 FFP IL .308
653610RIFLESCOPE OPTIKA6 1-6X24 SFP Z-Plex
653641RIFLESCOPE OPTIKA6 3-18X50 SFP IL .223
653673RIFLESCOPE OPTIKA6 4.5-27X50 SFP IL 6.5 Creedmoor
 

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OpticsPlanet just told me end of January for the 5-30 MRAD RD. I cancelled. Probably go Midas Tac 34mm or see what if I can get a steal on another ETR and be done with it.
 
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OpticsPlanet just told me end of January for the 5-30 MRAD RD. I cancelled. Probably go Midas Tac 34mm or see what if I can get a steal on another ETR and be done with it.
Over 3 months... did Meopta just grossly underestimate the demand for their scopes? I wonder what's going on. I have the same scope on order from Cameraland, I hope it's not quite that long before I get my hands on it.
 
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Over 3 months... did Meopta just grossly underestimate the demand for their scopes? I wonder what's going on. I have the same scope on order from Cameraland, I hope it's not quite that long before I get my hands on it.
Yep, if that's the case everywhere I'll just look for an ETR too and try a Meopta later next year when someone has tested the hell out of it.
 

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Shiples, Thank you for the update. I haven't seen that info previously. Makes sense to get what guys want on their rifles out to them ASAP. I have heard from a number of hunters who are excited about the 2.5-15x44 configuration, a versatile hunting set up. I am loving my 3-18x56, yes, 56. Amazing light gathering capabilities that has dispatched a number of OK swine after sunset.
 
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Where's the market for these reticles? Do people actually buy caliber specific reticles?
For a precision rifle, absolutely not. I don't really understand the 6.5CM BDC options.
But in a 1-6x while doing what 1-6's typically do, sit on a 223 AR and shoot from 0-500 yards on 3 moa or bigger targets without dialing, the generic 223 BDC is just right.
 

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Can anybody comment on how the 3-18 model with the horseshoe reticle compares to the LRHS optically in either the 3-12 model or the 4.5-18 model? It seems I may have an interest in the Optika6 scope for a hunting rifle that is going to be sporting an LRHS starting this coming season.
 
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It was my specialty in college when I was studying engineering.

It is utterly amazing what those men and women accomplished, and the story of Legasov was one almost nobody knew in the west. VERY few people can say they saved the world and many of them that can were Russian.

Look up Stanislav Petrov sometime if you wa t to see another hero.

In fact almost every documentary made glossed over Legasovs contribution until this one.

The inaccuracies in the show were low as well.

If I could change anything it would be to include the event that made Dyatlov such an asshole - there was a reason he was like that and it was again the fault of the Soviet system.

Anyone else get a new Optika in recently? I’m on the edge of cancelling my orders as I’m concerned about the supply chain on this one.


Flew over that place awhile back.
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It was my specialty in college when I was studying engineering.

It is utterly amazing what those men and women accomplished, and the story of Legasov was one almost nobody knew in the west. VERY few people can say they saved the world and many of them that can were Russian.

Look up Stanislav Petrov sometime if you wa t to see another hero.

In fact almost every documentary made glossed over Legasovs contribution until this one.

The inaccuracies in the show were low as well.

If I could change anything it would be to include the event that made Dyatlov such an asshole - there was a reason he was like that and it was again the fault of the Soviet system.

Anyone else get a new Optika in recently? I’m on the edge of cancelling my orders as I’m concerned about the supply chain on this one.
I ordered mine from sport optics a couple of weeks ago and received it straight from Meopta within a week.
 
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@koshkin you know as much about Meoptas plan as anyone, word is on another forum that Meopta told a guy they were dropping the SFP 1-6x 223RD option. Any idea why? I just went from being really excited to completely uninterested if its true.
This is true for now, but I have sent a long dissertation on why this should not be and they are taking it under consideration. The FFP MRAD2 should be your next choice if they do decide to can the SFP 223.
 
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Can anybody comment on how the 3-18 model with the horseshoe reticle compares to the LRHS optically in either the 3-12 model or the 4.5-18 model? It seems I may have an interest in the Optika6 scope for a hunting rifle that is going to be sporting an LRHS starting this coming season.
Got both, what do you want to know?
 
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Got both, what do you want to know?
Glass wise, optical clarity which seems best to you. And most importantly, since I find these scopes more suited toward hunting applications, which performs best in low light? I am putting my LRHS on my dad's model 70 for this hunting season and might consider an optika6 if they perform well and are very clear. He is getting older and has trouble identifying certain bucks or seeing certain details from his 300 dollar Nikon. That is the main reason why I'm passing on the bushy over to him. I would like for his rifle to sport some decent glass...
 

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This is true for now, but I have sent a long dissertation on why this should not be and they are taking it under consideration. The FFP MRAD2 should be your next choice if they do decide to can the SFP 223.
Do you already have the 1-6x24 with MRAD2?

I just received the 3-18x50 with MRAD1 and I am beginning to look at it.

ILya
 

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@koshkin Im curious about the glass and turrets of the MO6 5-30 vs the XTRIII.
Have you had a chance to peek at both of them?
 
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Thanks for the heads-up in the change in production models. With the removal of the 653611 I won't be following this one. Hoping someone at Meopta is paying attention here.
 

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Do you already have the 1-6x24 with MRAD2?

I just received the 3-18x50 with MRAD1 and I am beginning to look at it.

ILya
No, as of now I have the 5-30 MRAD and 3-18 MRAD1 only. I am merely basing my opinion of the MRAD2 off the subtension maps.
 

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Have you already posted your impressions on the two you have?

I've been all over the place, so I may have missed it.

Ilya
I have not. You would be better suited for reviews than me. I have not even mounted them up yet, been way too busy. I will try to give my thoughts on the 3-18 against the LRHS though when I get a chance, as that is the scope it is looking to replace, one I love, and one that I am very familiar with.

As for the 5-30, I don't even know what I would begin to compare it with at this price range, and from a pure pricing standpoint, I have likely not handled many of its competitors. Most of my optics are a tier or two higher. Initial thoughts are its going to be very hard to beat at the price being offered. The glass appears very nice, the feel of the controls are great for the price range and the scope feels very robust. Cons for me on the 5-30, just by handling it, would be no locking windage and weight/length. Haven't tested illumination yet at all, but to be honest, I almost never use illumination on my scopes anyway.

Regardless, I would rather you do the reviewing, so hurry up. :)
 
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I have not. You would be better suited for reviews than me. I have not even mounted them up yet, been way too busy. I will try to give my thoughts on the 3-18 against the LRHS though when I get a chance, as that is the scope it is looking to replace, one I love, and one that I am very familiar with.

As for the 5-30, I don't even know what I would begin to compare it with at this price range, and from a pure pricing standpoint, I have likely not handled many of its competitors. Most of my optics are a tier or two higher. Initial thoughts are its going to be very hard to beat at the price being offered. The glass appears very nice, the feel of the controls are great for the price range and the scope feels very robust. Cons for me on the 5-30, just by handling it, would be no locking windage and weight/length. Haven't tested illumination yet at all, but to be honest, I almost never use illumination on my scopes anyway.

Regardless, I would rather you do the reviewing, so hurry up. :)
I am working on that.

I am really curious about user impressions on the reticles. Most of the time when I design a reticle for a company, it is a one shot type of thing: I put together a design and do not get a chance to see it in a scope until it is in production. Whatever I learn from user feedback, goes into the next design.

ILya
 
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My 3-18 SFP with the Z-plex reticle from SportOptics, is supposed to be here tomorrow. You guys are scareing me! I don't care for christmas trees and bubbles and numbers, I have trouble enough with crosshairs! I am expecting German glass quality. Will be disappointed if it isn't head and shoulders better than my Grand Slam!

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I have not. You would be better suited for reviews than me. I have not even mounted them up yet, been way too busy. I will try to give my thoughts on the 3-18 against the LRHS though when I get a chance, as that is the scope it is looking to replace, one I love, and one that I am very familiar with.

As for the 5-30, I don't even know what I would begin to compare it with at this price range, and from a pure pricing standpoint, I have likely not handled many of its competitors. Most of my optics are a tier or two higher. Initial thoughts are its going to be very hard to beat at the price being offered. The glass appears very nice, the feel of the controls are great for the price range and the scope feels very robust. Cons for me on the 5-30, just by handling it, would be no locking windage and weight/length. Haven't tested illumination yet at all, but to be honest, I almost never use illumination on my scopes anyway.

Regardless, I would rather you do the reviewing, so hurry up. :)
You dont have to write a full essay, just a few thoughts on the glass, turrets and reticle, and a brief comparison against any other scopes you own.
 

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My 3-18 SFP with the Z-plex reticle from SportOptics, is supposed to be here tomorrow. You guys are scareing me! I don't care for christmas trees and bubbles and numbers, I have trouble enough with crosshairs! I am expecting German glass quality. Will be disappointed if it isn't head and shoulders better than my Grand Slam!

Bill
You may be disappointed if you think the Optika 6 will compare as closely as the Meostar B1’s do to Swaro’s. It is important to keep in mind, Meopta’s top tier glass compares with top tier German glass but the Optika 6 is not Meopta’s top tier glass. It will thus compare to “not top tier” glass from the big 3. The question I think most people want to know is where in the middle it falls. I am sure we will see some real world comparisons over this next year and look forward to them.
 
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Jafo96, I agree with your statement. Comparing a sub $300 bino to one that costs 3.5 times as much is unrealistic and will lead to disappointment. Looking at the Optika bino against other bino's in that range will give you confidence that you made the right choice for quality and value, IMHO. Even though I do some freelance work with Meopta my opinion is not skewed and true to my experience.

 
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My 3-18 SFP with the Z-plex reticle from SportOptics, is supposed to be here tomorrow. You guys are scareing me! I don't care for christmas trees and bubbles and numbers, I have trouble enough with crosshairs! I am expecting German glass quality. Will be disappointed if it isn't head and shoulders better than my Grand Slam!

Bill
Depending on what model of grand slam.........you may be dissappointed. My understanding is that the optika6 line is similar to a Meopro. If that is the case, my 5-20x50mm Grand Slams (new model) are as good or "better" at resolution, depth of field, and overall glass quality than a Meopro. Though, very close to the same glass quality, I'd give the new model Grand Slams the edge over the many 4.5-14x44 Meopro's that I have side/side directly compared them to. I haven't seen an Optika6 yet, so I look forward to your evaluation.

What model of Grand Slam are you referring to?
 
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Glass is so very subjective to each individual!

To me.. my 3-18x50 F1 Optika6 has slightly better optical quality than my 4-14x56 NF SHV, and slightly less than my 50 and 56mm Razor GEN 2’s. Of course I don’t have a ton of time behind it yet, but those were my initial impressions.
 
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The 'Horseshoe' is too small, it makes holding for wind less than 1 MIL a guessing game. I'm not sure I've seen a good reticle yet for making a FFP scope worth a chit on low power.
 

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Has anyone set their zero stop yet? I am an idiot and can't figure it out.

Thanks in advance

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Zero stop system is a bit different than what I have seen before. It is an interesting concept with the 3 revolution rotating counter / cog piece. Anyhow, I just finished up the instructive diagram that will go in the review. This should clear things up. The manual that comes with the scope is singularly useless in all regards.

2019 10 23 meopta optika 6 zero stop set.jpg
 

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The 'Horseshoe' is too small, it makes holding for wind less than 1 MIL a guessing game. I'm not sure I've seen a good reticle yet for making a FFP scope worth a chit on low power.
Still haven't mounted mine up, so no comment, just been too busy. But as for FFP reticles on low power, the LRHS G2H has been a proven winner for a long time if you aren't happy with the MRAD2.
 

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Jafo96, I agree with your statement. Comparing a sub $300 bino to one that costs 3.5 times as much is unrealistic and will lead to disappointment. Looking at the Optika bino against other bino's in that range will give you confidence that you made the right choice for quality and value, IMHO. Even though I do some freelance work with Meopta my opinion is not skewed and true to my experience.

That bino right there is ridiculously good for the price. You are correct.
 
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Mounted my new 3-18x50, could not be happier. I am 80 and so have some eye problems, often at higher power I see 2 vertical crosshairs and cannot adjust them out without messing up the focus. Was able to with this scope. The turrets adjust accurately and the clicks are crisp AND I could read the turret markings. Have not looked through it at dusk or shot the rifle much, yet. At this point I am very happy. Thought I wanted the 2.5-15x44, but the availibility and slight difference in size convinced me to get the 3-18.
 
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