Making a dofference one little step at ta time...

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FYI, that link goes dead/404.

As it is though, we have been champions of bees for a few years now, around here. On a tiny scale compared to most, but the attitude of too many is that they are 'inconsequential'. And we feel that this is wrong. Friends of ours have 'urban hives' and we support them and bees. Largely.

Keep up the good work!
 

lash

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Funny story about honey bees and saving them in order to save the Earth. Okay, not a funny story.

Last year a swarm of honeybees created a hive attached to the upside down gunwale if my canoe that was lying unused while the lake was dry. It was a nice small swarm with comb just bigger than a football. I wanted to save the swarm and get them a good home, so started researching places around here that might be interested.

Short story is that I spent days calling beekeepers and even so-called honeybee rescue groups to find someone that would come and get the bees. Nobody. They all had reasons why they couldn't or wouldn't come get the bees. Even the guys with fancy "Save The Bees!" Websites. It was one excuse after another, even after I told them how easily accessible this hive was and that it was probably literally a 20-30 min job tops (including suiting up).

I grew up around keepers and know a bit and when I got frustrated with one save the bees guy and told him what a sham I thought he was perpetuating, he agreed to come pick them up for a "modest" fee of $375, for his time. What a freakin' joke.

And don't get me started on Monsanto!!!
 

Maggot

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FYI, that link goes dead/404.

As it is though, we have been champions of bees for a few years now, around here. On a tiny scale compared to most, but the attitude of too many is that they are 'inconsequential'. And we feel that this is wrong. Friends of ours have 'urban hives' and we support them and bees. Largely.

Keep up the good work!
/Apologies, the link now works.
 

Maggot

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Apparently I have found that the hippie earth worshiper types share my feelings in regards Monsanto, so anytime I don't want to argue with them but want to get along nicely for a bit... just start with what you think should befall Monsanto......
At least we agree on something. In some respects a very big something. Our right to grow our own food.
 
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Funny story about honey bees and saving them in order to save the Earth. Okay, not a funny story.

Last year a swarm of honeybees created a hive attached to the upside down gunwale if my canoe that was lying unused while the lake was dry. It was a nice small swarm with comb just bigger than a football. I wanted to save the swarm and get them a good home, so started researching places around here that might be interested.

Short story is that I spent days calling beekeepers and even so-called honeybee rescue groups to find someone that would come and get the bees. Nobody. They all had reasons why they couldn't or wouldn't come get the bees. Even the guys with fancy "Save The Bees!" Websites. It was one excuse after another, even after I told them how easily accessible this hive was and that it was probably literally a 20-30 min job tops (including suiting up).

I grew up around keepers and know a bit and when I got frustrated with one save the bees guy and told him what a sham I thought he was perpetuating, he agreed to come pick them up for a "modest" fee of $375, for his time. What a freakin' joke.

And don't get me started on Monsanto!!!
It was good of you to try to save them. Hell of a lot more than most folks would have done, probably including me.

I try to be careful with insecticides in the garden. I mostly use chems that don’t kill for any extended time and try not to spray anything that’s blooming.
 

softcock

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I like lots of Bee's around the place, I don't have a vacant Detroit ghetto lot to keep bee's, But doing my part to feed them and keep them around here . I found an easy way and been planting Russian Sage around in different spots around house property for several years now . The Bee's just Love them and the big Bumble Bee's also, And Bee's hang out in huge volume all summer till I chop the Sage back in late fall .

Russian sage grows Big and flowers-out thick bushy, Purple in color and sticky to the touch . They look good, smell good, need very little care and grows best on the hottest and crappies places that all your other plants you have suffer to live in . Also attracts a lot of Humming birds hanging around going in and out of them when the Russian sage gets really thick flowered and pungent .
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Maggot

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I like lots of Bee's around the place, I don't have a vacant Detroit ghetto lot to keep bee's, But doing my part to feed them and keep them around here . I found an easy way and been planting Russian Sage around in different spots around house property for several years now . The Bee's just Love them and the big Bumble Bee's also, And Bee's hang out in huge volume all summer till I chop the Sage back in late fall .

Russian sage grows Big and flowers-out thick bushy, Purple in color and sticky to the touch . They look good, smell good, need very little care and grows best on the hottest and crappies places that all your other plants you have suffer to live in . Also attracts a lot of Humming birds hanging around going in and out of them when the Russian sage gets really thick flowered and pungent .
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Thanks tor the tip on the Russian Sage, Ive got 8 fruit trees spaced around the perimeter of the yard the hives are in and a wild flower area, and severa, thanks to super corney, no till garden areas. The Sage will be a nice addition...is it flavorful for cooking like regular?
 

Maggot

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I don't know why people have to bother bees. Why can't they buy their honey at the grocery store? Same for killing animals for meat.
All honey comes from some bee somewhere. Collecting wild hives actually gives them a better, more secure home where they can be treated for mites and other parasites (and bears) which can destroy the colony. Most commercial beekeepers dont do it for the honey, they move their hives around seasonally from orchard to orchard for fertilization. n bees, no pollination, no fruit. The nice thing about having your own or at least local honey is it comes form the local plants and their pollens, which can help alleviate allergies that come from those plants.

Its a win/win for the bees and their keepers.
 

hlee

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All honey comes from some bee somewhere. Collecting wild hives actually gives them a better, more secure home where they can be treated for mites and other parasites (and bears) which can destroy the colony. Most commercial beekeepers dont do it for the honey, they move their hives around seasonally from orchard to orchard for fertilization. n bees, no pollination, no fruit. The nice thing about having your own or at least local honey is it comes form the local plants and their pollens, which can help alleviate allergies that come from those plants.

Its a win/win for the bees and their keepers.
I believe you are being trolled...
 
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ArmyJerry

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I read 97% of store bought honey is adulterated with corn syrup and other artificial sweeteners, the more bees the better for everybody, except the people that are allergic to stings, but screw them, god hates them and they weren't meant to surviving past the first year anyway.
 
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I read 97% of store bought honey is adulterated with corn syrup and other artificial sweeteners, the more bees the better for everybody, except the people that are allergic to stings, but screw them, god hates them and they weren't meant to surviving past the first year anyway.
I believe it. Store bought taste like the center of a HoHo.
 
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Ive just taken up beekeeping so this is of particular interest but protecting our bee population should be important to all...except Monsanto (Now Bayer).

Black Beekeepers Are Transforming Detroit’s Vacant Lots Into ...

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrBT6I.Gqhawk4ANBpXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTByOHZyb21tBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg--/RV=2/RE=1520995007/RO=10/RU=https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/detroit-hives-honeybees_us_5a6cfc9ee4b0ddb658c7019c/RK=2/RS=Cf3F5ukBG_jNHBzc1bfpwTMnHG4-

I don't read huff post
 

mheimer_45

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So.....what’s wrong with Monsanto?? Other than they take 45% of my profit. I’m a farmer. Not a corporate farmer. We run about 4000 acres. Majority of which has a Monsanto product on it. I work 7 days a week and miss most of the news except what’s on the pit and Maggie’s.
 

Maggot

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My pap started keeping bees couple years back. I leave that craziness to him LOL I dont care to get stung. Apparently you can use smoke or something to calm em down tho
You'd be surprised how easy going honey bees are. Wehn I was a kid my grandfather had hundreds of hives. In the back yard was a row 100 feet long with hives on both sides every 4 feet apart. Even in the summerwhen they were really flying we would run down the path and very rarely get stung. They die is they sting so they usually try not to. They dont want no shit!!! My grandfather could catch them in his bare hands. As long as you dont pinch it or scare it it wont sting.
 

supercorndogs

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I read 97% of store bought honey is adulterated with corn syrup and other artificial sweeteners, the more bees the better for everybody, except the people that are allergic to stings, but screw them, god hates them and they weren't meant to surviving past the first year anyway.
Not just honey, jelly and jam too. Get the really expensive stuff with three ingredients, Fruit, pectan, sugar and compare to a jar of suckers. It will be corn syrup and high fructose corn syrup because by dividing in-between the two, corn syrup does not have to be listed as their number one ingredient.
 

supercorndogs

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I have been wanting to add bees in for a few years now, only problem is I am terrified of them. I keep a healthy wasp population also, I don't like to spray for bugs, I would rather let them eat each other. I think they might give my bees trouble
 

supercorndogs

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So.....what’s wrong with Monsanto?? Other than they take 45% of my profit. I’m a farmer. Not a corporate farmer. We run about 4000 acres. Majority of which has a Monsanto product on it. I work 7 days a week and miss most of the news except what’s on the pit and Maggie’s.
Besides forcing people to sign crazy wavers and give up the right to use seed off their land, while continuing to drive practices that are inefficient and detrimental to the creatures that live in and on the ground. Bomb making supplies don't make healthy plants. They don't make nutritious plants. 70% of them are tied up in the soil or leached into the ground water. They kill everything in the soil that cause carbon cycling to happen. Mono culturing, bare soil, tilling all hurt the grounds productivity. If the government didn't pay farmers to do it this way, they would have figured it out a long time ago. But companies like Monsanto keep the money flowing to make it possible. Its our farming welfare system.

Crops today have much less mineral, fulvic and humid acid content than they did 50 years ago.

In Canada they were accused of spreading some their seed by plane on properties then suing farmers not allowing them to use their own seed to replant their fields after that.
 
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Rthur

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So.....what’s wrong with Monsanto?? Other than they take 45% of my profit. I’m a farmer. Not a corporate farmer. We run about 4000 acres. Majority of which has a Monsanto product on it. I work 7 days a week and miss most of the news except what’s on the pit and Maggie’s.
You forgot to add the "tech fee" paid for seed.
Then they take the R&D farmers had to pay for, tech fee, and hand it out to our competition in SA.

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W54/XM-388

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The Canadian government really enabled Monsanto to do all kinds of vile evil stuff, using the courts to blackmail, and bully farmers into giving up their rights & never bothered to go after Monsanto or their paid agents for the criminal and illegal things they did such as ruining farmers crops and then suing them for having their crops ruined by henchmen from Monsanto. If ever there was a corporation that deserved to have everyone be "first against the wall", Monsanto would be among the top choices.
 

Maggot

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Besides forcing people to sign crazy wavers and give up the right to use seed off their land, while continuing to drive practices that are inefficient and detrimental to the creatures that live in and on the ground. Bomb making supplies don't make healthy plants. They don't make nutritious plants. 70% of them are tied up in the soil or leached into the ground water. They kill everything in the soil that cause carbon cycling to happen. Mono culturing, bare soil, tilling all hurt the grounds productivity. If the government didn't pay farmers to do it this way, they would have figured it out a long time ago. But companies like Monsanto keep the money flowing to make it possible. Its our farming welfare system.

Crops today have much less mineral, fulvic and humid acid content than they did 50 years ago.

In Canada they were accused of spreading some their seed by plane on properties then suing farmers not allowing them to use their own seed to replant their fields after that.
The Canadian government really enabled Monsanto to do all kinds of vile evil stuff, using the courts to blackmail, and bully farmers into giving up their rights & never bothered to go after Monsanto or their paid agents for the criminal and illegal things they did such as ruining farmers crops and then suing them for having their crops ruined by henchmen from Monsanto. If ever there was a corporation that deserved to have everyone be "first against the wall", Monsanto would be among the top choices.
And now theyre owned by Bayer. research Bayer corp.
 

Greg Langelius *

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I have bought and consumed local honey for decades, the closer to home, the better. I have some vague conception that doing this can/may help with allergies. Probably a Wives' Tale.

I worked at a Meadery (Earle Estates, Torrey Ridge, NY), and the Meads were made from hives on the property. The Earle family had worked in conjunction with Cornell Agricultural Cooperative to develop more varieties of Meads for commercial use, including the first Dry (as opposed to sweet) Meads. Regular Mead is not hard to make but more interesting varieties take a fair bit of manipulation.

We also specialized in Mead and Fruit Wine blends, some of which were incredibly tasty. My favorites were an Apple-Cranberry-Mead blend, and a very rich bodied Blackberry Mead (fabulous with Venison).

One of the obstacles is that Honey is a natural antiseptic, may have some antibiotic properties, and can interfere with yeasts.

We kept a display hive inside the Meadery's sales area.

Remnants of honey and mead have been found in the pyramids, and Mead may have occurred naturally, and is probably the first historic alcoholic beverage that was ever made. Honey was being used as a natural antiseptic in times predating the Egyptian Dynasties.

Greg
 
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Rthur

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Clover honey is the best I've sampled.
Not much clover left around these parts anymore.
We had an Old Boy that kept many hives on our land.
Used to get a jar with comb once a year.

R
 

Maggot

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Clover honey is the best I've sampled.
Not much clover left around these parts anymore.
We had an Old Boy that kept many hives on our land.
Used to get a jar with comb once a year.

R
If you ever get to my area Ill turn you on to Sourwood honey; it comes from the Sourwood tree, which are rare these days. 60 years ago my graandfather had lots of it. Today if youre lucky enough to find it at all its diluted with other honey's. I was lucky a couple years ago to get turned onto a guy who still has it. He doesnt put his hive in the sourwood grove til the day they bloom and takes them out as soon as they stop so its pretty pure sourwood. Everyone I turn on to it does one of those litts double takes with their head and says the same thing " Thats different, never had any like that before." I buy a case and a half each August and it lasts me out the year, the half case with comb. Beleive it or not you can tase a difference when it is fresh out of the comb...a bit more like fresh pollen.

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