Light weight elk rifle

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Looking to get the wife a light weight mild recoiling rifle for elk we looked today and she fell in love with a christiansen ridgeline 6.5 prc. What does everyone think of this cartige and gun?
 

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I see tons of CA at the range. The 6.5 PRC is new factory support. For a factory carbon fiber barrel gun they are nice. I hate their cylinder type breaks. In my head makes no sense and is annoying to me let alone go prone and you got dust flying everywhere. I prefer their normal 3-9 o’clock breaks.
 

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I see tons of CA at the range. The 6.5 PRC is new factory support. For a factory carbon fiber barrel gun they are nice. I hate their cylinder type breaks. In my head makes no sense and is annoying to me let alone go prone and you got dust flying everywhere. I prefer their normal 3-9 o’clock breaks.
I see tons of CA at the range. The 6.5 PRC is new factory support. For a factory carbon fiber barrel gun they are nice. I hate their cylinder type breaks. In my head makes no sense and is annoying to me let alone go prone and you got dust flying everywhere. I prefer their normal 3-9 o’clock breaks.
Good call didnt even think of it at the moment. I have read alot about the cartridge seem to suit the needs well just wondering if anyone has experience with it.

And as far as the gun dont know if its worth the cost i am wondering if i could have my local shop build me a rifle for a similar price
 

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Build.......
Tikka action, a #3 barrel (or carbon wrapped), and a manners elite hunting stock.
Be way cheaper I am thinking.

Or go Gucci and post pics either way!
 
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Well off the top of my head I think I saw a CA 6.5 PRC for $2700 or maybe $2799 and I am not sure if that was a CF barrel.
A HS precision is $3600-$3700 or so and may weigh more but is a total custom in house production rifle.
You could look into say a 700 action, Lilja (or insert brand) taper barrel, trigger,break, gunsmithing/truing and pick a light weight stock that fits your wife. Probably be around $2700 I am just way guessing from parts I would install because I did just this.
However my rifle is better than the CA
 

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Barret Fieldcraft in 6.5 Creedmoor shooting Federal 130 Berger bullets, or Hornady 143 ELD-X for the win, place and tikka super lite in 7-08 shooting 120 Ballistic Tips for the show.

Take all the money you save on the rifle and buy ammo and shoot the first 500 just to get to know the rifle.
 
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The gun she liked was 1850. She already has a savage 110 in 6.5 creed. I know many people have had succsess taking bull elk with the creed but i would like to have that little extra confidence in the round
 

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I’m building a 7saum elk rifle. Defiance xm Hunter action and BDL bottom metal $1660, manners eh-1 carbon fill stock $664, proof carbon 28 inch barrel $729. Gunsmith chambering $200. I think it’s going to be a good light weight elk gun and not break the bank.
 
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I am getting 2840 fps with the 143 ELDX out of a 23.5" Bartlein in 6.5 Creedmoor using Re16. If you reload, the Creed doesn't give up much to the PRC.
 

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I do reload for the creed her rifle runs around 2790 but wants a lighter rifle. Really i just think she wants another gun so ill use excuse to buy new toys!
 

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Nothing wrong with the rifle or caliber. Both can do the job.
If her heart isn’t set, try to check out Fierce rifles. The Fury is in the same price range, but is a lot more rifle for the $$
Also for elk A 308 or 3006 would be worth considering.
 
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I’m building a 7saum elk rifle. Defiance xm Hunter action and BDL bottom metal $1660, manners eh-1 carbon fill stock $664, proof carbon 28 inch barrel $729. Gunsmith chambering $200. I think it’s going to be a good light weight elk gun and not break the bank.
The Proof barrels on my guns are NOT lighter than some of the steel barrels Christiansen Arms is using. The difference is that they easier to practice or make a more versatile gun with and less prone to walking than plan steel barrels of similar weight.

Who chambers and finishes the muzzle for $200? How much for Devcon or to have it Bedded?

Typically many are around $300-$350 and if you want muzzle threaded +$150ish.. add a brake +100 (kinda nice for an ultra light rifle) $600ish vrs $200 is a big budget gap.

If we are honest all the small stuff really adds up the $ is my point.. I've done this a number of times and always walk away going --- omg, did I really spend that much?

Granted I like what I end up, but man.. it is never on the cheap with the inclusive math.
 

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If your wife already has a 6.5CM I wouldn't buy another rifle chambered in 6.5PRC, it's just too similar and it won't kill an elk any faster. Try looking at the 7-08 or .308, they are both great cartridges that will get the job done out to very reasonable ranges. If that's still not enough, check out the .280AI, it is a very attractive cartridge.
 

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it's just too similar and it won't kill an elk any faster.
yeah go 300win or wsm, something meaningfully different. with a brake it's no big deal and you don't feel the recoil while hunting anyways. and sounds like you reload, but the 300's have a really abundant ammo varieties and availability.
 

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Sure match firearms in savanna Tn . It will be a target crown not threaded. With a 28 inch barrel I will be ok. I hate a muzzle brake on a hunting rifle. I will bed the barreled action and put gun together when I get it back from smith. Been elk hunting public land in Colorado for 12 years. 7saum is my favorite elk round hands down. Hope this helps
 

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The gun she liked was 1850. She already has a savage 110 in 6.5 creed. I know many people have had succsess taking bull elk with the creed but i would like to have that little extra confidence in the round
The Swedes have been slaying moose with the 6.5 for over a hundred years, and moose are much larger than elk.

Use the $1850 on ammo, and the confidence will follow. There is nothing a 7mm or 30 Cal will add to the fight that makes any difference on the receiving end of the bullet.
 

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If I could afford it right now, I’d go with a Proof Switch rifle. Can probably build it for cheaper, but it still seems like a slick little lightweight hunting rifle.
 

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I’m building a 7saum elk rifle. Defiance xm Hunter action and BDL bottom metal $1660, manners eh-1 carbon fill stock $664, proof carbon 28 inch barrel $729. Gunsmith chambering $200. I think it’s going to be a good light weight elk gun and not break the bank.
I’m planning this same build except I’m going with a straight 7mm Rem Mag and go with a 24-26” barrel length and a brake. Should be a pretty lightweight hunting rifle.
 

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The proof switch is badass but definitely not in the budget right now

No minds are made up on caliber so options are appreciated.

Ultimate goal is a light weight mid recoil rifle! this would be her first time hunting and last think i want to do is put her off by lugging around a heavy rifle
 

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A short Proof barrel is the way to go if you're looking for a light rifle to hump around the woods. 7mm-08 or 308 hold up well (velocity wise) to chopping the barrel down, without the shoulder punch of the magnums. Personally like the 300wm for all North American big game - but the previously mentioned calibers will surely get the job done.
 

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The gun she liked was 1850. She already has a savage 110 in 6.5 creed. I know many people have had succsess taking bull elk with the creed but i would like to have that little extra confidence in the round
I gave my grandson a Savage Light Weight Hunter chambered in a 260 when he was 12. He got to hunt elk this year and killed a nice 6x6 (actually it was 7x6) at 408 yds.
140 berger. Bullet was in the skin on the off side.
The Savage short action magazines, 3" can make good use of the the long bullets in a 260 (if you handload).IMG_1404 (2)-1.JPG
 

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I would recommend a Cooper 92 in 280 ai. Super diverse, and very light weight while maintaining a good Ridgid stock.
 

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I'd go bigger than 6.5 PRC for elk sized game. My elk rifle is a 28 Nosler in a christensen ridgeline. Recoil is not bad at all. Also have a 300WSM being built. For anything smaller I have a 18" 6.5 creedmoor and some shorter 308s for in the woods etc.
 

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My choice right now for my Idaho elk hunt in the fall is a Barrett Fieldcraft in 6.5CM. Though this thread has got me thinking of a Fierce Fury in 300WM.

Edit: I'll just go with the Fieldcraft on second thought. Getting the Fierce Fury to the right thread pitch to use a TBAC suppressor would be too much of a pain in the ass.
 
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I got my dad a Seekins Havak a year amd a half ago. Great rifle, and would be pretty packable, imho. I believe they chamber it jn 6.5 PRC
 
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People are split in this thread (creedmore is plenty for elk vs. you need something massive like 300 win mag).

The answer is pretty simple. What kind of shooter/hunter is your wife?

If she will directly strike the vitals there is literally just ONE INCH of elk between the outside of its body and the vital organs. Almost ANY bullet will suffice and 6.5 Creedmore will be fantastic. I’ve dropped several in their tracks with a .223 from an SBR.

If she will take shots that rely on passing through the shoulder to reach the vitals, then yes, some of the magnums are good choices.
 

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People are split in this thread (creedmore is plenty for elk vs. you need something massive like 300 win mag).

The answer is pretty simple. What kind of shooter/hunter is your wife?

If she will directly strike the vitals there is literally just ONE INCH of elk between the outside of its body and the vital organs. Almost ANY bullet will suffice and 6.5 Creedmore will be fantastic. I’ve dropped several in their tracks with a .223 from an SBR.

If she will take shots that rely on passing through the shoulder to reach the vitals, then yes, some of the magnums are good choices.
I hope you were making headshots with that 223...
 

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Headshots not required. Perhaps you missed my factual (measured) statement about only needing to pierce 1 inch before you’re in the vitals. Dropped several this way. The furthest one made it was 16 yards.

I’ve done this (and/or watched a buddy) with:

40 grain vmax
50 grain vmax
60 grain vmax
77 grain TMK
62 grain Gold Dot

All worked excellently. All were from SBRs except a couple at 16”

This is not recommended for the hunting skill or hunting style of most hunters.

The point is, if .233 works well, then 6.5 Creedmoor is WAY WAY WAY beyond acceptable for shooters who make direct vital shots. As previously stated, if you’re counting on a shoulder shot something else may be appropriate.



I hope you were making headshots with that 223...
 

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You do you but I don’t think taking an elk with a .223 is ethical unless it’s head shots and I personally never would. I understand your point and also understand shot placement trumps energy/displacement every time. That said, just because something can be done doesn’t mean it should be done.
 
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I’m building a 7saum elk rifle. Defiance xm Hunter action and BDL bottom metal $1660, manners eh-1 carbon fill stock $664, proof carbon 28 inch barrel $729. Gunsmith chambering $200. I think it’s going to be a good light weight elk gun and not break the bank.
I hunt with a very similar rifle. Defiance Hunter 7 SAUM, EH-1 carbon fill stock, Bartlein 3B at 26”. Topped with S&B 4-16. Weighs just under 9lbs with DBM. 168 gr Berger hybrids at 3150 fps. Hunted Canadian moose, red stag and blackbuck in Argentina, and will be headed to South Africa for sable in July and Scotland for roe deer in March 2020. It shoots great. 1/2” group at 300 yards. Built by Marc Soulie. Rounds loaded by Andrew McCourt. Would definitely build another one.

CWJ
 

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Headshots not required. Perhaps you missed my factual (measured) statement about only needing to pierce 1 inch before you’re in the vitals. Dropped several this way. The furthest one made it was 16 yards.

I’ve done this (and/or watched a buddy) with:

40 grain vmax
50 grain vmax
60 grain vmax
77 grain TMK
62 grain Gold Dot

All worked excellently. All were from SBRs except a couple at 16”

This is not recommended for the hunting skill or hunting style of most hunters.

The point is, if .233 works well, then 6.5 Creedmoor is WAY WAY WAY beyond acceptable for shooters who make direct vital shots. As previously stated, if you’re counting on a shoulder shot something else may be appropriate.
And what state are you hunting these elk in with a 223/5.56 SBRs? What is the minimum legal ft/lbs of energy in that state to take said game?
 
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Buy it...

I have a fellow that hunts with us (works with my son). He picked up a
C A in a 7mm and has had some problems with it and their CS!

I asked my son about it and said he was really upset with them. He says it won't group. Just saying

BTW he has rifles built for him all the time and this is the first one he's had problems with! Wish I had more details but CS is what he's dealing with for over a year.
 

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Check Out Seekins Havak PH1 if you haven’t already. It’s great quality for the price point (around 2k) and she may just love the design.
Comes in 6.5PRC, .300WM and like 4-5 others.
Weighs 7 pounds...
 

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Look at the .280AI. I don't know if there is a big enough difference between the 6.5CM and 6.5PRC to make it worth while. Maybe 200fps with the same bullet. But you can jump up to a 7mm 160-180 at near the same speeds of a 6.5PRC and greatly enhance your retained downrange energy on game.