Judge Grants Bail in NM??

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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018...orist-camp-suspects-despite-pleas-sheriff-fbi


At some point Americans are going to wake up from their collective slumber and realize that they have been brainwashed to fight and bicker amongst themselves while real evil is working a plan in their midst.

11 hostages on scene
1 dead kid
1 kid, multi state BOLO that was at the camp and moved on

1 of the adults arrested is the son of an un-indicted co-conspirator in the 1993 WTC Bombing


Nah..... a long running scheme involving the trafficking of children, the subversion of America....the inclusion and or corruption of Politicians, Judges, top LE.....nah...none of that shit is going on, just as such a scheme hasn’t been going on for a very very long time..... the MSM tells me these are merely random and isolated events.
 
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From the news report this morning it isn't even bail as we normally understand it. Signature bail, all they had to do was sign a piece of paper saying they would return for the trial. No money or property put up as collateral.

My head is spinning.
 

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From the news report this morning it isn't even bail as we normally understand it. Signature bail, all they had to do was sign a piece of paper saying they would return for the trial. No money or property put up as collateral.

My head is spinning.
That is a PR bond (personal recognizance).
I thought bail was set at 20,000 which would require approximately 2000 to the bondsman.
That judge has a long history of minimal bonds for violent offenders.
It IS New Mexico after all, Sante Fe is the hippie capital of America.
 
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That is a PR bond (personal recognizance).
I thought bail was set at 20,000 which would require approximately 200 to the bondsman.
That judge has a long history of minimal bonds for violent offenders.
It IS New Mexico after all, Sante Fe is the hippie capital of America.
Yea I know what PR is, I was using the term used by the reporter.
https://definitions.uslegal.com/s/signature-bond/
$20,000 isn't any better really.

The $20,000 is what they will be fined if they do not show up, no money was put down.
https://www.abqjournal.com/1208562/...defendants-can-be-released-pending-trial.html
 
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From the news report this morning it isn't even bail as we normally understand it. Signature bail, all they had to do was sign a piece of paper saying they would return for the trial. No money or property put up as collateral.

My head is spinning.
WTF??
 
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Rope burn for two .
I don't have to say , I choose to say that I am tired of my tax dollars financing
the destruction of this Country . A return to the laws of this Country is way overdue .
 
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I’d check the judges bank account. Pretty sure someone just got paid.
Nope, it's just the left's "Bail Reform" in action. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/bail-reform-why-didn-t-judge-detain-new-mexico-compound-n900641

And the defense atty declared everyone who has a problem with their crimes racist.
Defense attorneys argued that their clients are being discriminated against because they are black Muslims. After the court hearing, defense lawyer Thomas Clark told reporters outside of the courthouse, “If these people were white and Christian, nobody would bat an eye” over their beliefs in religious healing, but since they are black and Muslim “there seems to be something nefarious, something evil.” Another defense lawyer, Kelly Alexis Golightley tells Rolling Stone that many people in living in the region are “militant with their rights to bear arms” but the suspects were being specifically targeted. Golightly adds: “Isn’t it interesting that a black, Muslim, poor group of people are brought into court.” She anticipates the defendants to be released from county jail later this week.
Shy of a dozen counts each of child abuse each, indoctrinating children to carry out terrorist attacks, all topped off with a 3 y/o kidnapped boy left dead, and they're let loose on house arrest. Liberal reform in action.
 

Wheedle

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Are you fucking kidding me. Because of the "Stinking up the Place" thread I will refrain from saying what should be dont to the judge but it shoul be in line with what should be done with the perps. Goddamn it all.

What is this 'Stinking up the place" thread? Sounds like some drama I want to read...
 

1J04

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Most know I deal with this for a living. All I can say is if this triggers you, as it should, then don't delve deeper. You'll explode. I will say this, and do your utmost to digest it, mkay. Hypothetically speaking, lets say Jimmy gets booked on 7 misdemeanor warrants for FTA (Fail to Appear). 7 of them over the course of several yrs. Has his first appearance and is released with a court date after, wait for it,

SIGNING A PROMISE TO APPEAR FORM !

Nothing else. Whammo. How ya like them apples? Makes me giggle every time.
 

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Nope, it's just the left's "Bail Reform" in action. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/bail-reform-why-didn-t-judge-detain-new-mexico-compound-n900641

And the defense atty declared everyone who has a problem with their crimes racist.


Shy of a dozen counts each of child abuse each, indoctrinating children to carry out terrorist attacks, all topped off with a 3 y/o kidnapped boy left dead, and they're let loose on house arrest. Liberal reform in action.
Jesus Christ, they are really bottom dwellers out there. The defendants too. 🤨
 
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Most know I deal with this for a living. All I can say is if this triggers you, as it should, then don't delve deeper. You'll explode. I will say this, and do your utmost to digest it, mkay. Hypothetically speaking, lets say Jimmy gets booked on 7 misdemeanor warrants for FTA (Fail to Appear). 7 of them over the course of several yrs. Has his first appearance and is released with a court date after, wait for it,

SIGNING A PROMISE TO APPEAR FORM !

Nothing else. Whammo. How ya like them apples? Makes me giggle every time.
This is not the standard apathy of the legal system . This as I see it is National Security for one and really stinks of CAIR. and their Muslim Brotherhood ties in this Country . As far as my head exploding I'll go with stroking out . This is the WTF moment of the century . Law and order died today 8/14/18 . Self preservation and common sense keep me from saying what I really want to . Good luck Brothers .
God save the Republic .
 

Nik H

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Rope burn for two .
I don't have to say , I choose to say that I am tired of my tax dollars financing
the destruction of this Country . A return to the laws of this Country is way overdue .
Buy Ammo and 5 strand hemp

Not surprised. What the judicial branch has become will accelerate the demise of our Republic.

Frank put the hammer down so I will refrain from further comment
 
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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018...phobia-decision-free-jihadi-compound-suspects


New Mexico Judge Cries Islamophobia In Decision To Free Jihadi Compound Suspects

by Tyler Durden
Wed, 08/15/2018 - 13:28
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Reactions have ranged from shock to disbelief at a New Mexico judge's decision to free five suspects operating a heavily armed camp where prosecutors allege 11 malnourished children were being trained for jihad while on the FBI's radar.

Despite authorities finding the decomposing body of a three-year-old boy who was reportedly killed in a ritual ceremony by his father - the son of a famous Imam, who claimed the seizure-stricken child would resurrect as Jesus and use his psychic powers to help the group target "corrupt institutions and people" with "violent actions," and despite a letter from one suspect to his brother inviting him to "die as a martyr," New Mexico judge Sarah Backus on Monday released five alleged Muslim extremists on a $20,000 "signature bond" (meaning they don't have to pay it) - while effectively admonishing the prosecution for Islamophobia.


A smiling Siraj Ibn Wahhaj, 40, is released on bail
Backus - who survived a petition to replace her in 2016 with a "Qualified judge," wrote that the State of New Mexico "apparently expected the court to take the individuals’ faith into account" in determining whether or not the defendants accused of operating a radical Islamic training camp pose a danger to the community, notes the Daily Caller.
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“The defendants are apparently of the Muslim faith,” read the order. “The Court was asked by the State to make a finding of dangerousness and a finding of no conditions of release could ensure the safety of the community. The State apparently expected the court to take the individuals’ faith into account in making such a determination. The Court has never been asked to take any other person’s faith into account in making a determination of dangerousness. The Court is not aware of any law that allows the Court to take a person’s faith into consideration in making a dangerousness determination.”
“The state alleges there was a big plan afoot but the state has not shown to my satisfaction by clear and convincing evidence what in fact that plan was,” Backus said Monday according to CNN. “The state wants me to make a leap and it’s a large leap and that would be to hold people in jail without bond based on — again — troubling facts but I didn’t hear any choate [sic] plan that was being alleged by the state.”
Taos County Sheriff Jerry Hogrefe said that during the initial serving of the search warrant, their tactical team came upon children holding boxes of ammo, and at least one child was armed when he was found.

While cross-examining of Hogrefe, the suspects' defense attorneys each took their chance to try and distance the suspects as far from the weapons as possible, and the connotations of violence they imply. One defense attorney suggested it's "prudent" that children learn how to use firearms safely, which Hogrefe agreed to.
The sheriff also confirmed that Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms is investigating the legalities surrounding the occupants' possession of firearms.
Another defense attorney pointed out, and Hogrefe confirmed, that the compound's occupants did not shoot at the tactical team as they raided the compound. He did say, however, that Morton was "struggling" and "resisting" while being arrested by deputies. -KOB.com
In reaction to Judge Backus's decision, New Mexico Governor Susana Martinez said she "strongly disagreed" with the outcome of the hearing, stating "Unfortunately, it highlights how extreme the New Mexico Supreme Court has been in dictating pretrial release for all kinds of dangerous criminals."
So despite the dead child found at the heavily armed Islamist compound, where one of the 11 malnourished children told authorities they would be kidnapped or killed if they didn't commit jihad at the behest of their reincarnated Jesus - Judge Backus could not be compelled to deny bail.
For her decision, Backus says she has received over 200 threats, including death threats, which resulted in the evacuation of a New Mexico courthouse on Tuesday.
Backus has received more than 200 threats, according to Barry Massey, a spokesman for New Mexico Courts. Callers have threatened physical violence against Backus, including some people who threatened to slit Backus' throat and smash her head, Massey said. People also lashed out on social media and also threatened court staff, Massey said. -CNN
Baccus has been called an "Islamic terrorist sympathizer" and a "disgusting garbage human," according to Massey.
 
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Despite Zerohedge's trolling, the court cannot and should not take religion into consideration in its decision. See the First Amendment for context there.

However, they should take the gross abuse of children including the death of one toddler into account. The prosecution would do well to not attempt to infer Islamic (or otherwise) terrorist ties without evidence, if that is what in fact they did do, but it still doesn't change the fact that a party of child abusers should not be set free on their own recognizance pending a numerous count felony trial for violent crimes against children. It's like they shot themselves in the foot by mention of religion, because a second year law student should be able to argue and get some from of bail ordered for an accused child abuser.

You can guarantee one thing though, the defense attorneys of the women will claim their obedience obligations under their religion when it comes time for that, stating they were good servants who were just following orders of their superior men and are therefore innocent.
 

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You guys are forgetting that this is just allegations. Allegations originating from the FBI. During budget time.
 
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Judges in NM are notorious for releasing on bond individuals with long criminal records only to be picked up again for the same or worse offense. Just a revolving door and DA's are constantly denied detainers and this is a perfect example of such. A very close relative relative of mine is an ADA in the 2nd Judicial District and is constantly frustrated by being denied a detainer on career criminals. Monitoring bracelets are disposable items with these perps and usually wind up in the trash within 24 hours. Crime in her district is out of control and judges bear much of the responsibility
 
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