I wonder if the people of California

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Rather than argue here, which accomplishes nothing, why not expend your energies fighting the enemy within?
I agree 100% to that statement.

I think it is really important to look at the route cause. It is not immigration or any of the other shit spun up in the press... sure immigration needs to be fixed, but that is NOT what is causing cities to fall to socialism.

The route of socialism has been spreading for years as more and more kids go through our education system.. It is a self feeding organism...

The problem is way larger than California and we import more young socialist thinking people into our society every graduating year. Imaging 20+ million in just 4 years...
 
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I agree 100% to that statement.

I think it is really important to look at the route cause. It is not immigration or any of the other shit spun up in the press... sure immigration needs to be fixed, but that is NOT what is causing cities to fall to socialism.

The route of socialism has been spreading for years as more and more kids go through our education system.. It is a self feeding organism...

The problem is way larger than California and we import more young socialist thinking people into our society every graduating year.
Look, I love ya dude. But really? Route is 66. Root is the word you're looking for.

Sorry, but Veer was unavailable at the time. Proper spelling and grammar is a pet peeve.

Goes to the heart of intrinsic intelligence and education level. No reflection on you specifically, just saying...
 

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I agree 100% to that statement.

I think it is really important to look at the route cause. It is not immigration or any of the other shit spun up in the press... sure immigration needs to be fixed, but that is NOT what is causing cities to fall to socialism.

The route of socialism has been spreading for years as more and more kids go through our education system.. It is a self feeding organism...

The problem is way larger than California and we import more young socialist thinking people into our society every graduating year.
the problem is institutional indoctrination, which started in universities, infected students and future educators, spreading down to kindergarten teachers.
worse, we have state sponsored failure factories in almost every inner city that fail to graduate over 75% of the kids forced to attend them.
the liberals in charge don't want to fix them, because each failing child will have to rely on entitlements, and thus will be convinced that voting for democrats will be the only way to keep the free stuff flowing.
 
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So a lot of blabbering by the pansy "patriots" of Cali, tell us some concrete steps you fuckers have taken to stem the tidal wave of communism,,, m,y own experience with you fucks is you are all on the payroll one way or another from the state out there.

only steps i seen so far was dorner.
 

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Look, I love ya dude. But really? Route is 66. Root is the word you're looking for.

Sorry, but Veer was unavailable at the time. Proper spelling and grammar is a pet peeve.

Goes to the heart of intrinsic intelligence and education level. No reflection on you specifically, just saying...
Gotcha, Siri is my assistant... And yes, I do have to go back and edit her via a super fast pass, more often than not leaving mistakes in. You are correct, spelling and grammar should be a higher priority. Unfortunately for me, I do not worry about it enough nor is it my strength.
 
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My understanding is that Obama foisted a large number of Somalian refugees on them. I haven't done any research to prove thats how it came about but I have accidentally visited the neighborhood and it was a 3rd world twilight zone for sure.
Have you ever been to West Virginia?
 

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So a lot of blabbering by the pansy "patriots" of Cali, tell us some concrete steps you fuckers have taken to stem the tidal wave of communism,,, m,y own experience with you fucks is you are all on the payroll one way or another from the state out there.

only steps i seen so far was dorner.
Jerry. Really, other than name calling for years on here, maybe you can share your playbook and your contribution to New Jersey. Leaving does not count. Maybe share what you are currently doing in Texas to stop the overrun in Huston and Austin so we could emulate your contribution.

I know that I work very hard to get people into our Matches, you can see the threads on here even. I work hard to get people who otherwise might be anti 2A out shooting, and arrange range days and spin-ups when I can to help change their awareness and understanding of the sport/2a. It might not be much, but its not my style just to rant and name call.

Nobody here likes the liberal elitist looking down on anyone not in their circle. But elitism has many forms... you do not have to be educated or liberal to act like an elitist.

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During the phase where you start interviewing before graduating fellowship, my wife asked me where we wanted to look. I gave her a list of 8 or so states that I would under no circumstance live in; I didn't care if they were paying $20M a year - we weren't going. California was the first name on that list and everyday, looks to be one the the absolute best life decisions that we have ever made.

Fuck that place; and Utah is fucking closed. We're (Utah residants) actually getting overtly open about them not being welcome here.
 

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That's ok. Acknowledgment is the first step. I am not immune. Fat thumbs and a fast "post" without review is my adversary. It happens. Especially with that damnable autocorrect. That is by far my largest enemy. I really hate autocorrect.
Gotcha, Siri is my assistant... And yes, I do have to go back and edit her via a super fast pass, more often than not leaving mistakes in. You are correct, spelling and grammar should be a higher priority. Unfortunately for me, I do not worry about it enough nor is it my strength.
 

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During the phase where you start interviewing before graduating fellowship, my wife asked me where we wanted to look. I gave her a list of 8 or so states that I would under no circumstance live in; I didn't care if they were paying $20M a year - we weren't going. California was the first name on that list and everyday, looks to be one the the absolute best life decisions that we have ever made.

Fuck that place; and Utah is fucking closed. We're (Utah residants) actually getting overtly open about them not being welcome here.
Most places used to be very anti-Californian. Especially after the first Jerry Brown go around (late '70's). I recall signs in Oregon just outside of CA that said: "Welcome to Oregon, now go home."

Unfortunately, due to universities and not because of CA immigration, Oregon is worse than CA. It really is. My sister lives outside of Portland. So I have a decent perspective of how it's changed since the early '70's.
Think on that. It's the education system. NOT Californians who immigrated. (Admittedly it does have an effect in places like Montana and Colorado... but still it isn't the main driver of insanity; see Colorado State University today. That isn't because of Californian immigrants).

So in closing, look at Utah universities. Even as conservative as BYU is, I have seen some awfully communist statements and social positions come out of there. You are not immune.
 
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I hate NJ as much as I hate Cali so I am doing nothing to help them, hell I hope they fall off into the atlantic when you fuckers fall off into the pacific. This is not just a 2A thing, its a communism/slave thing.

So beside organizing your fun and games while thanking your masters, what have you done?

Jerry. Really, other than name calling for years on here, maybe you can share your playbook and your contribution to New Jersey. Leaving does not count. Maybe share what you are currently doing in Texas to stop the overrun in Huston and Austin so we could emulate your contribution.

I know that I work very hard to get people into our Matches, you can see the threads on here even. I work hard to get people who otherwise might be anti 2A out shooting, and arrange range days and spin-ups when I can to help change their awareness and understanding of the sport/2a. It might not be much, but its not my style just to rant and name call.

Nobody here likes the liberal elitist looking down on anyone not in their circle. But elitism has many forms... you do not have to be educated or liberal to act like an elitist.

Jim
 
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They are an aids on our country, far surpassing a pox.

Most places used to be very anti-Californian. Especially after the first Jerry Brown go around. I recall signs in Oregon just outside of CA that said: "Welcome to Oregon, now go home."

Unfortunately, due to universities and not because of CA immigration, Oregon is worse than CA. It really is. My sister lives outside of Portland. So I have a decent perspective of how it's changed since the early '70's.
Think on that. It's the education system. NOT Californians who immigrated. (Admittedly it does have an effect in places like Montana and Colorado... but still it isn't the main driver of insanity; see Colorado State University today. That isn't because of Californian immigrants).

So in closing, look at Utah universities. Even as conservative as BYU is, I have seen some awfully communist statements and social positions come out of there. You are not immune.
 

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They are an aids on our country, far surpassing a pox.
Your "pox" is "progressivism", "commununism", "anti-constitutionalism", "anti-Americanism" and, dare I say it, "antidisestablishmentarianism". (Sorry, had to put that in there, well, just because).
Not just because one is from California. That "pox" as you put it is nation wide. It even exists in your beloved Texas. What are you doing there to fight it aside from "more ammo"? Please enlighten us so we may do the same?
 
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I hate NJ as much as I hate Cali so I am doing nothing to help them, hell I hope they fall off into the atlantic when you fuckers fall off into the pacific. This is not just a 2A thing, its a communism/slave thing.

So beside organizing your fun and games while thanking your masters, what have you done?

Funny -- You lived in NJ and your current state is on the way to blue.. Please answer my question.. I am at least doing something and answered your question.
 

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Now for the record, I am a "Wyomingite" or "Wyomingan" (heard it both ways), who has escaped CA as a native born 5th generation Californian.
 

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Well, I think you are asking about Texas, I am here for work only, will leave the day I retire. Florida and Indiana are the number 1 and 2 freedom and liberty states in the country, I will take my money there. (another state that starts with a W is also up there)

I lived in Florida almost as long as I lived in NJ, I have family in Indiana, so my advice is to leave that shithole or do what they are doing in PR right now, defend of your rights under the constitution buy any means necessary is also in the cards from my own perspective, you can do what you want but I suggest to look at PR and possibly other historic cures to communist enslavement , Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago that is your future if you stay on the current trajectory.
 
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I would also throw in the writings of Malcolm Little (X), that man is not what Hollywood,ABC,CBS or NBC would have you believe. he is an absolute freedom fighter for all.
 

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You may as well say Stalin was great because he opposed Hitler.

Don't go there.

Malcolm X would have exterminated Jews... he was closer to Farrakhan than anything freedom related. He comes across like the original Mandela wanting an ending like the current ANC.

Just don't go there.
 

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like I said read up on his life, actual first hand stuff, not the shit the early MSM did. Thats why I used his actual name.

You may as well say Stalin was great because he opposed Hitler.

Don't go there.

Malcolm X would have exterminated Jews... he was closer to Farrakhan than anything freedom related. He comes across like the original Mandela wanting an ending like the current ANC.

Just don't go there.
 
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Well, I think you are asking about Texas, I am here for work only, will leave the day I retire. Florida and Indiana are the number 1 and 2 freedom and liberty states in the country, I will take my money there. (another state that starts with a W is also up there)

I lived in Florida almost as long as I lived in NJ, I have family in Indiana, so my advice is to leave that shithole or do what they are doing in PR right now, defend of your rights under the constitution buy any means necessary is also in the cards from my own perspective, you can do what you want but I suggest to look at PR and possibly other historic cures to communist enslavement , Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago that is your future if you stay on the current trajectory.
Thanks for the explanation. Hum and " Frankenstein weapons" Weird you seem so bothered by positional shooters..

At least I am doing something, you criticizing part of what I am doing is more than pale.. You might not see the progression from an near socialist programer or the like, who is has voted for gun control; change attitudes after experiencing a range day and eventually his first match. But I do and his friends will too. Maybe it is to little to late, but at least my contribution is not just rhetoric on a keyboard or turning tail and running.

All that said, it does appear that you have not done much other than apparently being a hypocrite and moving.
 
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Well I wouldn't call it Hypocrite, the military moved me, then my industry moves me, my next home will be my home of choice. And that is where I will make my stand , against infection from your disastrous state.
 

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You asked for suggestions on what to do, really look at PR, Look to other historic cures of despotism. Korean war prelude in Korea is a great example on what needs doing.
 

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Holy fuck the spergery here has almost reached 5th dimensional autistic!

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like I said read up on his life, actual first hand stuff, not the shit the early MSM did. Thats why I used his actual name.
I am completely aware. We just don't, possibly, see this the same.

Malcolm X vs MLK.
Du Bois vs Booker T Washington (or even Frederick Douglass).
Same shit, different name.
At least DuBois had the balls to go back to Africa.
 

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MLK only works when you are changing honest good peoples minds, not evil progressives that want top enslave you.
 

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MLK only works when you are changing honest good peoples minds, not evil progressives that want top enslave you.
MLK started with ideals to emulate. What's forgotten is toward the end he was very much of communist ideals. I am not saying he was a communist per se, just that the pressure of the movement, power, human weakness (sexual depravity amongst others) and other influences had driven him in that direction.
 

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i see your from highland, i graduated from griffith, originally from roseland, the southside.
had family all over dalton, riverside, calumet city, heguish.
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Yeah, I stay around for family. I need to buy a ranch somewhere that I can make a range of my own. It’s hard to shoot any moderately long distance here. Either have to know people with private ranges or travel hrs. to somewhere public you can 😕. Any recommendations?
 

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i see your from highland, i graduated from griffith, originally from roseland, the southside.
had family all over dalton, riverside, calumet city, heguish.
glad to be gone
Yeah, I stay around for family. I need to buy a ranch somewhere that I can make a range of my own. It’s hard to shoot any moderately long distance here. Either have to know people with private ranges or travel hrs. to somewhere public you can 😕. Any recommendations?
 

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Yeah, I stay around for family. I need to buy a ranch somewhere that I can make a range of my own. It’s hard to shoot any moderately long distance here. Either have to know people with private ranges or travel hrs. to somewhere public you can 😕. Any recommendations?
Where are you?

PM me.

I will say it is worth driving to some of our ranges. I belong to several private or semi-private. We do new shooter spin ups, monthly PRS matches and are putting field UKD a team match in November. Central CA..

We have a shit ton of BLM as does Nevada..
 
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I was outside earlier and heard a loud scraping sound, looked down the road and a truck dropped its camper off the hitch. Around here with a camper on the back of a truck, it's typically a tourist, many of which I despise because of their behavior. I looked and saw Wyoming plates though, and said "Well shit, guess I better go help." Dead serious, I wouldn't have if they had Cali or Colorado plates (and it wasn't an easily recognizable HOG brother in a Tuareg). If I see someone driving like a jackass here, it's an even money bet they have California or Colorado plates on their car. Neither have any respect for safety of their fellow drivers on the road, and even less regard for pedestrians.

Quite frankly, they can leave their money and kindly get the fuck out of the state.

The only ones giving Californians a bad name are Californians. Stop bringing the shit storm on yourselves and we'll quit wishing apocalypses on you.
 

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I was outside earlier and heard a loud scraping sound, looked down the road and a truck dropped its camper off the hitch. Around here with a camper on the back of a truck, it's typically a tourist, many of which I despise because of their behavior. I looked and saw Wyoming plates though, and said "Well shit, guess I better go help." Dead serious, I wouldn't have if they had Cali or Colorado plates (and it wasn't an easily recognizable HOG brother in a Tuareg). If I see someone driving like a jackass here, it's an even money bet they have California or Colorado plates on their car. Neither have any respect for safety of their fellow drivers on the road, and even less regard for pedestrians.

Quite frankly, they can leave their money and kindly get the fuck out of the state.

The only ones giving Californians a bad name are Californians. Stop bringing the shit storm on yourselves and we'll quit wishing apocalypses on you.
As a resident of Colorado I feel exactly the same way about out of state drivers. Except the Wyoming drivers around here suck. Usually driving in the 'passing' lane at or below the speed limit even though we have a law prohibiting 'passing' lane use unless actively passing. Nothing worse getting stuck behind some tourist sight seeing buffalo on a two lane mountain road while everyone else is just trying to get to their destination. So, based on your and my observations, it's the tourists that suck.
 

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Hmmmm...I keep seeing "Californians are a disease, and they're spreading to other States".

Now think about that a second...what does that say about the state of your own State's population's health, awareness and patriotism? If it's spreading, then the issue isn't just the disease, it's that the host is sick/weak, and doesn't even know it.

Just saying...
 
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In herein lies the fact, that if WE keep pointing fingers at each other, the .gov WINS! This is what they want us to do to ourselves, "divide and conquer", as they sit in the cheap seats and watch. I'm a hell of a lot more "racist" now then I have ever been in my entire life, but now I look at people a lot differently than I did, even as a kid in the 60's. Really sucks! Mac
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