I wonder if the people of California

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Walls are not the solution to the problem.
Bullets are much cheaper and other more interesting things are less messy.
Just get rid of the communist cancer right at it's roots once and for all and then stay vigilant about rooting out any new attempt for the poison to grow again.
 
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@theLBC you just have to accept the fact that most of the country wants your state to fall into the ocean. No one will miss your nice weather. No amount of memes or trivializing of gun laws will change anyones mind.

Its nothing personal, you might be a great guy but the stigma of CA is too strong. I get it too. I'm from IL and it doesn't matter how much I hate my states politics or capitol city (it ain't really Springfield..) when I meet people from other states I automatically get the "oh, you're one of those people" when they find out where I'm from.
 

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@theLBC you just have to accept the fact that most of the country wants your state to fall into the ocean. No one will miss your nice weather. No amount of memes or trivializing of gun laws will change anyones mind.

Its nothing personal, you might be a great guy but the stigma of CA is too strong. I get it too. I'm from IL and it doesn't matter how much I hate my states politics or capitol city (it ain't really Springfield..) when I meet people from other states I automatically get the "oh, you're one of those people" when they find out where I'm from.
right. i'm not taking it personal.
i just think it is funny that even in a forum for "smart" gun enthusiasts, you can see the monkey mindset of follow the ignorant leader.
somebody bashes california and the monkeys jump on, while they eat food grown in california and type insults on a computer or cellphone that would not exist if not for technologies developed here.
just like Omar, who hates america despite everything it has given to her.
 
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That's admirable. I'm truly interested in what the gun owners of CA are doing to hold the flag, and win back some of their rights? How is it going?
not too good.
many people you would think are patriots are fleeing to idaho, texas, arizona and elsewhere, leaving a vacuum for illegals to fill.
all we can do is support the groups and individuals filing lawsuits on our behalf. as trump makes progress in removing libtard judges from the courts and replacing them with jurists that respect the constitution, i am hoping we can make some progress.
 
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right. i'm not taking it personal.
i just think it is funny that even in a forum for "smart" gun enthusiasts, you can see the monkey mindset of follow the ignorant leader.
somebody bashes california and the monkeys jump on, while they eat food grown in california and type insults on a computer or cellphone that would not exist if not for technologies developed here.
just like Omar, who hates america despite everything it has given to her.
Hey man, I love almonds and eat handfuls of them daily, but other than that you guys overestimate how much we need your exports. And for every one useful thing CA gives us it sends a truckload of retarded ideology and a bunch of refugees that vote their new state into the ground.
 

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Hey man, I love almonds and eat handfuls of them daily, but other than that you guys overestimate how much we need your exports. And for every one useful thing CA gives us it sends a truckload of retarded ideology and a bunch of refugees that vote their new state into the ground.
well, i suppose it is easy to blame me =/
i don't think it is that simple, and i don't think it is just coming from here.
who is going to the movies and paying $15 to watch the crap hollywood pushes? it ain't just in california.
 

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I dont think anyone is blaming you.

And you are right, it aint just there. Chicago, and pretty much that entire north east coast can burn. Imagine a world where the 9/11 attacks would have hit congress and the senate instead of the twin towers, and the pentagon, and flight 97 into a field.....bin laden might have accidently saved america.

one thing is for sure, there are a whole lot of people sick of the cancer eating our society. The large metro areas play a large part in that, and many of those are in cali. I feel bad for the good people in california, but i wonder how the hell it got this way. Too many inches given. Sadly, i think the only solution is going to be ugly AF.
 

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I dont think anyone is blaming you.

And you are right, it aint just there. Chicago, and pretty much that entire north east coast can burn. Imagine a world where the 9/11 attacks would have hit congress and the senate instead of the twin towers, and the pentagon, and flight 97 into a field.....bin laden might have accidently saved america.

one thing is for sure, there are a whole lot of people sick of the cancer eating our society. The large metro areas play a large part in that, and many of those are in cali. I feel bad for the good people in california, but i wonder how the hell it got this way. Too many inches given. Sadly, i think the only solution is going to be ugly AF.
i think even here, the tide is starting to turn because the left has gone too far.
the current generation of high school aged kids are way smarter than the one before.
they are becoming more traditional and conservative, after having the liberal educational establishment pushing their far left agenda at them (lgbt indoctrination and similar efforts).
the kids recognize they are not being asked to accept it, they are being forced to participate actively, and it is off putting to the kids.

as for a final solution, or what breaks?

WWG1WGA
 

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I cannot speak for anyone but myself and I do not hate them I pray they wake up , make better choices for them self and the country and leave me alone I dislike a lot of the pro socialist sediments I see on tv and read about in the news but not hate them . I do not even hate the anti gun / revoke the second amendment people , I neither follow there beliefs or support them I like guns have a healthy respect for the law and support law enforcement . I do not believe in new gun laws and would rather them enforce the laws they already have . fix imargration and get the illegals out as well as the undocumented congress and the senate should be forced to stay working with only a 10 min water break till they fix this countries problems rather than just collecting a pay check and taking another 6 month vacation on the taxpayers back . hell a lot of them hardly ever show up to work .
 
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I live in NW Indiana and yes, Chicago is a turd. No need to go there. It’s a crooked, expensive, illegal harboring, corrupted POS. There are a few nice things there but....can live w/o them. Oh yeah, forgot about the absurd crime and gun laws there.
i see your from highland, i graduated from griffith, originally from roseland, the southside.
had family all over dalton, riverside, calumet city, heguish.
glad to be gone
 

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That’s because, since they’ve destroyed California and New York, all the idiots are moving to Texas and Florida, so they can destroy those states too.
Yea they need to go back, they r ruining my great state!
 

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Yea they need to go back, they r ruining my great state!
I’m in Louisiana, but I’m literally walking distance from Texas, and yes, I see what’s going on over there. Austin has been lost for a long time. Dallas and Houston are now lost. The SW part of the state is like the Wild West. The small town in Texas are adopting codes that rival California. I give Texas 10 more years, then it will be blue as fuck. Once that happens, we will never see another Republican President.
 

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I hear/see complaints that more of US should be looking out for THEM and THIER reasoning is that it's coming for all of US. Now I fully understand that view point but I need a REASON to come to YOUR aid. i.e. raise some arms and make a stink. Inspire ME to come to YOUR aid.
 
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^^^^Nope, I see a mag release on that one. Unconstitutionally illegal in commie retard land, but the weather is nice for your boot and window licking pleasure.
That's a legal fully-semi-automatic "featureless" rifle. They are allowed to have a mag release. But they can't have:

Adjustable stock
Rear or forward Pistol grip
Flash hider

I used to have a Hera CQR stock like the one you commented on.
 

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That's admirable. I'm truly interested in what the gun owners of CA are doing to hold the flag, and win back some of their rights? How is it going?
Who knows what gun owners in my state are going to do. We vote generally the same, but there's massive voter fraud going on here with vote harvesting and late counting, etc.

Your same question can be directed at TX and other 'Murica states which are being fucked at the same rate CA was. CA, NY, and Illinois are the end state to what has been happening in TX, AZ, NV, etc for a while now.
 
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Who knows what gun owners in my state are going to do. We vote generally the same, but there's massive voter fraud going on here with vote harvesting and late counting, etc.

Your same question can be directed at TX and other 'Murica states which are being fucked at the same rate CA was. CA, NY, and Illinois are the end state to what has been happening in TX, AZ, NV, etc for a while now.
Yes, the battle for our 2nd Amendment rights is being fought to a large degree at the state level, and as more states become urbanized/liberal, those rights will continue erode.

What state are you in?
 

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what state sucks up the most federal resources? So yeah Cali can go fuck itself.
You can hate California and Californians all you want that’s yours right. But man how different is you twisted facts and hatred than AOC and Anitfa? Or maybe it just that you you need need a math class.

Yes it is true California uses more federal money than other states but it also pays more than the others. As far as the money goes, that’s exactly why California can influence so much out side their state.

California is second in gun ownership only to Texas, has tons of country, people still making a living in a horse to people defending our country.. why hate on them?
 
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I’m in Louisiana, but I’m literally walking distance from Texas, and yes, I see what’s going on over there. Austin has been lost for a long time. Dallas and Houston are now lost. The SW part of the state is like the Wild West. The small town in Texas are adopting codes that rival California. I give Texas 10 more years, then it will be blue as fuck. Once that happens, we will never see another Republican President.
Yea all those cities are lost, I live in a small town (less than 1500) we don’t have those issues here. But the larger towns r adopting some shady stuff. The elected officials are killing us on property taxes. Time to start voting them out, our property valuations are insane... if we make it 10 years before we r blue I’ll be surprised, I might join you in LA or go to OK.
 
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Know how much they are hated by their unwilling countrymen?
To answer your question, yes, the left know you hate them. The other people here know you hate them. Unfortunately the left here has a plan to turn your state blue. Your HATE for the people here won't stop it. Welcome to Huston CA.

That's admirable. I'm truly interested in what the gun owners of CA are doing to hold the flag, and win back some of their rights? How is it going?
To name a few:
Duncan v becerra ( high cap magazine ban) a temporary win for our side. Case has been appealed. If we loose this one the expect the capacity ban to come to your state.

Peruta v San Diego CCW good cause case: originally a win at the 9th but a loss on enbac ruling. Even though it was a loss the Sherrif where i live is issuing now.

Rhode v becerra ammo sales restrictions. The court battle has just started. Too early to tell. Again if we loose this one expect ammo restrictions to come to your state.

This isn't all the litigation going on but it will give you an idea. Ca Gun owners trying. Its an up hill battle with a corrupt legislature and corrupt judges.
 

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Yea, let’s see how that works out for you now that you can’t write off those state taxes. You’re fucked. The rest of us have been subsidizing your welfare state...no more.
This is inherently inaccurate. The information is readily available to look up. California actually sends more in tax money to the feds than it receives back. So, actually, California is likely subsidizing YOU. To a small extent anyway.
 

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Yea, let’s see how that works out for you now that you can’t write off those state taxes. You’re fucked. The rest of us have been subsidizing your welfare state...no more.
For what it is worth I pay more taxes (6 figures) than the mean income... oh and what State are you from? Lets see the Matrix.. ALL TAXES PAID OUT by $$ and all services by $$ received by State. Just raw net $$ not adjusted. BTW I posted the full state by State matrix last year.. People might have their eyes opened by understanding the numbers. So that old argument, make you well ..

Per capita, California ranks 44th.
It does not matter.. the point is there are as many good guys in CA as the state population in some other states -- Let's take my house in Wyoming.. population under 600K that is about the size of San Jose. I bet you could find more people that that, that are also salt of the earth on and supporting Camp Pendleton, Roberts, Hunter Liggett, NAS Fallon..... etc..

You guys are shitting on a lot of good people.. a lot of people who have fought for this country... a lot of good Americans

Ya, I get it hate on the liberals and the fucks that spread hate.. and parts of California have that in spades..

Sure we have fucked up shit and too much.. but shit, at least use solid information and target the hate
 

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Hey folks, the easiest way to defeat an enemy is to divide and conquer. Make the enemy split up his forces then defeat the enemy in smaller bites as you concentrate your forces. From Genghis Khan to Napoleon and beyond.

So this bickering about F the people in CA who are like minded as you is self defeating. WE should be combining forces wherever and whenever to defeat the common enemy. Stop arguing amongst ourselves to somehow signal greater virtues just because you live in XYZ.

The disease that exists in CA, NY, NJ, IL, CN, CO, OR, WA, VA, VT, WI and etc, is metastasizing and coming to a state near you. If you live somewhere where you think you are insulated from this madness, you are just delusional and fooling yourself.

Fight this shit wherever it exists.

As Abe Lincoln said: "A house divided cannot stand". Or better yet, good ol' Ben Franklin: (paraphrased) "If we do not hang together, we shall surely hang separately."...
 
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Yea, let’s see how that works out for you now that you can’t write off those state taxes. You’re fucked. The rest of us have been subsidizing your welfare state...no more.
you have been paying my taxes? hahaha, let's see your return.

while i do pay tens of thousands of dollars in federal income tax, at least my effective rate went down 3% last year.
this helped me pay off my daughters tuition for college.
i don't have millions of dollars in property and have not benefited unfairly from being able to write of property taxes in the past.
the losers are rich fucks like nancy pelosi that have multiple million dollar properties.
 

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Pretty much the response I expected.

You pay taxes that allows your state to shit on the "good people."
So you are saying that if you have as many good people or more in california as in your backyard we (the like minded) are just as bad, because of where we have lived for generations?

We host PRS matches at our club in California, I shoot out of state matches as well and I have never seen the kind of hate towards fellow shooters like I see some of guys displaying/ typing... never.

Sad really.. you guys are turning on other good guys, not standing back to back..
 

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The disease that exists in CA, NY, NJ, IL, CN, CO, OR, WA, VA, VT, WI and etc, is metastasizing and coming to a state near you. If you live somewhere where you think you are insulated from this madness, you are just delusional and fooling yourself.
True story. I've been working in WI my whole adult life and whenever I would tell any coworkers what latest craziness IL, CA or NY was doing they respond "not my state". The last couple years its been the SJW insanity in Madison WI and the response is "I don't live there". Now all of the sudden small town teachers are encouraging little kids to be transgender and these same guys are surprised and acting like they couldn't see it coming.
 
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True story. I've been working in WI my whole adult life and whenever I would tell any coworkers what latest craziness IL, CA or NY was doing they respond "not my state". The last couple years its been the SJW insanity in Madison WI and the response is "I don't live there". Now all of the sudden small town teachers are encouraging little kids to be transgender and these same guys are surprised and acting like they couldn't see it coming.
how did minnesota become mooselimb territory?
 

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So you are saying that if you have as many good people or more in california as in your backyard we (the like minded) are a bad just because that's were we have lived for generations?

We host PRS matches at our club in California, I shoot out of state matches as well and I have never seen the kind of hate towards fellow shooters like I see some of guys displaying/ typing... never.

Sad really.. you guys are turning on other good guys, not standing back to back..

Anytime someone throws out a remark about CA sucking, a "good guy" gun owner comes along and throws back how great the weather is, how CA is the fifth largest economy and the rest of the country are ignorant hillbillies supported by CA (not literal, but you get the point). That's why many here seem less than...enamored with CA as a whole.

Rather than argue here, which accomplishes nothing, why not expend your energies fighting the enemy within?
 
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how did minnesota become mooselimb territory?
My understanding is that Obama foisted a large number of Somalian refugees on them. I haven't done any research to prove thats how it came about but I have accidentally visited the neighborhood and it was a 3rd world twilight zone for sure.
 
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On a different note did you try the Tempranillo I recommended? Polished of a bottle last night...Yummmm
I have a great deal of experience with Tempranillo. It is very good and exceptional in a Rioja (reserva or gran reserva only please).
I thought I still had a bottle in the cellar, but do not. (A few that incorporates Tempranillo as a blend though).
That said, here's one varietal to check out if you like Tempranillo.
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