Hornady 338 300 grain A-Tip

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Hornady finally posted a BC: G7 is .435 at Mach 2.25, and .411 at Mach 1.75.

I am a little disappointed in these numbers. Virtually nothing to be gained over Bergers from a BC standpoint. Options are good, but I don't see any reason to switch to the Hornady given that Bergers shoot lights out.

Anyone else planning on shooting these?
 

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Only speculation at this point but the advantage to it and all of the A Tips may prove to be consistency at long range due to the design features. Only time and bullets down range may tell.
 

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I'll give the 300 grain a tips a try, i'm a fan of the hornady 285's with H1000. With the 285's i had a velocity spread of 91.4=2804 91.6=2805 91.8=2804 92.0=2808 They were shooting tiny groups with like an sd of 5 or so when i was testing with my magneto speed. I'm a fan of the 6.5mm 135 A Tip performance on mule deer so when the 300grain 338 are out I'll def pick some up to test.
 

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Only speculation at this point but the advantage to it and all of the A Tips may prove to be consistency at long range due to the design features. Only time and bullets down range may tell.
This.

I've tested the 230 Atips down to 1050 fps, and they're the most consistent bullet I've seen at ELR distances.

The 300 grain Bergers at least need to be sorted for ELR use.

I haven't tested the 300 ATips, but will when they become available.

If you're going to race groups at 100 yards, don't bother. If they're as consistent as the 230's, they'll be well worth the premium.
 
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1:10 works for me can't get the 285g eld shoot 338 edge +p also need longer bullet than 285g
 

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1:10 works for me can't get the 285g eld shoot 338 edge +p also need longer bullet than 285g
Im shooting the 285 ELD in a 1-9 and 1-9.4 w great accuracy from the 338 LM AI.
I will order up the 300 A-Tip when it comes available.
 

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Anyone else planning on shooting these?
I've got nearly 500 Berger 300s on the bench and 40 loaded up in the range bag, so they should get me into June or July. Considering the BC of the 300 A-Tip, the larger question for me is do I want to order a new fast twist barrel and go with solids. If you just want to do ELR plinking, you can buy the Berger 300s factory loaded in Lapua brass for $83 for a box of 20 and get decent SDs. I think we've shot 8 boxes now and they have run SDs in the 8 to 12 range.
 
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I've got nearly 500 Berger 300s on the bench and 40 loaded up in the range bag, so they should get me into June or July. Considering the BC of the 300 A-Tip, the larger question for me is do I want to order a new fast twist barrel and go with solids. If you just want to do ELR plinking, you can buy the Berger 300s factory loaded in Lapua brass for $83 for a box of 20 and get decent SDs. I think we've shot 8 boxes now and they have run SDs in the 8 to 12 range.
Dude A-Tip are not solids...

The A-Tip offer an increase in B.C vs the Berger. Not a big one but still better than nothing.
Also they will be more consistent and uniform in their B.C

worth to try
 
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I think when making the 300gr A-Tip...and lightening the weight with aluminum and sliding it back....a 300gr is too short and stubby to take advantage of what the A-Tip line should be....I think they are going to have to produce a 350gr or so....and then you will see a dramatic jump in BC.
 

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Dude A-Tip are not solids...

The A-Tip offer an increase in B.C vs the Berger. Not a big one but still better than nothing.
Also they will be more consistent and uniform in their B.C

worth to try
You're going to need to read my post more carefully.

I'd thought of A Tips as possibly a successor to Berger 300s. Now, instead, I'm thinking of a new, fast twist barrel to sling solids.

See, simple.
 

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I have found the advantage with the atips is the consistency. BC means nothing if it’s not a consistent BC and these atip bullets are the most consistent bullets I’ve ever used. They all measure out and weigh virtually same.
 

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ATip, ELDm, Tac Hyb
Length 1.872, 1.740, 1.792 to 1.828
BTO (Hornady tool) 0.997, 0.937, 0.965
QL start pressure 9500, 10000, 10000. From Labradar data and peak pressures between 65 & 69 ksi. 24N41 for the ATip and ELDm. Retumbo for the Tactical Hybrid.

I agree that these bullets really are not for shooting 100 yard groups, but they seem to do it well enough. That's 5 from a 33XC.

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The forecast has high winds at dawn for the next week, so it'll be a bit before I can test them at distance. I think I'll start testing at 3000 fps, which is a little faster than that group was shot at.
 
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Length 1.872, 1.740, 1.792 to 1.828
BTO (Hornady tool) 0.997, 0.937, 0.965
QL start pressure 9500, 10000, 10000. From Labradar data and peak pressures between 65 & 69 ksi. 24N41 for the ATip and ELDm. Retumbo for the Tactical Hybrid.

I agree that these bullets really are not for shooting 100 yard groups, but they seem to do it well enough. That's 5 from a 33XC.

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The forecast has high winds at dawn for the next week, so it'll be a bit before I can test them at distance. I think I'll start testing at 3000 fps, which is a little faster than that group was shot at.
Heck with that get out there an test these thing in real world environments. High winds shouldn't scare you a bit. Look like you got the 100 yard zero. Take 20-30 rounds out there and learn something. Heck I love windy days I learn more on those days.
 

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I agree shooting in conditions is the best way to practice. I have other guns for that.

Chasing my misses all over the hillside won't tell us much about how consistent the BC is on these though.

I'll put 5 into the berm using the same poa at 2300 yards on video through a scope with a reticle while calling out the velocities to figure that out. I'll bring another gun with ammo I've already tested to compare it to because conditions can't be completely eliminated at those distances.