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THEIS

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I called ahead to schedule your complementary TSA prostate check.

Your welcome.
Hi,
No call ahead needed....ever since the explosive residue detected on my boots in Tel Aviv.....I mysteriously get preselected for additional screening.

Sincerely,
Theis

You are not already flying private?
Hi,

Not yet, as soon as I figure out this artificial intelligence algorithm I will be able to handle that.

Sincerely,
Theis
 

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Hi,
No call ahead needed....ever since the explosive residue detected on my boots in Tel Aviv.....I mysteriously get preselected for additional screening.

Sincerely,
Theis
I feel you there.

I've been told by Iraqis that I have "an Iraqi face" and I've been mistaken for the interpreter a few times. When I'm on leave with my customary facial hair, I've got a success rate of right about 100% for "random" additional security screening. The only real question is whether they'll also screen my travel companions, ask me to demonstrate my computer functions, swab all my stuff, etc.

I've never identified with George Carlin more than when going through airport security.
 

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I feel you there.

I've been told by Iraqis that I have "an Iraqi face" and I've been mistaken for the interpreter a few times. When I'm on leave with my customary facial hair, I've got a success rate of right about 100% for "random" additional security screening. The only real question is whether they'll also screen my travel companions, ask me to demonstrate my computer functions, swab all my stuff, etc.

I've never identified with George Carlin more than when going through airport security.
Maybe men find you attractive and want to touch you?

We need pics of your booth Theis!
Quit holding out.
 
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THEIS

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Hi,

So the pop-up preview booth day is over and so ends Hoplite Arms first exhibition.

I will be back at the shop Saturday to sit in peace and quiet to digest the questions, comments and responses we received during the show.

It was a great day today for us and on behalf of myself and the entire Hoplite Arms company I would like to thank some SH members for taking the time from their day to come by and visit with us.

I apologize if I forget to include anyone by name (it is not intentional):
@lowlight
@DAVETOOLEY
@Dthomas3523
@koshkin
@trophyhunter
@steve123 (I think that was you)
@TBACRAY and the rest of the TBAC crew with him
@ELR researcher
@samb300

You T&E guys... give me a little time to get things organized and we will confirm everything for the shipments.

Additions and/or changes to the T&E guys....
Frank getting a 338LM
Ray getting the 18" barrel 308 with handguard cut to only have 1 Mlok slot on bottom for bipod :)
Thomas getting the 260 just to start his torture..then transitioning to the 6GT in Sentinel.


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Theis
 
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It was a pleasure talking with you, super impressed with all the features of this rifle. Looking forward to handle David’s rifle.

super excited about our conversation about future projects. Can’t wait to get that off the ground.
 
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wish i could have made it this year! hard to do a week at SHOT then a week long bachelor party in Phoenix back to back! looking forward to what's coming though!
 

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Hi,

During Shot Show we got a few questions in regards to some of the receiver features/design; so just in case any of those same questions were wondered but not asked here I figured would be great place to put them.

Q. How loose/tight is the magazine to insert, is the magazine drop free?
A. Completely dependent on what you as the end user wants it to be. We have designed and incorporated a feature that allows you to set the magazine "tension" per say. See tension piece in picture below..
Kopis Bottom1.jpg

Q. How "close" is the breech cylinder fit into the receiver and what color is it?
A. CLOSE!!! The breech cylinder is inserted past the threads then pinned into place. And we have the Birdsong coated black for this batch.
Kopis Breech Cylinder.jpg

Q. What do the bolt lugs look like in relation to breech cylinder lugs?
A. Please see below image from my cell phone, lol.
Kopis Lugs.jpg

Q. What do the bolt internals look like? How hard is it to remove bolt internals?
A. Please see below picture of the entire fire control system and the bolt assembly/disassembly is done by hand with absolutely no tools. (Maybe some of the guys that seen it at Shot Show will provide 3rd party insight on that)
Kopis Fire Controls1.jpg

Q. Where is the bolt stop?
A. It is built in as part of the bolt guide. That little spring loaded tab at the very back/top underside of the receiver body is the auto/manual bolt stop.
Kopis Bolt Open1.jpg

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Theis
 

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Quick question
Have you tested to see if the bolt stop is strong enough to stop the bolt coming out of the receiver if for example someone opens the bolt after a hang fire, just in time for one of those huge high pressure rounds to go off?

Somewhere in the future, that might save someone a trip to the hospital, or at least make their trip a bit less expensive.
 

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Hi,

The breech cylinder is designed to collapse around the bolt lugs in case of big pressure bang; although we have not reached that number yet.

But you talking in regards to a detonation with bolt open?

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Theis
 

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Quick question
Have you tested to see if the bolt stop is strong enough to stop the bolt coming out of the receiver if for example someone opens the bolt after a hang fire, just in time for one of those huge high pressure rounds to go off?

Somewhere in the future, that might save someone a trip to the hospital, or at least make their trip a bit less expensive.
It’s designed to break away before the lugs and is replaceable. IE: if someone rips the bolt out it will break before the lugs are damaged.

So in the rare scenario above, probably 50/50 at best I’d think.
 
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W54/XM-388

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But you talking in regards to a detonation with bolt open?

Sincerely,
Theis
Yes for example if someone has a round that doesn't go off and they unlock the bolt and the round goes off as they are starting to open the bolt.
 

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I did the investigation on one such accident and witnessed one other incident. The later was a hang fire in a competition scenario. Fortunately the bolt wasn't completely open. Only about 90% open. The bolt rotated fast enough that it broke the bolt handle off. There was the imprint of the checkering from the nob on the side of the scope. It then came out clipping several fingers on the hand placed on top of the butt stock. He lost one finger and another severely damaged. The handless bolt penetrated his shoulder passing cleanly between his arm and the socket. I got to him moments after it happened. Not a pretty sight as about 1" of the bolt with the lugs showing were protruding from the front of his shoulder.
The other incident was a customer of mine. Notorious for self inflicted problems. He was closing the bolt, not rotating but closing the bolt when the round detonated. The bolt came back with the handle catching his hand between his thumb and hand. F'd his hand up bad. Fortunately I wasn't the last one to touch this particular rifle. He wanted to sue somebody. I had all the pieces including the round that detonated. To make a long story short the firing pin never touched the primer. The case, a 30-378 Wby, had 6 ejector pin marks on the case head. I'm not sure how it still held a primer. There are only two scenarios that could have set this round off. Both involve the primer backing out allowing powder to enter the primer pocket in front of the primer. Upon slamming the bolt forward, in an attempt to get the round to chamber either the powder detonated from compression or the powder compressed the anvil in the primer to the point of detonating the primer.
From those two examples I can tell you no bolt stop is going to prevent injury.
 

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I did the investigation on one such accident and witnessed one other incident. The later was a hang fire in a competition scenario. Fortunately the bolt wasn't completely open. Only about 90% open. The bolt rotated fast enough that it broke the bolt handle off. There was the imprint of the checkering from the nob on the side of the scope. It then came out clipping several fingers on the hand placed on top of the butt stock. He lost one finger and another severely damaged. The handless bolt penetrated his shoulder passing cleanly between his arm and the socket. I got to him moments after it happened. Not a pretty sight as about 1" of the bolt with the lugs showing were protruding from the front of his shoulder.
The other incident was a customer of mine. Notorious for self inflicted problems. He was closing the bolt, not rotating but closing the bolt when the round detonated. The bolt came back with the handle catching his hand between his thumb and hand. F'd his hand up bad. Fortunately I wasn't the last one to touch this particular rifle. He wanted to sue somebody. I had all the pieces including the round that detonated. To make a long story short the firing pin never touched the primer. The case, a 30-378 Wby, had 6 ejector pin marks on the case head. I'm not sure how it still held a primer. There are only two scenarios that could have set this round off. Both involve the primer backing out allowing powder to enter the primer pocket in front of the primer. Upon slamming the bolt forward, in an attempt to get the round to chamber either the powder detonated from compression or the powder compressed the anvil in the primer to the point of detonating the primer.
From those two examples I can tell you no bolt stop is going to prevent injury.
And......with that story I’m tossing my 10 cases with loose primer pockets that I was considering getting one more firing from.
 

THEIS

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Also @THEIS, you made a system so simple, there’s nothing really to talk about.

It works and doesn’t have a lot of pieces.
Hi,

THANKS!!
It really is hard to highlight the simplicity yet usefulness of the features via forum pictures and posts but being able to put hands and eyes directly on them it becomes clear just how the parts that DO move function WITH each other and the parts that do NOT move are by design and purpose to make the entire package "Simple".

Sincerely,
Theis
 

THEIS

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Hi,

Ok, for the Sentinel "holdouts" lolol.....R&D is lining out the internal chassis design specifications very soon.
This will allow us to drop barreled actions into it and go!!
In talks with Terry today on best way to get ramped up on Sentinels since from our Shot Show talks with visitors...the Sentinels are going to be like a 3:1 ratio to our full chassis.

Spending day tomorrow with Don Geraci to discuss a few things...should be interesting outcome(s) from that... :)

Sincerely,
Theis
 
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THEIS

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Will the LA’s also have a internal chassis for the Sentinel?
Hi,

We will see how small we can get the internal chassis in regards to width/height to ensure enough "stock" surrounds it but at first measurements there should not be a problem.

While we wait for R&D to finish that up; here is the DBM for the Kopis (Top) and Aspis (Bottom) that are ready for Sentinels.
4130 vacuum hardened to 45 HRC

DBM.jpg

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Theis
 

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Hi,

Ok, for the Sentinel "holdouts" lolol.....R&D is lining out the internal chassis design specifications very soon.
This will allow us to drop barreled actions into it and go!!
In talks with Terry today on best way to get ramped up on Sentinels since from our Shot Show talks with visitors...the Sentinels are going to be like a 3:1 ratio to our full chassis.

Spending day tomorrow with Don Geraci to discuss a few things...should be interesting outcome(s) from that... :)

Sincerely,
Theis
I need to warn Don about you or should that be the other way around.
 
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From those two examples I can tell you no bolt stop is going to prevent injury.
Mr. Tooley is absolutely right on the money here. Just for everybody’s safety around here, I would like to put a bit more emphasis on Mr. Tooley’s comment. No bolt stop in any rifle known to man would stop a rearwards flying bolt and prevent injury. The function of a bolt stop is not to prevent a bolt from flying rearwards when a chamber is pressurized. That is what the closed breech is for. With even regular pressure rounds we are already dealing with very high pressures. Proof loads go up to at least 5500 bar (according to C.I.P standard, depending on caliber). As you all know we’re not exactly talking about car tire pressures here, lol.

In order to eliminate lack of a user’s common sense as a factor, sure one could put a secondary breech closing system to safeguard the primary breech closing system. Maybe even put a third system to safeguard the second and so on. Think of opening several locks before you are finally able to fire the damn thing or to be able to feed the next round in. Still, I bet most likely we would hear of one user out of millions who was able to go around the safeguards just doing stuff with no care in the world and hurt him-/herself. Despite of the fact how safe guns nowadays are, a gun is always still a potential fragmentation grenade in your hands and without any common sense while using it, one is most likely to get hurt one way or the other.
 

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I did the investigation on one such accident and witnessed one other incident. The later was a hang fire in a competition scenario. Fortunately the bolt wasn't completely open. Only about 90% open. The bolt rotated fast enough that it broke the bolt handle off. There was the imprint of the checkering from the nob on the side of the scope. It then came out clipping several fingers on the hand placed on top of the butt stock. He lost one finger and another severely damaged. The handless bolt penetrated his shoulder passing cleanly between his arm and the socket. I got to him moments after it happened. Not a pretty sight as about 1" of the bolt with the lugs showing were protruding from the front of his shoulder.
The other incident was a customer of mine. Notorious for self inflicted problems. He was closing the bolt, not rotating but closing the bolt when the round detonated. The bolt came back with the handle catching his hand between his thumb and hand. F'd his hand up bad. Fortunately I wasn't the last one to touch this particular rifle. He wanted to sue somebody. I had all the pieces including the round that detonated. To make a long story short the firing pin never touched the primer. The case, a 30-378 Wby, had 6 ejector pin marks on the case head. I'm not sure how it still held a primer. There are only two scenarios that could have set this round off. Both involve the primer backing out allowing powder to enter the primer pocket in front of the primer. Upon slamming the bolt forward, in an attempt to get the round to chamber either the powder detonated from compression or the powder compressed the anvil in the primer to the point of detonating the primer.
From those two examples I can tell you no bolt stop is going to prevent injury.

What was the cause for the first incident described above? Was it preventable?
 

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What was the cause for the first incident described above? Was it preventable?
Yes it was preventable.
1. Engage brain. Bad shit will happen if you're not careful. I have seen a lot over the years.
2. Don't run excessive pressures. Nothing good comes from it. Which leads to, see #3
3. Don't use cases with extremely loose primer pockets.
4. If it doesn't chamber easily don't force it. For a lot of reasons. He slammed the bolt in an attempt to chamber the round.
 
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I’m bummed I didn’t get a chance to see this at Shot. I didn’t realize the top floor was done early. I didn’t get to the show until Thursday morning. I was really looking forward to checking out the finished product in person.