Glock 23, Sig 938, Kimber 45 Raptor

mcameron

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Get yourself a G19......friends dont let friends carry .40SW

honestly the Shield is a half decent gun if you are looking for something slimmer
 
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ArmyJerry

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looking for almost pocket carry

I have VP 9 and VP 40 and a P30SK, want something smaller than a P30SK
 

equilibrium

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Sig 365 seems to have many problems as is new. Id look at the Glock 43 or variant.

That with some 147gr +p HST's.
 

powdahound76

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My buddy had to send his sig p365 back x2 and it still has issues.

If you can stomach it, the G43 is working well for me.

Or a good revolver. I have a lot of rounds through my LCR and really like it. It is light and has a better trigger than the lightweight S&W options.
 
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Blue Sky Country

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Kimber Raptor FTW.

As the 1911 guy I always say "Go full size or go home".

If you are looking for serious concealed carry though, I would recommend a good snubby revolver in .38/.357. It is a matter of personal opinion but I never really had a fondness for mouse-size semiautos. Snubnose wheelguns, however still retain a lot of the old school tough guy detective/Stetson-wearing gangster persona with them.

 
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Veer_G

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Don't be their beta tester. Wait for things to be corrected, or pass entirely, and avoid nosebleed pricing.
 

powdahound76

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NOT the Kimber.

I love a 1911. Not so much for carry. I have 1 Kimber for sentimental value (belonged to a close friend who passed). Wouldnt trust my life to one unless you replaced a few parts.
 

Veer_G

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NOT the Kimber.

I love a 1911. Not so much for carry. I have 1 Kimber for sentimental value (belonged to a close friend who passed). Wouldnt trust my life to one unless you replaced a few parts.
Not their current stuff. I have a Gen I, all-steel. Sad that quality declined with popularity, but they chased their price point market.
 

Veer_G

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Kimber Raptor FTW.

As the 1911 guy I always say "Go full size or go home".

If you are looking for serious concealed carry though, I would recommend a good snubby revolver in .38/.357. It is a matter of personal opinion but I never really had a fondness for mouse-size semiautos. Snubnose wheelguns, however still retain a lot of the old school tough guy detective/Stetson-wearing gangster persona with them.

Thank you for that counterpoint, "Tracer Bullet."

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No, I'm not being quite complimentary here.
 

powdahound76

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Good point Veer. Pretty sure they didnt make the Raptor back then.

If I found a Gen 1 I would buy it.

Also, never handled or shot the 938.
 

Veer_G

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Good point Veer. Pretty sure they didnt make the Raptor back then.

If I found a Gen 1 I would buy it.

Also, never handled or shot the 938.
Kimber modern production = GOTM for the just-out-of-the-trailer-park community. Some of their stuff reminds me of fantasy swords. Clarence says that every time a guy dumps a Kimber and gets an SA TRP or a Dan Wesson, a bell rings.
 

powdahound76

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Or a G19 spare mag with the G26...... 😁

My 43 is easier to conceal being of smaller build. Esp in summer. Used to carry a 26 in summer and 19 in winter
 
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Nodakplowboy

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I pocket carry a Walther PPS M2 all the time. Loose cargo pants with deep pockets. PPS with shortest mag front right pocket, 2 extra mags left cargo pockets. Not a fast draw proposition by any means and will not work with your wardrobe of skinny jeans.

The method works best for me with these.

Wrangler Riggs
 

AMGtuned

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Nice work @ArmyJerry! I've fired the Xds and I think they're great. Packs plenty of wallop. Kimber looks neat, I'd like to try an EMP from Springfield. And not to forget, that's one nice looking HD
 
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Hookturnr

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I can say the XDs in our stable has been through over 5000 rounds without a hiccup. I just replaced the springs as a line item maintenance considering it is carried daily.....good choice!

As for current production kimber, I've got nearly 2000 rds. through a micro 9 raptor with no issues(true pocket sized carry) and Around 9k rounds through a crimson carry pro with no problems. To be fair, the Crimson carry has had cylindernslide springs put on it and a wilson combat mainspring housing.
 
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2ndamendfan

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I just can’t get over the whole “GRIP ZONE” thing...did they hire nerf designers or something?
AJ did get the original model and not the MOD2. I have had excellent results with XD's but mine are older without the stupid "grip zone".
 

Veer_G

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The XD's aren't gucci sidearms for sure.
The dude giving the review appears he's had a "couple" of McRibs in his day...

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That's for sure. I provided it as an example of the criticism out there.