Form 4 wait time

chutinlead

Chutin Big Lead
Minuteman
Apr 10, 2018
92
40
24
Wyoming
so I called the ATF yesterday to check on my Takedown 22.
Just found out mine was approved on Nov 18th but my gun store didn’t frickin call me. Thanks, Shoot Point Blank. Going to pick it up today and that will be the last time I set foot in their store.

Form 4 trust (single shot trust)
Purchased 12/18/18
check cashed 1/16/19
approved 11/18/19
Don't they know we sit by the phone for 12 months waiting for a phone call? That's rough man
 
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texasleftychef

Private
Belligerents
Apr 4, 2011
307
29
34
Fort Worth, Texas
I finally broke down in November and called for the first time ever. All they said was pending. Then all five in one day last week. So does calling help? Not sure but maybe? I even asked them to batch my stuff and they said they didn’t do that but it sure seems like they did since two of the cans I bought on Black Friday and dealer only received mid December.
 

chrome

Private
Belligerents
Minuteman
Aug 21, 2005
442
437
69
JAX, FL
Form 4 Suppressor - Trust (legacy trust from 2009 when the shit was still fresh)
Purchased - 2/28/19
Transferred from out of state SOT to my SOT - 3/7/19
Form 4 Filed (via Silencer Shop) - 3/15/19
Check Cashed - 4/9/2019
Approved - (TBD, will report back when I have stamp)
SOT Called Saying Tax Stamp Received and ready for pick up- 2/10/20

306 days from Check Cashed to Tax Stamp arriving at SOT.
 
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Boar Pig

Private
Hessian
Minuteman
Oct 13, 2018
24
34
18
Kansas
Form 4 Trust
Purchased 2/22/19
Stamp at Dealer 2/4/20

The one and only time I ever called to check status was on 2/3/20, the day before the dealer received the stamps. I was told it was “pending”.
 

D1gger

Private
Belligerents
Nov 12, 2017
105
36
34
Form 4 Suppressor - Trust (legacy trust from 2009 when the shit was still fresh)
Purchased - 2/28/19
Transferred from out of state SOT to my SOT - 3/7/19
Form 4 Filed (via Silencer Shop) - 3/15/19
Check Cashed - 4/9/2019
Approved - (TBD, will report back when I have stamp)
SOT Called Saying Tax Stamp Received and ready for pick up- 2/10/19

306 days from Check Cashed to Tax Stamp arriving at SOT.
you mean 2/10/20, right?
 
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spife7980

Luchador
Belligerents
Feb 10, 2017
7,484
5,256
219
Central TX
Omega 300
Form 4 trust with two parties
Check cashed 10/25
Approval received 2/10.
Paperwork completed by Silencershop.

Crazyness!
I had a good feeling when I bought mine in october. It seems we have had good fortune and got in right in between the waves of people.

Before wait times were long so no one wanted to buy, now some people are getting through in a short time so everyone is going to rush and buy and the times will go up. Or they are just trying to make up for the rush on the individuals earlier with trusts now.

Who the hell knows. I just know that I was feeling really lucky when I bought.
 

Supersubes

Snafu
Belligerents
Sep 6, 2006
4,315
2,715
219
Rural Nevada
I had a good feeling when I bought mine in october. It seems we have had good fortune and got in right in between the waves of people.

Before wait times were long so no one wanted to buy, now some people are getting through in a short time so everyone is going to rush and buy and the times will go up. Or they are just trying to make up for the rush on the individuals earlier with trusts now.

Who the hell knows. I just know that I was feeling really lucky when I bought.
It is hard to tell exactly what’s going on, but one has to imagine they’re pulling from the bottom of the pile. I can’t understand why they’d do that.


A few months back I had seven come through at one time, and they spanned a 6 month window of submission with the oldest being eight months or so. Weird.
 
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D1gger

Private
Belligerents
Nov 12, 2017
105
36
34
It is hard to tell exactly what’s going on, but one has to imagine they’re pulling from the bottom of the pile. I can’t understand why they’d do that.


A few months back I had seven come through at one time, and they spanned a 6 month window of submission with the oldest being eight months or so. Weird.
I truly believe the do this every so often so they can claim their average wait time is shorter than it really is
 

Supersubes

Snafu
Belligerents
Sep 6, 2006
4,315
2,715
219
Rural Nevada
I truly believe the do this every so often so they can claim their average wait time is shorter than it really is
I agree, but weren’t they doing that on individual submissions and not trusts? Didn’t they come out a few months ago and say they were going to stop prioritizing the simple applications?
 

NorthWesterner

Sergeant
Belligerents
Minuteman
Dec 24, 2017
469
175
49
32
Sedro Woolley, WA
I agree, but weren’t they doing that on individual submissions and not trusts? Didn’t they come out a few months ago and say they were going to stop prioritizing the simple applications?
That public statement was complete bullshit. They just said they were stopping the obvious cutting in line because people called their bluff. They are still at it to create outliers to falsely deflate wait times. Same shit, different week.
 

Greg88

Private
Minuteman
May 9, 2019
17
0
2
Check cashed 04/04/19. approved 02/05/20. (295 days if my math is right?) called and stamp not at dealer SS yet. individual trust
 

bodywerks

Gunny Sergeant
Belligerents
Jan 19, 2010
1,644
52
154
45
Tucson,Arizona
I was told 5-8 from my small town dealer.
Check cashed mid May 2018, individual. Still waiting. If it's really averaging 10 months, I should be getting the call soon.
 
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Reload10

Sergeant of the Hide
Belligerents
Minuteman
Jan 21, 2018
111
39
34
How long did it take from submission to check cashed? Submitted Jan 22 and they're not cashed yet.
 

Chrisp

Private
Minuteman
Mar 24, 2019
23
5
6
Nomad
Check cashed 4/23/19
Stamp at dealer today 2/13/19

first can... damn that’s a long wait.
 

bodywerks

Gunny Sergeant
Belligerents
Jan 19, 2010
1,644
52
154
45
Tucson,Arizona
Form 4 individual
Mailed 4/18/19
check cashed 5/29/19
and the wait begins. At least I know now that they did in fact receive my app...
Christmas in February! Got the call that my FFL transfer for my Lone peak action arrived at my dealer. Went to go pick it up and got to talking about this form 4 stamp wait time crap. A little back and forth and speculation later, I asked "so you'll call me when my stamp arrives, right? "
His eyes lit up, and he said, "wouldn't this be embarrassing. I just got a stamp in the mail today and haven't checked to see who it's for yet". Sure enough, it was for me!
8 months and 20 days from check cashed, around 10 months from the day I filled out the paperwork:
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Ej3

Private
Minuteman
Nov 17, 2019
1
0
2
Apex Micro (Innovative Arms)

Form 4 Trust with two parties
Purchased - 03/20/19
Check Cashed - 04/09/19
Approval on Tax Stamp - 02/05/20
Tax Stamp received at dealer - 02/18/20

315 days from Check Cashed to Tax Stamp arriving at my local dealer.

Paperwork completed via Silencershop. I bought my suppressor from a local Silcencershop Powered Dealer.

This is my 4th suppressor and the only one I called the ATF for a status update. I called on 01/29/20 and was told it was pending since 04/10/19 and they were averaging 10 months. And to check back in 4 weeks.
 
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buffalowinter

Rick Jones MAJ, SF (Ret)
Belligerents
Mar 17, 2014
1,389
3,444
219
102
Llano, TX
Form 4 suppressor. March 2019, to Feb 2020. This one took the longest. I had one come thru last year in 7 mos.
 

SB545

Private
Minuteman
Nov 3, 2019
39
4
12
I called on 01/29/20 and was told
it was pending since 04/10/19 and they were averaging 10 months. And to check back in 4 weeks.
So if the ATF is saying average wait is 10 months, the where does silencerco get their wait time data from?

Is it fair to assume they get the averages with all the mid stack outliers that are getting processed in 3-5 months?
 

Greg88

Private
Minuteman
May 9, 2019
17
0
2
Friend just called. his tax stamp cashed on 12/17/19, approved on 01/17/20. SShop, trust. his shop had a bad phone number, its been waiting on him. Dead Air Mask HD .22 :mad: i've been 10 months,,,,
 

ifgator

Private
Hessian
Online Training Access
Minuteman
Apr 8, 2018
58
9
12
Omega 300 and Axiom 22 rimfire
Tax stamp cashed 5-22-19
Individual through Silencershop
Form 4 pending at 276 days
Considering I'm an individual efile, doesn't it seem like I'm on the slow track?
 

mountainman308

Sergeant of the Hide
Belligerents
Jul 20, 2012
309
116
49
WV, USA
Omega 300 and Axiom 22 rimfire
Tax stamp cashed 5-22-19
Individual through Silencershop
Form 4 pending at 276 days
Considering I'm an individual efile, doesn't it seem like I'm on the slow track?
Average wait time is around 300 days, so you should be getting really close.
 

Gtscotty

Sergeant of the Hide
Belligerents
Minuteman
Jul 22, 2018
270
226
49
Individual F4 - DA Nomad
Purchased - 04/20/19
F4 submitted - 05/12/19
Check cashed - 05/23/19
Approved - 02/14/20
In hand - ?
 

Alihilly1

Private
Minuteman
Feb 5, 2020
4
3
6
Form 4 Trust
PurchaSilencer Shop
One shot Trust
Surefire SOCOM 556-RC2-DE
Form 4: mailed on 4/17/2019
Check cashed: 5/2/2019
Approved: 2/18/2020
Received Tax Stamp: 2/26/2020

Giving me hope! 5/20/19 check cash date. 1 RP.
 

Hound Dog

Private
Minuteman
Nov 17, 2018
77
92
24
Foley Al.
I just had a form 4 individual come back in roughly 6 weeks. o_O

I bought 2 Dead air's from the same dealer. My dead air Nomad 30, paper work submitted June 13, 2019 and Dead air mask, paperwork submitted Jan 9, 2020, both come back the same day. Dealer called Feb 24, 2020 to say I could come pick them up. Both form 4 individual. My dealer said he had 24 stamps show up the same day, (Feb 24, 2020) that dated from early Jan 20, to Feb 19.
 

Longshot231

Major Hide Member
Belligerents
Minuteman
Mar 8, 2018
2,061
7,331
119
I just had a form 4 individual come back in roughly 6 weeks. o_O

I bought 2 Dead air's from the same dealer. My dead air Nomad 30, paper work submitted June 13, 2019 and Dead air mask, paperwork submitted Jan 9, 2020, both come back the same day. Dealer called Feb 24, 2020 to say I could come pick them up. Both form 4 individual. My dealer said he had 24 stamps show up the same day, (Feb 24, 2020) that dated from early Jan 20, to Feb 19.
What @Hound Dog really looks like!

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Lil Casino

Online Training Member
Online Training Access
Belligerents
Minuteman
Dec 27, 2019
163
103
49
Central VA
Does anyone know if there is a trend with the approvals that are coming back so quickly. Same region, first initial of last name, certain types of favors...etc?

Asking for a friend
 
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black5.3

Sergeant
Belligerents
Jun 1, 2017
467
120
49
NC
I have a silencerco omega 9k that I submitted around 01/20/2020.. ATF cashed my check on 02/02/2020... if i could get it back in 6 weeks i would do about anything necessary lol
 

Lunchbox27

Professional whisky drinker
Belligerents
Mar 23, 2017
1,021
903
219
Mt. Airy, MD
My dealer told me yesterday that he is getting approvals back from December submitted form 4’s (Individual).

Mine was submitted in January. Let’s see if mine is back next month.
 

Mblackmon4

Just another opinion
Hessian
Belligerents
Minuteman
Sep 12, 2018
115
34
34
24
Alpine Texas
i bought a Chimera 300 late August and am still waiting
I bought a switchback 11/21/19
approved 2/21/20
picking it up on Friday 3/6/20

The gov Fucked up 5 gallon gas cans, can’t expect them to be efficient in all things.
 

dski

Private
Minuteman
Jan 14, 2020
87
21
12
Form 4 Trust
Mailed 4/24/2019
Approved: 2/14/2020
Received Tax Stamp: 2/24/2020

I did the paperwork and submitted 4 items, Apr 2019, only the one has the stamp returned so far. All paperwork mailed the same day. Go figure. Hopefully the rest shows soon!
 
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D1gger

Private
Belligerents
Nov 12, 2017
105
36
34
Ordered 3/22/19
Cashed 4/28/19
as of today-pending 10+ months
4 person trust. I was really hoping based on others experiences that it would at least be in the reviewing stage. Oh well...