Form 4 wait time

Jefe's Dope

Duke Caboom
Belligerents
Dec 20, 2017
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My form 1's have been coming back in 3-4 weeks. Just got a short barrelled shotgun approved in 3 weeks.
I'm guessing here but do you send in an existing 'legal' length shot gun serial number and once your Form 1 is received you can cut your shotgun barrel to length? And if so, does this work with rifles?
 

buffalowinter

Rick Jones MAJ, SF (Ret)
Belligerents
Mar 17, 2014
1,244
2,764
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Llano, TX
There are no drawbacks compared to buying one thru a class 3 dealer. Same rules apply, so you have to be aware of the law for transporting, resale, and disposition upon your death. All warranties are voided. You have to cut the barrel yourself or have a gunsmith with an sot 7 do the work. Or, for an ar sbr, just buy a pistol upper.
 
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jcmoore82

Private
Minuteman
Jul 31, 2019
5
0
2
Form 4 Individual
Check cash 3-21-19
Approved 11-21-19
Hopefully at dealer within a couple weeks
8 months exact for approval.
 

GySgt Smith JE

Online Training Member
Online Training Access
Belligerents
Minuteman
Oct 14, 2018
136
118
49
SilencerCo omega 300
SilencerShop single shot trust
Purchased 12/18/18
Check cashed 1/4/19
Stamp approved 11/15/19
At dealer 11/23/19
Picked up 11/25/19
 

SixFortyFive_TDB

Private
Minuteman
Mar 25, 2019
2
5
6
Sandman-K
Individual
ATF Check Cashed - 03-14-19
Received Stamp today - 11-25-19
256 Days

They really wanted to bless me for Thanksgiving, I am certain of it............
 

Cagedbuckeye614

Private
Minuteman
Oct 2, 2019
6
1
2
Trust form 4
Check cashed 11-19-18
Called today was approved 11-21-19
Waiting for dealer to call but I’m in Ohio so it should arrive fairly quick
 

GySgt Smith JE

Online Training Member
Online Training Access
Belligerents
Minuteman
Oct 14, 2018
136
118
49
that’s good to know, my suppressor was about 10 days after yours so I’m hoping I’m close!

The cool thing is I called on 11/12/19 and was still pending. So once it’s assigned to an assessor it should be approved fairly quickly.
 

whoreable

Private
Belligerents
Minuteman
May 28, 2010
104
53
34
35
x2 Single, SS KIOSK
Originally mailed and cashed May of 2018
Form 4 received (533 days later) do not pass go, do not collect $200
'return without action' October 21 2019

x2 Single Remailed November 27 2019

lets see how fucking long this disaster takes
 
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gmark

Private
Minuteman
Sep 14, 2018
9
1
6
TBAC 338 Ultra
Single Shot trust (SilencerShop)
Cashed on 4/28/2019
Disapproved 10/28/2019 - single word "Background'
NFA examiner was good (IMHO) - emailed me letter which I hadn't received in mail. [wasn't "in the system" until mid Nov (per the examiner)
All comes down to NICS.
Filed appeal

I have an active and valid concealed carry licenses/permits from 2 states. {validated by providing law enforcement identification during recent incident a couple weeks ago having called 911 on another person] What the hell NICS?
 

whoreable

Private
Belligerents
Minuteman
May 28, 2010
104
53
34
35
TBAC 338 Ultra
Single Shot trust (SilencerShop)
Cashed on 4/28/2019
Disapproved 10/28/2019 - single word "Background'
NFA examiner was good (IMHO) - emailed me letter which I hadn't received in mail. [wasn't "in the system" until mid Nov (per the examiner)
All comes down to NICS.
Filed appeal

I have an active and valid concealed carry licenses/permits from 2 states. {validated by providing law enforcement identification during recent incident a couple weeks ago having called 911 on another person] What the hell NICS?
what did the email say
 

gmark

Private
Minuteman
Sep 14, 2018
9
1
6
The email was just the letter that I had not recv'd regarding the denial/disapproval based on NICS background check. The examiner was very good at responding to my emails asking for the letter. He offered to send it after our initial conversation when I called to inquire about the Disapproval. However, even though the status was dated 10/28/2019 the letter was not "in the system" [his words] until the 3rd week of Nov. I did not push my luck since he was quite responsive, though did send a couple emails several days apart asking if the letter was available yet. I remained polite and didn't ask for anything more than the information needed to pursue the matter further. The letter contained the NTN # needed for the appeal process.
 

gmark

Private
Minuteman
Sep 14, 2018
9
1
6
I'm in a quandary about this. I'm not sure if I should wait for the appeal process (claims decision within 30 days) or re-apply. It's a messed up situation with the wait times involved. Ideally, I'd like the realization it was an erroneous background/denial and get the silencer without further ado. Yet, I'm semi-resigned to the thought I'm going to have to go full circle again. Totally sucks. Still contemplating if involving an attorney would be of any value. Don't have a lot of hope there either so not spending money unnecessarily to resolve. (yet)
 

whoreable

Private
Belligerents
Minuteman
May 28, 2010
104
53
34
35
I'm in a quandary about this. I'm not sure if I should wait for the appeal process (claims decision within 30 days) or re-apply. It's a messed up situation with the wait times involved. Ideally, I'd like the realization it was an erroneous background/denial and get the silencer without further ado. Yet, I'm semi-resigned to the thought I'm going to have to go full circle again. Totally sucks. Still contemplating if involving an attorney would be of any value. Don't have a lot of hope there either so not spending money unnecessarily to resolve. (yet)
they make it impossible to not start over. If you do have legal luck, let us know...
 

Bradu

Full Member
Belligerents
Aug 24, 2011
2,782
831
219
IL
The suppressor we purchased last year for the trust just went across the desk apparently and they said the responsible person questionnaire needed to be filled out along with the other stuff that goes along with it. It was all filled out along with fingerprints, photos and everything needed so I'm not sure why that happened? We did see there was a revision to the form in September or 2019, is that possibly part of the reason for this? This makes the 5th suppressor done the same way so I don't understand why this happened.

Edit: I guess I should check this section more often, I found the post explaining everything.
 
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Auggie18

Private
Belligerents
Sep 27, 2010
6
2
6
Louisiana
Energetic Armament- Vox S
Trust- 2 person
Bought 11-16-18
Approved 10-27-19
Shop called on 12-6-19
Picked up today 12-7-19
Me so happy now.
 
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kaskin

Private
Belligerents
Feb 18, 2014
69
13
12
MS
Trust 1 person
Bought: 11-29-18
Ck Cashed: 12-24-18
Approved: 11-27-19
Stamp Arrived: 12-07-19
 

Matman2010

Private
Minuteman
Nov 29, 2009
28
6
6
27
Kansas
Trust 1 Person
Rugged Surge and Oculus
Bought 12-31-18
Check Cashed 2-13-19 and 2-21-19
Approved ?
Call from Dealer 12/9/19
Picking up tomorrow!
 

ollie

Sergeant
Belligerents
Nov 10, 2008
532
6
22
46
Apollo Pa
Just purchased a omega 300 12-8-19. It's been almost a week and I still dont have my supressor yet. It's going to be a long wait. I was told around 7 months. Kiosk individual.
 
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hertz654

Private
Belligerents
Nov 12, 2007
101
40
34
Black Hills, SD
I'm in a quandary about this. I'm not sure if I should wait for the appeal process (claims decision within 30 days) or re-apply. It's a messed up situation with the wait times involved. Ideally, I'd like the realization it was an erroneous background/denial and get the silencer without further ado. Yet, I'm semi-resigned to the thought I'm going to have to go full circle again. Totally sucks. Still contemplating if involving an attorney would be of any value. Don't have a lot of hope there either so not spending money unnecessarily to resolve. (yet)
gmark -- not sure if you're willing to try this, but my U.S. Senators and Representative offer their services to help their constituents deal with an unresponsive Federal Govt (I live in SD); not sure how well that option might work for you depending on your locale.
 

FUNCTIONAL

Dirty Civilian
Belligerents
Feb 19, 2012
927
331
69
Charlotte, NC
Brother-in-law and I both bought suppressors on 02/15/19 and paperwork was mailed same day. His was individual and mine was trust with 2 RPs.

Lets see who wins. Although none of us are really winning with this process.
Trust 2RPs
2/21/19 cash checked
12/14/19 stamp arrived at dealer

About a month after my brother in laws individual.
 

AznTactical

Sergeant of the Hide
Belligerents
Minuteman
Feb 1, 2018
160
33
34
Wisconsin
- Thursday Sept 5th, 2019, Purchased suppressor from my local Gander
- Monday Sept 16th, 2019, Completed Form 4 paperwork for a Trust
- Friday Oct 18th, 2019, ATF officially steals my $200
- Wed Nov 6th, 2019, my Gander is closing down
- Mon Dec 9th, 2019, tax stamp approved
- Sunday Dec 15th, 2019, picked up my can from Gander

Just over 52 days in NFA jail. This is a record for me!!! My 1st can took just 5 months and my 2nd can took just over 15 months.
 
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