Form 1-EForm : 13 business days

Geno C.

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So they didn’t except my electronic signature on the 23 form. I uploaded hand signed copies yesterday. Double checked that they were saved. Got an email this morning that there were no new uploads to be found. I looked; sure as shit they weren’t there. I’ll upload again...
 

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So they didn’t except my electronic signature on the 23 form. I uploaded hand signed copies yesterday. Double checked that they were saved. Got an email this morning that there were no new uploads to be found. I looked; sure as shit they weren’t there. I’ll upload again...
Same here on my last approved Form1. Didnt accept electronic on my 23. Got email from my examiner. Printed it out, signed it, scanned it back in, uploaded it to the pending Form 1 in my efile acct then emailed the examiner back and said it was uploaded. ATF approval email 30min later..
 
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Geno C.

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I don’t know why they have the electronic signature on there if they won’t accept it. Typical govt stuff I guess
 

jinxx4ever

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just got a letter from them today telling me they are out of forms temporarily
 

jinxx4ever

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what does CLEO mean? county law enforcement officer? is that the local sheriff?
 
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CLEO Chief law enforcement officer.

It's supposed to go to the chief / head of the authority given jurisdiction where to you live. Could be City police, county sheriff. In my case it's the county sheriff as I live outside of the city.
 

loveha

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Yep, basically just hand it to the front desk clerk when you go in for your finger smudges. It's just going to get lost in some filing cabinet anyways down in a basement or back room.

If you live in a city with a PD, go to your city PD, if you live outside the city or your city is to small and shity to not have a PD then you go to the county sheriff.
 

stevieb92

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Submitted eform 1 for an SBR from Mega Arms forged lower: 10/27/2019
Received email with cover letter and copy of form 1 with SUBMITTED watermark: 11/5/2019
Will mail finger prints tomorrow 11/6/2019

Question: When do I mail the CLEO copy of the SUBMITTED form 1 to the CLEO? Before or after stamp approval?

ETA: trust with 1 RP
 

Geno C.

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Submitted eform 1 for an SBR from Mega Arms forged lower: 10/27/2019
Received email with cover letter and copy of form 1 with SUBMITTED watermark: 11/5/2019
Will mail finger prints tomorrow 11/6/2019

Question: When do I mail the CLEO copy of the SUBMITTED form 1 to the CLEO? Before or after stamp approval?

ETA: trust with 1 RP
Before
 

jinxx4ever

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i'm to the "line item" part. where it says manufacture name, if it's Form 1 Builder, is that what i print in the line? I try and it won't accept it and move on the country of origin . Help
 

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i'm to the "line item" part. where it says manufacture name, if it's Form 1 Builder, is that what i print in the line? I try and it won't accept it and move on the country of origin . Help
My F1's are on a trust, so I put the trust name as the manufacturer. For a F1 individual I would think it would be the individuals name for the manufacturer.
 

stevieb92

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This might be a dumb question, but when I mail the CLEO forms, do I also need to send a copy of the 5320-23 RP document to the CLEO?
 

jinxx4ever

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thanks for all the help on here. Finally got it filled out and the damn page to pay won't come up. In communication with someone at the ATF , but still a no go. FUCK!! Damn computers
 

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thanks for all the help on here. Finally got it filled out and the damn page to pay won't come up. In communication with someone at the ATF , but still a no go. FUCK!! Damn computers
Same thing happened to me. I was using Firefox at the time. Switched to Internet Explorer and it magically worked...
 

Lawless

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I have had my SDT titanium tubes, stainless internals and end caps for a while and need to get this stamp business done. These are meant primarily for 10.5” ARs.

I own another home in a different county and we plan to move there permanently in about a year. Can I use that address and send that sheriff the letter? I don’t want to have to switch everything later.

Also, would these tubes with stainless internals hold up to 6.5C In direct thread with no brake?
 

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Same thing happened to me. I was using Firefox at the time. Switched to Internet Explorer and it magically worked...
tried mine after i got home on a different computer, bingo!! Firefox on both computers. Weird
 

Lawless

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I have had my SDT titanium tubes, stainless internals and end caps for a while and need to get this stamp business done. These are meant primarily for 10.5” ARs.

I own another home in a different county and we plan to move there permanently in about a year. Can I use that address and send that sheriff the letter? I don’t want to have to switch everything later.

Also, would these tubes with stainless internals hold up to 6.5C In direct thread with no brake?
Think what I read is that address changes are not needed If you move, this right?
 

matleez

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Submitted 2 on Wednesday night. Both individual, sending prints today. I'm excited. I've waited too long for this.
 

Lunchbox27

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My 9mm can just got submitted on 11/18, but didn’t get my cover sheets right away like I did for my 22 can. Nothing in my forms section, either.

I’ll email tomorrow if it still hasn’t been sent. Hoping to get this before Christmas.

Update: not sure why my 22 was different ( got my cover letter right away), but it took 1 week of “research” before my status went to “submitted” and I got my email cover letter. The 10 days to submit them starts when you get that email, as that is the actual day it is listed as submitted.

Hope this helps someone else.
 
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jinxx4ever

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submitted mine on the 8th, still no word. How long do u wait before contacting them? or do they send u an email or snail mail one way or another?
 

BWdiver

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I read that you can send in a form 1 and build a suppressor once you get the paper work back, with a waaay shorter waiting period. If this is true, here is what I would like to know.
Where can you buy QUALITY parts to build one? I’ve seen the tubes and washer stuff and even a napa oil catcher. But I would like to build a really nice unit that actually is good quality. I’m sure I’m not going to get something that has a tricked out super engineered ratcheted quick release locking thing with zero poi shift. Direct thread will be just fine for my application. Thanks and good luck with your endeavors.
BW.
 

Lunchbox27

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I read that you can send in a form 1 and build a suppressor once you get the paper work back, with a waaay shorter waiting period. If this is true, here is what I would like to know.
Where can you buy QUALITY parts to build one? I’ve seen the tubes and washer stuff and even a napa oil catcher. But I would like to build a really nice unit that actually is good quality. I’m sure I’m not going to get something that has a tricked out super engineered ratcheted quick release locking thing with zero poi shift. Direct thread will be just fine for my application. Thanks and good luck with your endeavors.
BW.
Yes, wait times appear to be under 45 days, some shorter. It is a very simple process, once you understand what is needed.

https://quietbore.com is where a majority of us are getting our kits.
 

stevieb92

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A couple days ago I asked Heather @ ATF about processing times. Her reply was:

"The eForm 1 is currently taking around 5-6 weeks from the received date."
 

stevieb92

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Submitted eform 1 for an SBR from Mega Arms forged lower: 10/27/2019
Received email with cover letter and copy of form 1 with SUBMITTED watermark: 11/5/2019
Will mail finger prints tomorrow 11/6/2019

Question: When do I mail the CLEO copy of the SUBMITTED form 1 to the CLEO? Before or after stamp approval?

ETA: trust with 1 RP
My eform 1 for SBR on a trust with 1 RP was approved today.
 

jinxx4ever

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what's my next step after approval? do i need to take copies of this to the sheriff?